2020 off-season transfers

[GoCardinal]

Maybe Lauren Hansen? Not sure who else is a possibility.

Hansen liked one of the tweets Pingeton made, so safe to assume she is one. Regarding the tweet Pingeton made about 30 minutes ago, I’m not sure.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Key word being "narrative" -- message boards are typically long on facile speculation and spin, but short on known facts when it comes to the motivations behind a transfer.

What?! You're kidding, right.

 

[LowkeyX]

Rueck said the door is wide open for Slocum to return if she would wish to do so. I think Arkansas is a very good fit for Slocum to maximize her skills and potentially improve her WNBA stock.

Yes she could take over Tolefree’s role last season & be a new splash sister with Ramirez. Plenty of scoring to go around in that Arkansas run & gun offense.

 

[militarydog]

I think Madison is going to stay at MSU which is big

I agree. It’s trending that direction. Honestly with the ten players they have now (which includes Hayes) Mississippi State has a great rotation of versatile players.

 

[Gate81]

ok I am taking a risk but could anything on the MD transfers have to do with the fact that it is one of the ugliest schools in creation? not ALL on Brenda?

 

[dws3665]

Well, if her twitter account is any indication, it will be UCLA, Arizona, or Arkansas as she is following coaches from those programs.

Have heard a rumor that there is an ACC school in the mix, as well. One that could use a lot of experience.

 

[southie]

Have heard a rumor that there is an ACC school in the mix, as well. One that could use a lot of experience.

My bad. I forgot to mention that she has also been following North Carolina's head coach.

 

[dws3665]

My bad. I forgot to mention that she has also been following North Carolina's head coach.

I am not doubting you at all, but the ACC school I heard the rumor about was ND. Absolutely no ability to verify the rumor - just had heard it was likely to be ND or an SEC school. *shrug*

 

[DaBball]

 

[Plebe]

Is there a single authoritative source of JUCO player rankings?

 

[southie]

I am not doubting you at all, but the ACC school I heard the rumor about was ND. Absolutely no ability to verify the rumor - just had heard it was likely to be ND or an SEC school. *shrug*

twitter following is not an absolute indicator, that's for sure. I'm sure there's more reliable information out there than what I gleaned from her twitter.

 

[Plebe]

I am not doubting you at all, but the ACC school I heard the rumor about was ND. Absolutely no ability to verify the rumor - just had heard it was likely to be ND or an SEC school. *shrug*

Don't fall for it, Destiny! She's sellin' a bill of goods!

 

[SCGamecock]

Brenda needs to be in the hall of fame of coaches who produces elite transfers annually. It’s incredible to me

If Azzi Fudd does commit there at least we know she’s not staying... yikes.

 

[SCGamecock]

Well, if her twitter account is any indication, it will be UCLA, Arizona, or Arkansas as she is following coaches from those programs.

She would be GREAT at Arkansas. I’m rooting for Neighbors.

 

[SECbbfan24]

Azzi Fudd

 

[dws3665]

She would be GREAT at Arkansas. I’m rooting for Neighbors.

He almost had her out of high school, and I think he thought he had a shot when she transferred out of MD (she visited Arkansas then). Will the third time be the charm, or will she leave him hanging x 3?

 

[southie]

She would be GREAT at Arkansas. I’m rooting for Neighbors.

 

[Checkmate 2.0]

Brenda needs to be in the hall of fame of coaches who produces elite transfers annually. It’s incredible to me

Dang I know I defend Brenda on here but seriously, why can't she keep her good players? Look at the defects from this past decade:

2011: Natasha Cloud-played as a frosh, transfers and has strong career at St. Joseph's, becomes starting PG on WNBA title team.

2015: Lexie Brown-becomes AA at Duke and WNBA player (she was an AA at Maryland)

2017: Kiara Leslie-becomes a star at NC State and first round WNBA draft pick

2017: Kiah Gillespie-becomes a star at Florida State and likely late first round/early 2nd round draft pick

2017: Destiny Slocum-NFOY, transfers and is HM AA at OSU

2017: Jenna Staiti-transfers and averages 12/6.6 per game at Georgia as a junior

2020: Shakira Austin-stud her first 2 years and transfers to 7-23 Ole Miss

2020: Taylor Mikesell-Big Ten FOY and All Big Ten, transfers after sophomore year


All but 1 are within the last 5 years, and every one of these players has been an absolute stud in college. If anyone had an All-Transfer squad, Maryland's definitely takes the cake.

Frese is a total fraud, she gets players with false promises and cannot coach at all. She has probably more assistant coach turnover than any other coach in the country. She blames the assistants for the team underachieving in the NCAA tournament. They have enough talent to make and compete in the final 4 every year, however, she has only done it once....none without Walz

 

[SECbbfan24]

Having transfers isn't always a bad thing, especially if its primarily kids on the bench who never play. Those types of transfers happen everywhere. When you have all conference starters bolting every year, to me that is a red flag.

Whats remarkable is despite their annual turnover at alarming rates, Brenda seems to haul in premier talent every recruiting class. Its just all very interesting to me.


And its a shame, I thought Maryland did a excellent job this year coaching up that roster. We saw tremendous improvement in every facet of their game before the season was canceled. Now you have two super sophomores (Mikesell and Austin) bolting. The makeup of the team next year now looks entirely different. Yes there is still a lot of talent but losing Mikesell and Austin hurts a lot. You have to wonder if Owusu or Miller transfers next the way the trend continues?

I don't think Brenda is as bad of a "coach" as people make her out to be but she is close to a failure when it comes to roster management and maintaining her players. She is usually able to absorb the losses a bit because she recruits so damn well. Imagine how good some of these teams could be if she could just keep her star players.

 

[bballnut90]

obviously it is not a myth about that Frese can not coach. Ask Lexie Brown, Slocum, etc....


Frese is a total fraud, she gets players with false promises and cannot coach at all. She has probably more assistant coach turnover than any other coach in the country. She blames the assistants for the team underachieving in the NCAA tournament. They have enough talent to make and compete in the final 4 however only has done it once....none without Walz

Lol. So much is just inaccurate with this.

First off, Frese has coached twice at the Final Four without Walz. One of those times beat Jeff's team in Louisville to get there. After Walz and her championship team left, she's still maintained great success, going to 2 final fours, 5 elite 8s and consistently developing players into excellent pros. The most recent WNBA finals had 5 players from Maryland playing.

When has she ever blamed an assistant coach for her team underachieving in recent years? And her assistants this year were in their 5th and 6th year with the program....that's not crazy turnover by any means.

Lastly, did you watch Maryland at all this year? They started out horribly and massively improved throughout the season, to the point where they were a lock for a #1 seed and a favorite to get back to the Final Four. Frese made lineup changes and the team consistently improved as the year continued and was peaking at the right time. That is coaching.

 

[turtlespeed]

Frese is a total fraud, she gets players with false promises and cannot coach at all. She has probably more assistant coach turnover than any other coach in the country. She blames the assistants for the team underachieving in the NCAA tournament. They have enough talent to make and compete in the final 4 every year, however, she has only done it once....none without Walz

You can hate her, but at least get the facts straights. Brenda’s has been to 3 final fours, 2 of them without Walz, and she has a winning record against Walz since he left. And her coaches do not leave every year. Robinson who left to go to Ole Miss was at MD for 6 years.

 

[Checkmate 2.0]

Lol. So much is just inaccurate with this.

First off, Frese has coached twice at the Final Four without Walz. One of those times beat Jeff's team in Louisville to get there. After Walz and her championship left, she's still maintained great success, going to 2 final fours, 5 elite 8s and consistently developing players into excellent pros. The most recent WNBA finals had 5 players from Maryland playing.

When has she ever blamed an assistant coach for her team underachieving in recent years? And her assistants this year were in their 5th and 6th year with the program....that's not crazy turnover by any means.

Lastly, did you watch Maryland at all this year? They started out horribly and massively improved throughout the season, to the point where they were a lock for a #1 seed and a favorite to get back to the Final Four. Frese made lineup changes and the team consistently improved as the year continued and was peaking at the right time. That is coaching.

Can you read? I said compete, it means not getting destroyed by an undermanned Notre Dame and UConn.

Compete; Definition of competitive | Dictionary.com

If she has 5 WNBA players in the finals then she should be able to be competitive in the final 4 more than once in 15+ years.

 

[Checkmate 2.0]

You can hate her, but at least get the facts straights. Brenda’s has been to 3 final fours, 2 of them without Walz, and she has a winning record against Walz since he left. And her coaches do not leave every year. Robinson who left to go to Ole Miss was at MD for 6 years.

I can see how Ole Miss was his dream school.

 

[bballnut90]

Can you read? I said compete means not getting destroyed by an undermanned Notre Dame and UConn.

If she has 5 WNBA players in the finals then she should be able to compete in the final 4.

Good job overlooking the entire post which completely dismantles your rhetoric. No follow up other than "can you read?"

Maryland lost as a 4 seed to a 36-0 Notre Dame team. No shame in that. The next year they overachieved and got back to a Final Four and were stuck facing a 35-1 UCONN team with Stewart and Co. They lost by 23, which is the exact average margin of victory for the Huskies in the Final Four during Stewart's era. Not sure what you expected them to do but there's no shame getting blown out by UCONN (or Notre Dame) during that era.

 

[Checkmate 2.0]

Good job overlooking the entire post which completely dismantles your rhetoric. No follow up other than "can you read?"

Maryland lost as a 4 seed to a 36-0 Notre Dame team. No shame in that. The next year they overachieved and got back to a Final Four and were stuck facing a 35-1 UCONN team with Stewart and Co. They lost by 23, which is the exact average margin of victory for the Huskies in the Final Four during Stewart's era. Not sure what you expected them to do but there's no shame getting blown out by UCONN (or Notre Dame) during that era.

2015 Maryland with 4 future WNBA players loses by 23 to UConn... a moral victory?
2016 Maryland with 5 future WNBA players loses by 26 to Notre Dame who is missing Natalie Archowan another key moral victory.

 

[bballnut90]

2015 Maryland with 4 future WNBA players loses by 23 to UConn... a moral victory?
2016 Maryland with 5 future WNBA players loses by 26 to Notre Dame who is missing Natalie Archowan another key moral victory.

Ah that's right. I forgot they were without the great Natalie Archowan.

 

[TerpWomenFan]

Oh yes, TAYLOR MIKESELL. Can we do Mikesell and Bibby trade?

Not that I want Bibby to leave, btw. Just that given the circumstances, the best I can hope for is that.

Actually, it was Mikesell for Benzan. Benzan was a great shooter at Harvard. This is what happens when you recruit elite players. The players on the current roster feel threaten.

 

[TerpWomenFan]

I don't think Brenda is as bad of a "coach" as people make her out to be but she is close to a failure when it comes to roster management and maintaining her players. She is usually able to absorb the losses a bit because she recruits so damn well. Imagine how good some of these teams could be if she could just keep her star players.

This is the most accurate thing I've heard so far. Most elite programs never have their best players transfer. This is a real problem with her. Her communications with retaining players is very poor. I guess she feels she can recruit her way out of problems with the transfers.

 

[MSSportsGuy]

I think there has been a little too much piling on of Brenda here. I said earlier she isn't my favorite coach in the world, largely based on her general demeanor. I suppose a couple of her teams have underachieved considering their talent some years but they have finished towards the top of their conference and the players who have stuck have turned out to be pretty good professionally.

I admit it's odd to see so many top players from her team transfer year after year. I've wondered what that was about even before the latest defections. Maybe she turns into a different person when she's the coach rather than recruiting but I would think word would be out in the recruiting world about that by now yet it hasn't stopped numerous AAs in high school from signing.

 

[DeeHusky]

considering Andrews is coming off a major knee injury. I wouldn’t blame her. We all thought copper could be a bad fit at Baylor but it seemed to workout for both parties. Kim is usually really good with PGs

I agree, Kim is great at improving draft stock over the last two years on point guards. Slocum is a good fit and in my opinion more talented starting out than both the LSU guard and Cooper