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Notre Dame can only play five at a time.
based on the officiating in this year's semi-final, I'm not too sure about that...
Notre Dame can only play five at a time.
Paradise Jam teams are UConn, North Carolina, Kentucky, Purdue, South Florida, Ole Miss, St. John's, and UCLA.
Ugh. Not a top 25 team in the bunch.
Very different expectations...I don't think anyone thinks ND is going to run the table next year while most fans predicted UCONN would run the table in 4 of the last 5 seasons (2014, 2015, 2016, 2018.)Can't wait to get some. Finally ND will learn (I mean not Muffet, she already knows), what it feels like to have a target on their backs. How it feels to have mediocre teams play out of their heads every night, every play. What it feels like to have over expectant fans criticizing close games. They should be well softened up by then.
Very different expectations...I don't think anyone thinks ND is going to run the table next year
Sometimes less is more. It will be interesting to see how ND integrates Shepard and Turner, who are both more effective in the low post than out on the floor.Why not? They lost three games this past season, two very close games to UConn and Louisville plus the blowout in Louisville. Both those teams should take a step or two back on paper while Notre Dame potentially improves significantly with the return of Turner and the possible leap to stardom of Young.
Can't wait to get some. Finally ND will learn (I mean not Muffet, she already knows), what it feels like to have a target on their backs. How it feels to have mediocre teams play out of their heads every night, every play. What it feels like to have over expectant fans criticizing close games. They should be well softened up by then.
Sometimes less is more. It will be interesting to see how ND integrates Shepard and Turner, who are both more effective in the low post than out on the floor.
As for UConn, I believe Pheesa will have a monster year as the primary low post threat for the Huskies, as she was 2 years ago. This past year, Pheesa was somewhat hamstrung as UConn tried with only partial success to develop Z as a low post threat, forcing Pheesa to find a different role in the offense.
Dillon,A few points:
- ND has a very interesting weekend, playing Iowa in the B1G/ACC Classic the Thursday before the UConn game. That will bring Megan Gustafson, Kathleen Doyle and crew to the bend. It will also be a good opportunity to see Brianna Turner and/or Mik Vaughn do some one-on-one defense.
- Jordy: While it's not quite the same as having a #1 target on the back, MM does a good job of putting the Irish into tough environments early in the schedule to get them ready for both the ACC schedule and NCAA tournament. They were out on the road in the beginning of the season a lot last year, traveling to Western Kentucky, Oregon State, Michigan and Florida to play South Carolina and others in an early tournament.
- Old Dude: McGraw Benchers have thought about the "less is more" aspect but I'm not sure we agree with the assessment that Shepard is more of a low post. In fact, she only took over at the low post because Turner was out. MM thinks of her as kind of a combo, able to play the high post like the departed Kat Westbeld and then drive to the hoop. Plus, Shepard is a superb passer, so I expect she and Bri T. to work well with each other in the lane.
My question on UConn's offense is a slightly different one than yours:
If I remember correctly, Gabby Williams had the most assists on the team last season so the ball was coming into where she was setting up and then she'd find the next link in the offense. Will UConn become more PG-centric with Dangerfield (who had the second most assists)? Or will someone else fill that portion of the offense? If so, whom? (On another note, Gabby also led the team in rebounding...quite a threat. As I've often said, she was the Husky I always feared most against ND.)

Why not? They lost three games this past season, two very close games to UConn and Louisville plus the blowout in Louisville. Both those teams should take a step or two back on paper while Notre Dame potentially improves significantly with the return of Turner and the possible leap to stardom of Young.
Really? What happened?
So she will sit out a full season and then have 1.5 years of eligibility left. Boykin is something of a WBB nomad.MORGANTOWN, W.Va. – Former McDonald's All-American forward De'Janae Boykin will join the West Virginia women's basketball team, as announced by coach Mike Carey on Wednesday.
After originally signing with UConn, Boykin comes to Morgantown from Penn State. She started 29 games for the Nittany Lions in 2017-18, averaging 7.6 rebounds per contest to lead the Nittany Lions. In addition to averaging 5.8 points per game, the Springdale, Maryland, native accrued 14 steals, 22 blocks and 48 assists on the year. She ranked fourth on the team in minutes per game at 29.4 and was third in blocked shots. The 6-foot-2 Boykin joined the Nittany Lions in the spring of 2016 and played the second half of the 2016-17 season due to NCAA transfer rules.
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"De'Janae is a player we recruited out of high school, so we're very familiar with her," Carey said. "She is a player that will have an immediate impact on our team, especially at the three and the four. We look forward to having her on our roster."
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Because UCONN has two returning All Americans and has the most talented roster in the country and the best incoming class. Mabrey is a great player but isn’t a PG and has struggled with turnovers. Who knows how effective Turner will be when she’s back, her play could disrupt rhythm found by her teammates. And Notre Dame wasn’t head and shoulders better than most teams this year. They nearly lost to Mississippi State (the no call on Mabrey/William was massive) and were down by 23 to Tennessee at one point. In all the years where UCONN was favored to go undefeated, they either had Stewart (2014-2016) or returned everyone plus Stevens and Walker from their 36-1 team in 2016-17 who lost on a buzzer beater. Notre Dame is expected to be the favorite going into next season, but they’re far from a heavy favorite. If you’re willing to bet on ND going undefeated vs not, I’ll gladly take that bet.
Who's the 6'5" pogo stick?I think they have the best shot at it. Mabrey at point didn't seem to hurt them last season. Turner should help their defense immensely if nothing else. They'll have offense galore. They were a terrific rebounding team this past year and they add a 6-5 pogo stick.
UConn had six legit players this past season. At this point you can only count on three this coming year depending on the development of underclassmen and freshmen.
I think they have the best shot at it. Mabrey at point didn't seem to hurt them last season. Turner should help their defense immensely if nothing else. They'll have offense galore. They were a terrific rebounding team this past year and they add a 6-5 pogo stick.
UConn had six legit players this past season. At this point you can only count on three this coming year depending on the development of underclassmen and freshmen.
....... if that’s who your referring to?I think they have the best shot at it. Mabrey at point didn't seem to hurt them last season. Turner should help their defense immensely if nothing else. They'll have offense galore. They were a terrific rebounding team this past year and they add a 6-5 pogo stick.
UConn had six legit players this past season. At this point you can only count on three this coming year depending on the development of underclassmen and freshmen.
Best shot is one thing, being a UCONN caliber favorite is another. Mabrey had 9 TOs in the title game. Rewatch the Louisville games. She can be stellar but she’s not a top rate PG. She’s a fantastic wing playing out of position for the betterment of her team. Offense galore is there but they were not a good defensive team last year.
Even if you only have proven results from 3 players, that’s a good number. In 2016-17 you really just had Nurse/KLS as proven commodities coming back, 2015-16 just had 4 with the Big 3 and Nurse coming back, 2014-15 had just 4 proven players returning, 2013-14 had 4 as well. Even if Walker, Ono and Williams aren’t proven, odds are at least 1-2 step up and other returners like Collier/Dangerfield will continue to improve as well.
Best shot is one thing, being a UCONN caliber favorite is another. Mabrey had 9 TOs in the title game. Rewatch the Louisville games. She can be stellar but she’s not a top rate PG. She’s a fantastic wing playing out of position for the betterment of her team. Offense galore is there but they were not a good defensive team last year. Turner is 6-3, not 6-5, and she’s coming off an ACL so who knows if she’ll be as much of a pogo stick. She also isn’t a great passer out of the post like Shepard is, so offense might not be as crisp next year. It could be better too, but it’s an unknown.
UCONN played just six but had a HS POY sitting on the bench. This year they bring in 2 top kids and will have 3 HS POY on the roster. The only other team with 1 is Baylor. Regardless of age, talent wise UCONN is the cream of the crop once again. Even if you only have proven results from 3 players, that’s a good number. In 2016-17 you really just had Nurse/KLS as proven commodities coming back, 2015-16 just had 4 with the Big 3 and Nurse coming back, 2014-15 had just 4 proven players returning, 2013-14 had 4 as well. Even if Walker, Ono and Williams aren’t proven, odds are at least 1-2 step up and other returners like Collier/Dangerfield will continue to improve as well.


Dillon,
I’ve seen Shepard play inside & out and she’s far more effective down low imo. As for replacing Gabby, I agree it will be a challenge, but as I said in another thread, I actually believe Lou is a more effective passer, and that Lou & Pheesa will wear teams out executing pick and rolls from the high post.
As for my belief that “less is more,” if any team proved my point, it was this past season’s Irish team. I’m counting on MM struggling to find an 8-9 player rotation that works.![]()
Right, but they still won and beat UConn, Mississippi State, and Oregon along the way. Young has a chance to be an all-american. Everyone else is back. Turner is back. McGraw's an excellent coach. Where's the weakness?
In an earlier post on this thread, I acknowledged that it will take awhile for ND to get some aspects of it's game together. Regarding a few of those:
- Turner is listed as 6'3", looks a bit taller depending on the hairstyle she's wearing and, indeed, had good hops and arm extension, making her seem taller.
Will she come back from the ACL? When the season starts, it will be nearly 1 1/2 years since she had the injury in the NCAAs. Reports are good. We can only see.
Mik Vaughn is also coming off an ACL and she's another tall one to match up with Turner and Shepard.
- Speaking of playing tall, Jackie Young can play inside very well for a six-footer. If she can start stroking more outside shots with confidence, it will open up the middle even more for the posts.
- Mabrey spent the summer of '17 working on her shot. She picked up the PG duties in season/on the fly. The plan is for to be the lead guard this season and she is allegedly spending the time this summer working as such. Will she morph into Lindsay Allen? Doubtful. Will she be more efficient against full-court pressure? Depends on who we're playing. Will she be better? Yup.
Given the end result of last season, it wasn't so bad.
BTW, she'll have help with the press: Jordan Nixon has a serious handle and looks pretty calm and collected when I see her.
The best part about this post is I have not had to mention the Irish leading scorer once...![]()
The Mississippi State and UCONN games were essentially ties separated by a shot from Arike.
They were only one of two teams to give UConn a game all year, and they did it twice including in Hartford. On paper, UConn should never have lost. Now Notre Dame should be a heavy favorite. I think they have a legit shot at undefeated. They've come close before (2014).
A shot is one thing, being favored to go undefeated like UCONN has in 4 of the last 5 seasons is another.

I think it was Baylor in whatever year Kim won her only championship?No doubt that UConn has spoiled us all with their numerous undefeated seasons recently. They made it look easy, but we all know it wasn't. Without looking it up, can you remember the last team besides UConn to go undefeated wire to wire and win the NC?![]()
Correct. 2012 her team went 40-0. But she also won another championship in 2005.I think it was Baylor in whatever year Kim won her only championship?