Letting WVU leave early may keep (or kept) the B12 from also extending an invite to UofL and Bosie which would kill the BE. The BE going to Idaho and telling Boise that this (BE) is thier only shot at a AQ confrence is a nice pitch.
Just a thought....might WV be expecting to be playing in the Big 12 next season on the assumption (however strong it may be) that UConn and/or RU will also be leaving before the year is up?
At that point, Big East football is officially dead, and the BCS bid issue is moot.
If the ACC and Bxii want Syracuse, Pitt, and WVU immediately, they should just go for the kill. UConn-ND/Rutgers to ACC, Louisville-Cincy to Bxii. That would suck for US
As I have said in numerous threads, though, it would behoove many of theAllse schools--Boise, BYU, USF, UCF, Houston, AFA, Navy, SMU, Temple--to join a conference together anyway (BE if it were around, even without Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, TCU) because they would appreciably increase their competition, and lose the dregs of their current conferences.
The hypothetical conference would have much higher averages across the board when you eliminate the Rices, Tulane, UABs, Memphises, Akrons, New Mexicos, and Idahos.
This isn't about Providence. This is about WVU, who has been a tremendous partner, deciding they want to be scumbags.
The Big EAst will be a viable football conference in 2012 and 2012 because Syracuse and Pitt (and WVU) are contractually required to play there. The fact that it may not be a viable conference afterwards is, frankly, a stupid argument for arguing you don't have to stay for 27 months.
WVU has elected to cheat, and say "sue us," rather than honor its obligations. It will be sued. I don't see how it thinks it will win, or why it should, but here we go.
You guys just like to sue everything huh? It could be the reason you are left out of the ACC, yet you want to do it again? What is the logic behind this? You'd think that if something didn't work once, you would learn from that and not do it again. It doesn't exactly help your reputation.
You guys just like to sue everything huh? It could be the reason you are left out of the ACC, yet you want to do it again? What is the logic behind this? You'd think that if something didn't work once, you would learn from that and not do it again. It doesn't exactly help your reputation.
If the ACC and Bxii want Syracuse, Pitt, and WVU immediately, they should just go for the kill. UConn-ND/Rutgers to ACC, Louisville-Cincy to Bxii. That would suck for USF.
As I have said in numerous threads, though, it would behoove many of these schools--Boise, BYU, USF, UCF, Houston, AFA, Navy, SMU, Temple--to join a conference together anyway (BE if it were around, even without Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, TCU) because they would appreciably increase their competition, and lose the dregs of their current conferences.
The hypothetical conference would have much higher averages across the board when you eliminate the Rices, Tulane, UABs, Memphises, Akrons, New Mexicos, and Idahos.
I'm sorry -- your moral justification for not suing a party damaging you by breaching a clear contractual term is what exactly (besides being a jerk).
I am sick enough of the trolls that I'm one more troll post away from going back to molestation replies. Hopefully, there are some bannings before I go there.
I can't wait for the response.Do you bother to learn what you are commenting on before you open your piehole? If not, I have no sympathy.
I said, WVU has every right to leave the conference, and not a single post here has challenged that at all. The terms upon which they get to leave is $5M and 27 months notice. They have announced that they want to leave for $5M and 7 months notice. In doing so, they will likely cost the Big East and its members tens of millions of dollars.
So, I will not go HAM on you but will simply ask you -- if a person who voluntarily enters into an agreement to do something simply refuses to do it because they don't want to, and their failure will cost you millions, why is seeking a redress in the ourts inappropriate. The purpose of the procedure is so that grown men have an option besides punching each other out, or ignoring it and letting a party in the wrong benefit at the expense of the party in the right. Your response?
It would not be Uconn suing WVU, it would be the league. Let me ask you a question - in all seriousness, not being adversarial here. What if a bunch of teams left the ACC and the league was going to lose their BCS bid and the reason was that the teams that left were trying to do so right away rather than what they agreed on years ago and signed up for. Would you advocate just letting them go and leave the ACC without a BCS bid?If you can't see a trend, then I am sorry. You sued us, Miami and VT for leaving. Just earlier today I read how you wanted to sue the NCAA for raising their APR standards if you were barred from NCAA tourny play and now you want to sue WVU. Sorry, it didn't help before and I was just pointing our that it doesn't help now. I am one of the more timid BC fans, who doesn't care either way if UConn is in the ACC. But you rarely hear about anyone suing or wanting to sue anyone else in the NCAA. Didn't hear it from Nebraska leaving, Colorado leaving, TCU leaving the first time. It's a trend. Sorry to point it out.
So, I will not go HAM on you but will simply ask you -- if a person who voluntarily enters into an agreement to do something simply refuses to do it because they don't want to, and their failure will cost you millions, why is seeking a redress in the ourts inappropriate. The purpose of the procedure is so that grown men have an option besides punching each other out, or ignoring it and letting a party in the wrong benefit at the expense of the party in the right. Your response?
It would not be Uconn suing WVU, it would be the league. Let me ask you a question - in all seriousness, not being adversarial here. What if a bunch of teams left the ACC and the league was going to lose their BCS bid and the reason was that the teams that left were trying to do so right away rather than what they agreed on years ago and signed up for. Would you advocate just letting them go and leave the ACC without a BCS bid?
. Our team and their team are in discussions about how we can make that happen." Seems the "how" certainly will be money. Either way suing everything and anything is not the answer. Once again Neb, CU, TCU, hell even UL, Cinci, USF all ditched their conferences at one point and none of them got sued.
But what about the BCS bid? you would have money via exit fees but you would not have a BCS bid.No. I would adovcate the ACC force them to pay their large exit along with a large early exit fee, growing for each year they want to leave early. If they flat our refused, which I don't see any of the 3 schools leaving doing, then sue to collect the damages.
There is so much muck in this thread that I started skimming. Is there a simple explanation of WVU's rationale for busting the 27 month agreement, or are they just being dumb hillbillies? I was amazed to see the Big 12 jump right into the fray by putting it into a press release. they are well on their way to becoming parties to the lawsuit.
I never said the Big East should let WVU or even SU or Pitt go for free. But I see no reason why the two parties can't work together on a settlement. From what I have read they have never said that they would just leave. Take this quote directly from WVU president, "As of July 1, we will be members of the Big 12. Our team and their team are in discussions about how we can make that happen." Seems the "how" certainly will be money. Either way suing everything and anything is not the answer. Once again Neb, CU, TCU, hell even UL, Cinci, USF all ditched their conferences at one point and none of them got sued.
I never said the Big East should let WVU or even SU or Pitt go for free. But I see no reason why the two parties can't work together on a settlement.
I never said the Big East should let WVU or even SU or Pitt go for free. But I see no reason why the two parties can't work together on a settlement. From what I have read they have never said that they would just leave. Take this quote directly from WVU president, "As of July 1, we will be members of the Big 12. Our team and their team are in discussions about how we can make that happen." Seems the "how" certainly will be money. Either way suing everything and anything is not the answer. Once again Neb, CU, TCU, hell even UL, Cinci, USF all ditched their conferences at one point and none of them got sued.
Wow, WVU really giving the remaining BE football schools a big . Surprised but not shocked. This BCS **** has turned academic types into stone cold, cut throat mercenaries.