OT: #1 ND goes down in double OT

[RockyMTblue2]

I finally stopped weeping long enough to post: What an absolute shame! Think the tears are coming back.

 

[Geew1992]

Is this something that the UConn Boneyard needs to be writing about? ND has their own thousands of fans and followers and doesn't need more from the Boneyard. It should be put on the General board.

Ummm…. It’s been done with other teams. Not just ND

 

[Zarathustra]

I agree. That last call seemed like a mistake. The replay showed it to be a held ball, not a foul. I don't think it would have mattered much at that point though. NC State had owned the 2nd OT up to that point.

I wasn't sure if Hannah got both hands on the ball (early i.e. a tie up -
jump ball) or whether it was a first a "reach-in foul" with one hand
fouling the NC St. player. I did not watch it numerous times, but
since it was not reviewable... it had to be a quick decision by the
ref. LIVE ACTION is hard to "call" perfectly.

 

[HuskyNan]

Respectfully disagree…there was a lot of contact and Hildalgo took a huge chance being that aggressive.

I didn’t think the call really impacted the outcome of the game. ND wasn’t playing good team ball…way too much one on one. They need to integrate Citron (who I think is terrific) and Westbeld into the offensive better.

We can agree to disagree on the foul but what I meant by bad timing is that it was Hidalgo’s 5th foul, so she was out of the game at a crucial moment

ND’s rebounding was not good in the OTs. Not a recipe for success

 

[Zarathustra]

I agree. That last call seemed like a mistake. The replay showed it to be a held ball, not a foul. I don't think it would have mattered much at that point though. NC State had owned the 2nd OT up to that point.

But the refs don't get the advantage of a "REPLAY" in this type of
situation.... I read some alternative views in other posts on this thread about
this particular play.
My immediate impression was a "reach - in".. but I am rather biased!!!!!

 

[msf22b]

Is it not amazing that Wes can take a fairly highly rated team pre-season...
-Have a disappointing early season
-But is standing at the end with a strong, well-coached team
that no one wants in their bracket.

 

[Fastbreak]

to NC State.

Buzzer 3 at the end of regulation tied it for ND.
Will they stay at #1?

Love the way Citron plays.

NC had 2 fouls to give, they should have never allowed her to shoot that 3, she could have been fouled while she dribbled prior to the shot.

 

[The deacon]

Most all true Husky fans realize what this game means for our mental health. I watched and became a temporary fan of NC. Please tell me with a straight face that the results of the game didn't put a smile on your face or in your mind.
Thumbs up N.C. you deserve it, ND oh well..........may we meet again, it would be a great game #1?

NC State, please... there is a world of difference.

 

[Zanzman]

Is it not amazing that Wes can take a fairly highly rated team pre-season...
-Have a disappointing early season
-But is standing at the end with a strong, well-coached team
that no one wants in their bracket.

No

 

[Bone Dog]

Three games that should open some eyes in the BY. Of course, ND losing to NC St is one. But the other two are USC unable to pull away from Illinois despite getting 9 blocks and 11 steals, and UCLA barely squeaking past Iowa. They’re both wins and that’s what matters. But I can’t help thinking that both opponents would be right at home in the Big East, and are roughly comparable to Creighton. I think if UConn could only escape Iowa with a 2 pt win people here would be in sack cloth and ash. A 10 pt win over Illinois is not so different from UConn’s earlier win over Creighton. But it is a pretty clear demonstration that USC is not on another level from UConn, and that early season loss to them was really as close as the final score suggested.

One last observation: the fact that Kate Koval gets less playing time than Jana these days means that Niele is going with a small lineup rather like Geno’s. UConn is in good company and is competitive with the best teams now.

 

[Skeets]

I'm of the opinion that it is relatively rare to have a held ball situation with absolutely no contact prior to the ball being held. So, foul or jump ball is a matter of degrees in the ref's eye.

 

[HuskyNan]

Three games that should open some eyes in the BY. Of course, ND losing to NC St is one. But the other two are USC unable to pull away from Illinois despite getting 9 blocks and 11 steals, and UCLA barely squeaking past Iowa. They’re both wins and that’s what matters. But I can’t help thinking that both opponents would be right at home in the Big East, and are roughly comparable to Creighton. I think if UConn could only escape Iowa with a 2 pt win people here would be in sack cloth and ash. A 10 pt win over Illinois is not so different from UConn’s earlier win over Creighton. But it is a pretty clear demonstration that USC is not on another level from UConn, and that early season loss to them was really as close as the final score suggested.

One last observation: the fact that Kate Koval gets less playing time than Jana these days means that Niele is going with a small lineup rather like Geno’s. UConn is in good company and is competitive with the best teams now.

Iowa is Massey #21, Creighton is #28, Illinois is #37

NET ratings are Iowa #29, Illinois #30, Creighton #31

People here have freaked out over 26 point road wins. A 2 point win would be ugly on the board

 

[yhun89]

Can’t say I’m sad to see them lose. ND is scrappy, but NCSU can match that with their athelticism.

One things for sure, it’s gonna be weird to see Texas take No. 1 this week… considering they lost to ND.

 

[Puppy Love]

Can’t say I’m sad to see them lose. ND is scrappy, but NCSU can match that with their athelticism.

One things for sure, it’s gonna be weird to see Texas take No. 1 this week… considering they lost to ND.

Personally, I think it should be UCLA. They are being overly penalized for their loss to USC. Yes, they had a close game yesterday, but they won it and they only have one loss on the season.

 

[my2cents]

Curious why Wes Moore didn't tell players to foul at end of regulation. They had 2 to give with 5 secs left with a 3 point lead. Whittle down the clock and let ND have a true heave at the buzzer.

100%. Coaching malfeasance at the end of regulation.

 

[LETTERL]

Curious why Wes Moore didn't tell players to foul at end of regulation. They had 2 to give with 5 secs left with a 3 point lead. Whittle down the clock and let ND have a true heave at the buzzer.

He did. He talked about that in his post-game interview. Players didn't do as he wished.

 

[yhun89]

Personally, I think it should be UCLA. They are being overly penalized for their loss to USC. Yes, they had a close game yesterday, but they won it and they only have one loss on the season.

They had a close game to an unranked team. If anything, that should keep them away from the No. 1 spot as well. Texas earns it fair and square this week.

 

[Doctor G]

We can agree to disagree on the foul but what I meant by bad timing is that it was Hidalgo’s 5th foul, so she was out of the game at a crucial moment

ND’s rebounding was not good in the OTs. Not a recipe for success

Great game. Lot's of toughness/grit displayed by both teams. All the guards on the floor came to play. ND just ran out of gas (and out of Hidalgo's playing time) in a hostile environment after 2 OTs.

 

[oldude]

This was one of the best games I’ve seen since the Elite 8 game in Bridgeport a few years ago that also involved NC State, with the opposite outcome, when UConn won in double OT. Just like yesterday, there were lots of lead changes, great plays and clutch shots on both sides.

Wes Moore is one of the very best coaches in WBB and Raleigh is one of the toughest places to play for any visiting team, as UConn learned a year ago.

 

[browns]

to NC State.

Buzzer 3 at the end of regulation tied it for ND.
Will they stay at #1?

Love the way Citron plays.

no

 

[meyers7]

Only makes the Tennessee loss that much more disappointing.........UConn would likely be ranked in the top four if they had won that one.......

Worst loss we've had in many years.

 

[browns]

Respectfully disagree…there was a lot of contact and Hildalgo took a huge chance being that aggressive.

I didn’t think the call really impacted the outcome of the game. ND wasn’t playing good team ball…way too much one on one. They need to integrate Citron (who I think is terrific) and Westbeld into the offensive better.

Never seen Westbeld as invisible as she was yesterday

Three games that should open some eyes in the BY. Of course, ND losing to NC St is one. But the other two are USC unable to pull away from Illinois despite getting 9 blocks and 11 steals, and UCLA barely squeaking past Iowa. They’re both wins and that’s what matters. But I can’t help thinking that both opponents would be right at home in the Big East, and are roughly comparable to Creighton. I think if UConn could only escape Iowa with a 2 pt win people here would be in sack cloth and ash. A 10 pt win over Illinois is not so different from UConn’s earlier win over Creighton. But it is a pretty clear demonstration that USC is not on another level from UConn, and that early season loss to them was really as close as the final score suggested.

One last observation: the fact that Kate Koval gets less playing time than Jana these days means that Niele is going with a small lineup rather like Geno’s. UConn is in good company and is competitive with the best teams now.

With Westbeld and Karlan as a backup both healthy now Koval's playing time reduced..rightfuly so

 

[browns]

Everyone talks about the other 4 of ND,,rightfully so but King is a rebounding machine..destroyed Uconn

 

[Dugway]

Personally, I think it should be UCLA. They are being overly penalized for their loss to USC. Yes, they had a close game yesterday, but they won it and they only have one loss on the season.

Well, others would argue that the referee gave them yesterday’s win.

 

[oldude]

Worst loss we've had in many years.

It was certainly an unfortunate loss. But you don’t have to go back to far to find worse losses, like to unranked NC St just last year or to 21st ranked MD the year before or to unranked GT the year before that.