2022-23 Transfer portal announcements

[pk1234]

This makes it a total of 4 players in the portal for the program now. Two key players in Donarski and Kane. Two bench players in McGraw and Vick.

Feels like a full rebuild in Ames now after a disappointing season.

 

[Matthew1589]

Iowa is jam packed at that position for next season with Martin, Warnock Davis, and Marshall returning. Unless she's willing to use her COVID year, I don't see it either. Even if she did, I don't see it working. I disagree with Indiana being the only fit in the B1G. I could see Illinois benefiting from having a player like her on their roster.

Warnock is going to dental school so she won't be back. Iowa has no scholarships available right now, unless someone hits the portal which I think at least 1 will.

Lexi's recruitment was over before it started too, she committed to Iowa State as an 8th grader. I think she'll take her time this time around.

 

[BRS24]

 

[Dillon77]

I can’t see it. She started at ISU and at Iowa she’d be a sub. But she is a Midwest girl and may not want to go too far away. If she were willing to move, Duke or UNC could really use a shooting guard who plays excellent D. In the B1G only IU really looks like a good fit for her, and Moren is a player friendly coach. One out of the box idea for her would be Stanford, who desperately needs someone like her. But I don’t know if Tara takes transfers.

Well, what does Ms. Donarski want? She would've become option 1 or 1A at Iowa State next year, so it's obvious she thinks ISU has topped out and won't go further without Ms. Joens around. She's got two years, including Covid. And she's from Wisconsin. Some thoughts:

• Iowa's wings/guards all seem to have at least a covid year, so Lexi wouldn't be getting 1000+ minutes with the Hawkeyes...at least the first year.
• IU, even with losing Berger, has a lot of guards, including Parrish and Scalia, transfers from last year.
• Oklahoma is losing a number of shooters, but also have Verhulst there and ready to go.
• A team that could use another guard is just east of Indiana: Ohio State, which returns it's great forwards, but loses Mikesell.
• Don't know if Coach Tara/Stanford would take a transfer, but they've got Hannah Jump -- a darn good jump shooter -- returning. They need a PG on the Farm.
• And she'd have to be part of rotation at Notre Dame, who have Citron and are bringing in a 6'1" super shooter in Emma Risch.

Will be really interested to see where she thinks the grass is greener.

 

[pk1234]

Well, what does Ms. Donarski want? She would've become option 1 or 1A at Iowa State next year, so it's obvious she thinks ISU has topped out and won't go further without Ms. Joens around. She's got two years, including Covid. And she's from Wisconsin. Some thoughts:

• Iowa's wings/guards all seem to have at least a covid year, so Lexi wouldn't be getting 1000+ minutes with the Hawkeyes...at least the first year.
• IU, even with losing Berger, has a lot of guards, including Parrish and Scalia, transfers from last year.
• Oklahoma is losing a number of shooters, but also have Verhulst there and ready to go.
• A team that could use another guard is just east of Indiana: Ohio State, which returns it's great forwards, but loses Mikesell.
• Don't know if Coach Tara/Stanford would take a transfer, but they've got Hannah Jump -- a darn good jump shooter -- returning. They need a PG on the Farm.
• And she'd have to be part of rotation at Notre Dame, who have Citron and are bringing in a 6'1" super shooter in Emma Risch.

Will be really interested to see where she thinks the grass is greener.

Virginia Tech in some bizarro world where Kitley stays but King leaves could definitely use a wing like Donarski. I guess even if King stays Donarski could slide into the Traylor role. If Kitley and King both leave not sure they are relevant unless they get a lot more than just Donarski from the portal.

 

[bovwa10]

Virginia Tech in some bizarro world where Kitley stays but King leaves could definitely use a wing like Donarski. I guess even if King stays Donarski could slide into the Traylor role. If Kitley and King both leave not sure they are relevant unless they get a lot more than just Donarski from the portal.

Amoore could leave as well since she’s international

 

[pk1234]

Amoore could leave as well since she’s international

And she's 21 I believe. Not sure if she will be getting her degree. I know she got to campus a semester early so possibly/probably. Lot of decisions there. She's basically 2nd family with the Kitley's now. She's leaving her dog with the Kitley's over the summer. My gut has me thinking Liz and Georgia will both stay for one more, they seem like they're both really trying to grow their collegiate brand there and Liz's sister has such a tight relationship with Coach Brooks and the team. But my gut has been wrong before.

 

[DaBball]

Virginia Tech in some bizarro world where Kitley stays but King leaves could definitely use a wing like Donarski. I guess even if King stays Donarski could slide into the Traylor role. If Kitley and King both leave not sure they are relevant unless they get a lot more than just Donarski from the portal.

They’ll almost certainly put the full court press on Kiki Jefferson.

If Kitley leaves, and even if she stays, they’ll need to add some front court pieces.

 

[DEpup]

Now we really start seeing some high value assets. ...

 

[DaBball]

Really good PG. BC coach seat is rapidly warming:

 

[Ladeeeeda]

I can’t see it. She started at ISU and at Iowa she’d be a sub. But she is a Midwest girl and may not want to go too far away. If she were willing to move, Duke or UNC could really use a shooting guard who plays excellent D. In the B1G only IU really looks like a good fit for her, and Moren is a player friendly coach. One out of the box idea for her would be Stanford, who desperately needs someone like her. But I don’t know if Tara takes transfers.

Yes, please come to Duke. Just what we need!

 

[rvwsleep]

Now we really start seeing some high value assets. ...

Donarski didn't shoot the ball well at all this year. 38% fg and 31.8% from 3, while playing 35.5 minutes per game. Those are not good shooting numbers.

 

[azfan]

We actually met with someone from the Arizona athletics department. Word from there is that Adia's problem is that she doesn't manage personalities and playing time very well. She isn't personally disliked by the players, in fact she's a

I really like Adia, but when you have a weakness you need to address it. That is my main concern, that she doesn't seem able to change.

Coaching, particularly at the highest level, is becoming increasingly challenging and difficult as well as pressured by the changing landscape of college athletics.

That said, managing player personalities and playing time are at the heart of successful head coaching. This coach's inability or below average performance in this area coupled with your assessment of her inability to change certainly does mean a problem down in the Old Pueblo.

The rapid pace of change institutionally (portal, NIL, a generation of players who are entitled) is sweeping campuses well beyond the dirty t.

Think about how many times Geno has commented on, in particular the changing player. While his style is to make a point by exaggeration it's clear that even with the type of character and attitude he recruits he has trouble getting through to them at times.

 

[azfan]

After awhile, HS recruits will start to wonder about these kinds of situations. Or, at least, I think they should...With that covid year coming to an end soon, most players will have four short years to get the most out of the situation. Be your own best patient: only talk to a doctor -- coach -- who will talk back honestly and then, just as importantly, walk the talk.

I think this is an extremely important point. High school athletes have become increasingly sophisticated and perhaps equally increasingly entitled and if you recruit those kind of kids I think you're setting yourself up for a situation that at best ends up like Waltz at Louisville and at worst what appears to be happening in the Old Pueblo.

I think it's going to be increasingly difficult to sustain a program in this landscape with coaches like Waltz and to a lesser extent Barnes.

Concommitment with this is the disintegration of the Pac-12. The kitties I think will need to be open-eyed until they finally end up either in the Big 12 (or Mountain West LOL) of what type of player will respond to Barne's recruiting. That is players who want it now and perhaps even need it now giving the uncertainty of the environment in which they're trying to advance their skill set and careers.

I will say this. With all her limitations Barnes still can bring in elite athletes and while she appears to be challenged in keeping them or melding them into a multi-year team that is certainly more than what the Sun Devils have managed to do since CTT''s retirement. The dumpster fire in Tempe is multi-year and until Ray Anderson leaves may be multi-generational.

So in a glaring insight into the obvious there are programs far more challenged than Tucson.

 

[Bone Dog]

With all her limitations Barnes still can bring in elite athletes

Adia will have 3 elite recruits in Nnaji, Williams, and Cunningham. This is her chance to show she can develop them into the core of a 3/4 year team. She’ll need to bring in some transfers for the fall. But if she does so in a way that shoves those three to the bench, it will undermine her program even more.

 

[bovwa10]

I think this is an extremely important point. High school athletes have become increasingly sophisticated and perhaps equally increasingly entitled and if you recruit those kind of kids I think you're setting yourself up for a situation that at best ends up like Waltz at Louisville and at worst what appears to be happening in the Old Pueblo.

I think it's going to be increasingly difficult to sustain a program in this landscape with coaches like Waltz and to a lesser extent Barnes.

Concommitment with this is the disintegration of the Pac-12. The kitties I think will need to be open-eyed until they finally end up either in the Big 12 (or Mountain West LOL) of what type of player will respond to Barne's recruiting. That is players who want it now and perhaps even need it now giving the uncertainty of the environment in which they're trying to advance their skill set and careers.

I will say this. With all her limitations Barnes still can bring in elite athletes and while she appears to be challenged in keeping them or melding them into a multi-year team that is certainly more than what the Sun Devils have managed to do since CTT''s retirement. The dumpster fire in Tempe is multi-year and until Ray Anderson leaves may be multi-generational.

So in a glaring insight into the obvious there are programs far more challenged than Tucson.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe Walz was able to sign any 4 or 5 star recruits in the Class of 2023

 

[azfan]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe Walz was able to sign any 4 or 5 star recruits in the Class of 2023

Yep, I was looking back over at least the time that Barnes has been in the dirty t and certainly Waltz's career up to 2022 recruiting the class of 23.

While it's dangerous to extrapolate from a single data point perhaps 2023 shows the fulcrum, that is how it's going, in the present and future, to be difficult to be a coach and a recruiter like Waltz or Barnes and have any long-term future although Waltz seems to have had a pretty good run if 2023 signals the beginning of the end.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Yep, I was looking back over at least the time that Barnes has been in the dirty t and certainly Waltz's career up to 2022 recruiting the class of 23.

While it's dangerous to extrapolate from a single data point perhaps 2023 shows the fulcrum, that is how it's going, in the present and future, to be difficult to be a coach and a recruiter like Waltz or Barnes and have any long-term future although Waltz seems to have had a pretty good run if 2023 signals the beginning of the end.

Adia will probably be fine. Arizona did have quite a good year. As I said, the fellow I was meeting with said that ultimately she needs an experienced assistant to help handle the balancing of playing time.

One other factor - it applies to Arizona and other schools at various times - if you recollect or knew, Rutgers attracted a Fab 5 recruiting class after their 2007 Final Four runner-up and Imus situation. They were not largely the type of players Vivian recruited and they were not only not terribly successful, they actually caused the program to take a step back from which it never really recovered. One was gone before the season because (as Vivian said) "we are not California cool, we are blue collar workers". Another left after a season and the others never performed up to the hype.

This is analogous to Arizona - Adia has had an abundance of players that want to come and she has largely taken them. She ended up this season with, as I described above, a bunch of players that all wanted playing time and all wanted to be the hero every game. Oddly, they weren't so much selfish as just uncoordinated with each other.

This accumulation of really good players following a success (and Geno had it as well, but his worked out with the Bird, etc. class, also a Fab 5 I think) happens a lot and for every UConn there are plenty of Rutgers and Arizona stories (most being somewhere in between). Food for thought.

 

[HuskyFan1125]

Auburn loses another.

 

[BRS24]

 

[BRS24]

 

[cancontent]

Auburn loses another.

Yikes. Why does it feel like she's take a shot at someone with that reference?

 

[militarydog]

Yikes. Why does it feel like she's take a shot at someone with that reference?

Sometimes it’s better just to quietly move on

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Interesting. Wonder what she's looking for.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Surprising one:

Interesting.

 

[militarydog]

Interesting. Wonder what she's looking for.

C Kohl was originally recruited by Coach McCray-Penson at Old Dominion. When Coach McCray-Penson got the Mississippi State job, she desperately needed some size and offered Kohl. From the onset it was known Kohl would need a lot of development in her strength and quickness. Even last season she didn’t play much until she literally was the only post player on the roster. This season J Carter and D Carter returned and R Parker transferred in.
C Kohl is a great person and outstanding teammate. She has great size but needs to go to a midmajor to have an opportunity to compete. I commend her for taking the opportunity to play P5 basketball and completing her undergraduate degree so fast.

 

[erynlei4]

 

[cancontent]

Surprise? Yes and no. If anything, her personal team is pushing this similar to what happened to her former HS team mate Lattimore when she transferred from Texas.

Does it make sense? Academically, no. She can handle the academics. Playing style, maybe, because she wasn't allowed to do what she's used to doing.

Will be interesting to see where she lands.

 

[visitingcock]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe Walz was able to sign any 4 or 5 star recruits in the Class of 2023

or 3 stars or 2 stars or 1 stars. There is no Louisville recruiting class for 2023

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Surprise? Yes and no. If anything, her personal team is pushing this similar to what happened to her former HS team mate Lattimore when she transferred from Texas.

Does it make sense? Academically, no. She can handle the academics. Playing style, maybe, because she wasn't allowed to do what she's used to doing.

Will be interesting to see where she lands.

She has many options and many teams (Stanford, LSU, USC, VA Tech, Syracuse, NC State, TN) could use her.