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The transfer portal is serving its purpose. Of course, the approval of so any waivers for this past season (mainly due to pandemic), as well as the blanket waiver which took effect in December, may be giving everyone the idea that immediate eligibility for 2021-22 transfers is a given; maybe it is and I have missed that policy.
 
SECbbfan24 said:
Baylor's guard play shooting wise will be much better next year IMO with Kamaria and Carr. J. Oliver may be the odd one out. Andrews has steadily gotten better as the year went on and has actually shown a lot of promise as of late.

I don't see Didi returning, maybe she does for education purposes but not sure if she would comeback. I see Moon coming back of anyone, she isn't WNBA material, but she's a great college player, plus she plans to go into a graduate program at some point in the near future.
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Agree with your thoughts. Moon never wanted to play WNBA. She's always stated that her goal was in the medical field.

I'm hearing that as of now, Moon is the only one returning. However, we all know that can change at any time.
 
southie said:
The transfer portal is serving its purpose. Of course, the approval of so any waivers for this past season (mainly due to pandemic), as well as the blanket waiver which took effect in December, may be giving everyone the idea that immediate eligibility for 2021-22 transfers is a given; maybe it is and I have missed that policy.
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Those are some sensational points:
Q1: If there is blanket waivers is a transfer portal even necessary?
Q2. Has there been a formal announcement that this blanket waiver will last beyond this COVID season and does it cover all sports?
Short answers are no and no. A longer explanation is that we may be in a waiting period until the NCAA decides what it is going to do about the broader issues of NLI legislation. Most schools and students are proceeding as if immediate eligibility for first-time transfers will be a reality going forwards across all sports. Three days ago for example the ACC lifted the conference restrictions on transfer eligibility. I don't think the NCAA can effectively put this genie back in the bottle.
 
Dillon77 said:
An article in "ND Insider" caught my eye:
"A year ago, after not logging as many minutes or scoring as many points or playing as large of a role as he hoped, Notre Dame graduate student guard/captain Nik Djogo made a business decision.

A year after playing more minutes and scoring more points and playing more of a role than he ever did in his collegiate career, Djogo made a basketball decision."

The business decision for the grad student was to stay, finish his MBA (on ND's dime) and maybe get some playing time.
He did and now that he's graduated, Djogo is looking for a place to get even more PT (he would be a sub at ND).

You see decisions being made that have variations/options: Maya Dodson getting her Stanford degree, coming to ND to get some PT and a free year in a grad program; Sidney Cook looking to attend law school for a year on the team's dime that she plays for. Stella Clark, all 5'4" of her, was Northeastern's leading scorer this year at 14.1 ppg. She's graduating from Northeastern, so now she'll play her grad year at a school that can offer a year of grad studies and perhaps offer the chance to play at a higher level (Clark, for non-Jersey fans, is the third part of the Manasquan HS power trio of Faith Masonius, Stella Clark and Dara Mabrey).

As the ACC press release allowing immediate eligibility for first-time transfers, this cha-cha is being shifted into the student's lead in many intances.

Makes me wonder if many programs are staffed to handle the comings and goings of today's collegiate basketball world
Let the (off-court) games begin, indeed.
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You made some excellent points and I believe there is truth to the fact some players are taking advantage of the education they work hard for on the court. More cynically, I believe more players are isolated from the larger university more than ever, take mostly online classes, so their connection to the program is even more than before.

As an undergraduate student at MSU in the dark ages, I routinely saw athletes from football, men's and women's basketball, and to some degree baseball around campus. I'm not saying they spent much time interacting with the other students but they had classes with various students, ate in the same cafeteria, and were seen around our small SEC campus and town sometimes not in uniform and just being "normal" students. I suspect today at MSU none of the members of those teams spend any time on campus not practicing, working out, or meeting with coaching or academic personnel. In a sense the program they take part in is more of their world than before.

I could be off base and it's just a theory but one I've tossed around. I do think students opting for more education and a higher degree is a good thing but also how the NCAA has allowed students the graduate transfer rule even if the degree is an option at that same university. There is no law school at MSU for Cooks but there have been plenty of graduate transfers who have zero intention of finishing a degree, let alone in a field that wasn't offered by their original university.

It makes keeping track of these student athletes more difficult for sure.
 
MSSportsGuy said:
I suspect it will be around 1,000 by the end of the tournament. The more I think about it the more convinced I am the portal isn't always about just coaching or wanting more playing time but more about how students view playing college basketball now.
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As I said a few weeks ago, there are ~1000 seniors who now have an extra year of eligibility and can grad transfer and get a free year on an advanced degree.
 
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SECbbfan24 said:


She honestly has potential and could be really good for someone
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Mass exodus from State. Unsurprising, but seemingly confirmatory that players were not a fan of NMP.

If Nikki manages to hold onto both Carter and Jackson, I’ll be shocked. Those are really the ones to watch. My gut says they will either stay or leave together (not necessarily to same destinations; I just expect their decisions to stay or go will be the same).
 
SECbbfan24 said:


She honestly has potential and could be really good for someone
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Miss St now down to
  • 7 underclassmen
  • Thompson (grad transfer this past year, not clear if she's coming back).
  • 3 signed players

Nonetheless, so far, they still return 4 of their top 5 scorers.
 
Sched234 said:
Mass exodus from State. Unsurprising, but seemingly confirmatory that players were not a fan of NMP.

If Nikki manages to hold onto both Carter and Jackson, I’ll be shocked. Those are really the ones to watch. My gut says they will either stay or leave together (not necessarily to same destinations; I just expect their decisions to stay or go will be the same).
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Jackson is dating a player on the men’s basketball team. Maybe that could be a factor
 
Notre Dame portal entrants:

Amirah Abdur-Rahim, 6-3 forward, Marietta, GA
Alli Campbell, 6-0 guard, Altoona, PA
Alasia Hayes, 5-7 point guard, Murfreesboro, TN

Does this say anything about Niele Ivey?
 
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Sifaka said:
Notre Dame portal entrants:

Amirah Abdur-Rahim, 6-3 forward, Marietta, GA
Alli Campbell, 6-0 guard, Altoona, PA
Alasia Hayes, 5-7 point guard, Murfreesboro, TN

Does this say anything about Niele Ivey?
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No idea but other ACC programs have freshmen leaving. VT has 2 listed in the portal per Raoul's website.

Considering how Westbeld and Miles are progressing, I thought there was some potential with this group.
 
cancontent said:
No idea but other ACC programs have freshmen leaving. VT has 2 listed in the portal per Raoul's website.

Considering how Westbeld and Miles are progressing, I thought there was some potential with this group.
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It’s hard signing a big class because most likely most of them will transfer. Baylor signed 5 in 2018 and now only 3 remain in smith,Egbo, and Bickle
 
As a Pennsylvanian, would love to see Campbell choose a PA school. Pitt would be my first choice, but Penn State is on a better trajectory and I do like Kieger.
 
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Sifaka said:
Notre Dame portal entrants:

Amirah Abdur-Rahim, 6-3 forward, Marietta, GA
Alli Campbell, 6-0 guard, Altoona, PA
Alasia Hayes, 5-7 point guard, Murfreesboro, TN

Does this say anything about Niele Ivey?
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Nah, just says that she wasn't the HC that recruited them.
 
Vowelguy said:
Nah, just says that she wasn't the HC that recruited them.
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I’m guessing she definitely recruited Campbell and possibly Hayes while she was an assisstant. Not huge losses based on their stats though.
 
DaBball said:
I’m guessing she definitely recruited Campbell and possibly Hayes while she was an assisstant. Not huge losses based on their stats though.
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That's why I said HC.
They expected to play for MM. These change-of-coach transfers are more and more common.
 
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DaBball said:
As a Pennsylvanian, would love to see Campbell choose a PA school. Pitt would be my first choice, but Penn State is on a better trajectory and I do like Kieger.
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I could see Alli playing for Penn State under Kieger. Maddie Burke, who played with Alli for the Philly Belles, has done very well at PSU and I think AC could thrive in that system, as well.
 
DaBball said:
I’m guessing she definitely recruited Campbell and possibly Hayes while she was an assisstant. Not huge losses based on their stats though.
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Vowelguy said:
That's why I said HC.
They expected to play for MM. These change-of-coach transfers are more and more common.
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Alli Campbell attended "Nielefest" when she was young and was an early commiit. She most certainly was drawn to Muffet, who took most of the visits to Pa. When MM retired, Alli gave a "I'm still in...." for now kind of comment.
I think the change from the modified Princeton offense that MM favored to the ISO's and sets that Niele uses didn't play to the same strength's that MM saw in her. ND next steps: Sonia Citron is comng next year and she's a taller version of AC, plus is very tight with Miles.

Amirah was a find by Beth Morgan Cunningham, who took over recruiting the year Niele was in the NBA. Based on that -- and the fact that Duke has a need for some players themselves -- I wouldn't be surprised to see a match there, particularly given the ACC ruling on easing transfer rules. On the other hand, Maya Dodson and Amirah went to the same HS and I was hoping there could be a mentor-type situation. Nope. ND next steps: Nat Marshall comes off the injury list to play a year with Maya Dodson, then takes over full-time in 2022.

Alasia Hayes got the message loud and clear when Olivia Miles took all of her PT upon arrival from high school. This was fait accompli when she bowed out of the season a few weeks ago. ND Next Steps: Big duh here. This is Miles ship and Ivey will rise as high or low as Miles takes her (along with that great ballast tank known as Maddy Westbeld.)

Along with Mik Vaughn going pro and Destinee Walker moving on, this clears out the roster a bit, which was congested. Not sure this is the way one wants to do it, but -- as Vowelguy says -- these kinds of coaching transfers seem to take place.
Stay tuned.
 
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Vowelguy said:
what are the odds Hayes ends up at MTSU?
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I would say it's likely she does. The family connections to the school are deep and they are from the area. Her oldest sister was asked not to come back to UT but has been gangbusters at MTSU. Not sure why one wound up at ND but the Golden Dome has some attractive features.

Hopefully all of these young women find a place where they are happy and productive.
 
DaBball said:
Jade Loville has entered to portal out of Boise State. Not a great three-point shooter, but a solid all-around player. Was ranked #72 by espnW in 2018.
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That makes me kind of sad for BSU.

Although...maybe UW can get the coaching situation squared away and Loville might want to return close to home. One can hope.
 
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