From Blauds: Michigan closing in on Manuel as AD

[tcf15]

Warde was notably absent from the Georgetown game today.

 

[businesslawyer]

He was paid $500k+, good he did a few things that anyone at that level would be expected to.

Funny how Geno opens with defending him with the P5 thing knowing the optics of that event reflect poorly on him and exposed him as unprepared for that with zero message. That was the fact. Not saying it would have made the difference, but he was played during that hard.

LMAO. Or, he opened with that because he thinks its mind boggingly unfair that there are still idiots on this board who think that the quality of Manual's powerpoint or the speed of the modem in the USVI he used ot transmit it had anything to do with Louisville being selected.

It takes a special person to hold on to wildly speculative theories after those in the know, who actually lost something by the ACC's switch, tell them they are wrong. Congratulations.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Austin eh?

 

[JSM1970]

if you recall the ACC voted a couple times and didn't reach consensus on the first time and the faction pushing Louisville beat out the faction for UConn.

So the AD has nothing to do with that, influencing people, making his business case? Building consensus?

Ok.

LMAO. Or, he opened with that because he thinks its mind boggingly unfair that there are still idiots on this board who think that the quality of Manual's powerpoint or the speed of the modem in the USVI he used ot transmit it had anything to do with Louisville being selected.

It takes a special person to hold on to wildly speculative theories after those in the know, who actually lost something by the ACC's switch, tell them they are wrong. Congratulations.

 

[dayooper]

if you recall the ACC voted a couple times and didn't reach consensus on the first time and the faction pushing Louisville beat out the faction for UConn.

So the AD has nothing to do with that, influencing people, making his business case? Building consensus?

Ok.

FSU and Clemson wanted football, pure and simple. They needed someone very quickly as UMD leaving them left the ACC unprepared. Tobacco row offered UConn, FSU/Clemson said no. Tobacco offered up you all again, FSU/Clemson said no, we want a bigger name in football or we are leaving. Tobacco row looked at UL, saw a pretty good basketball program with probably the best football name available east of the Mississippi. FSU/Clemson bit.

 

[businesslawyer]

if you recall the ACC voted a couple times and didn't reach consensus on the first time and the faction pushing Louisville beat out the faction for UConn.

So the AD has nothing to do with that, influencing people, making his business case? Building consensus?

Ok.

You think this was a judged debate? As opposed to those who felt more srongly fighting those who felt less strongly? OK

 

[HuskyBandDad]

if you recall the ACC voted a couple times and didn't reach consensus on the first time and the faction pushing Louisville beat out the faction for UConn.

So the AD has nothing to do with that, influencing people, making his business case? Building consensus?

Ok.

School presidents vote not ADs

 

[HuskyBandDad]

Recruiting was hurt by the NCAA APR tourny ban. Warde, Ollie and Herbst had nothing to do with it.

 

[CTMike]

I feel like Warde haters must have an irrational love for the work Hathaway did here because there is so little recognition of what Hathaway turned over. The ship had already hit the iceberg when WM took the wheel.

 

[FDNY99]

I feel like Warde haters must have an irrational love for the work Hathaway did here because there is so little recognition of what Hathaway turned over. The ship had already hit the iceberg when WM took the wheel.

...they were throwing off deck chairs hoping that would shed enough weight so it wouldn't sink

 

[CTMike]

...they were throwing off deck chairs hoping that would shed enough weight so it wouldn't sink

IF ONLY WARDE DIDNT EAT THAT DONUT AMIRITE? HURRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[Rumrunner]

Shades of gray. There's enough good, great and not so great things Manuel has done.

Jurich's chest puffing...who knows the real scoop. Undeniably the optics were bad. Whether the public perception of UConn football at the time could have been burnished through a more forceful presentation? Maybe, maybe not. But the attempt, if you can call it that, needed a purple pill.

Don't get me started on waiving the girl's hoop revenue. That was not a good deal for UConn.

Ollie was Calhoun's baby. Manuel projected control with the interim business, but end of the day, Ollie's here and not in the oil patch.

Pasqualoni and his charismatic sidekick, Manuel might have, could have pulled the plug at the end of season two, but he at least didn't wait any longer. My only criticism is that Manuel goes by the mantra, "trust your eyes." He had access to the coaches, players, etc. My guess is that he saw the crap going on at the spring game, with every intention of pulling the plug when he did. TJ was his tell.

With respect to Diaco, that bet is still open but looks like a solid hire. The learn on the job stuff was obvious and a price to pay sort of thing.

Football scheduling, out.freaking.standing. In this area, he'll be missed.

The basketball practice facility was pushed over the top under his guidance, but it would have gotten there with anybody but a hathaway-esque talent.

APR, scandals, etc. Aside from McCombs, outstanding. The GSR and APR are the dumbest metric in all of the NCAA, but it is a game that must be played.

Bottom line, he has been competent. With some dumpster fire programs littering the college landscape, competent is very high praise.

The challenge for any AD is the $ problem. Or the mid major conference problem. In reality, there isn't a difference between the two. Small victories will be subsumed by that lack of distinction, and really, in the end, the person that can solve it will be the God of Storrs. So no immortality for Manuel, but it could have, and very well might have been worse under someone else's guidance. So cheers to competence.

 

[FDNY99]

I feel like Warde haters must have an irrational love for the work Hathaway did here because there is so little recognition of what Hathaway turned over. The ship had already hit the iceberg when WM took the wheel.

Mike I think the only person employed by the University of Connecticut Department of Athletics that can even come close to ripping off as much $$ as Hathaway did was Pasqualoni and DeLeone. But Hathaway has to win because he was here for 8 yrs so he definitely collected more $$ in salary. I would venture to say the man was one of the top 10 all time inept D-1 FBS level AD's. Rumor has it that Hofstra hired him with the notion his "contacts" would get them an invite to the Atlantic 10...they're still waiting for that call.

 

[SAMCRO]

This is laughable.... The Warde bashers minds won't ever be changed, they just won't. Regardless of the fact that one of the elite college programs has him in their cross hairs to run their AD (and they could have their pick of just about anyone they want for that job), these people's opinions won't be changed. Despite the fact that Ollie negotiated a clause in his contract that if Warde left he could have an exit from his contract, and that Auriema has pretty much called them idiots in an interview, their minds will never be changed. They must be correct, and EVERYONE ELSE must be wrong.

 

[pj]

Austin eh?

Too bad Warde has no influence on realignment. Otherwise Austin might be a good place to make a difference.

 

[CTMike]

Mike I think the only person employed by the University of Connecticut Department of Athletics that can even come close to ripping off as much $$ as Hathaway did was Pasqualoni and DeLeone. But Hathaway has to win because he was here for 8 yrs so he definitely collected more $$ in salary. I would venture to say the man was one of the top 10 all time inept D-1 FBS level AD's. Rumor has it that Hofstra hired him with the notion his "contacts" would get them an invite to the Atlantic 10...they're still waiting for that call.

Oh completely agree- which is why it's all the more strange that Warde Haters blame him for not fixing everything in a matter of months.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Fine, why were Clemson and FSU convinced Louisville was some football power vs. UConn and why couldn't UConn create a business case for itself?

I guess statements about "monitoring the situation" are worse than "using all available resources" and not being at some stupid preseason hoops tourney at one of the most critical times in the program's history.

It was amateur hour, they were lost and weren't ready for any of it and got played. Jurich was ready.

Oh, but we're now in Hockey Easy along with teams like UMass Lowell, that should heighten our presence with the B1G and B12.

OK, in inverse order, Hockey East is the best collegiate hockey conference and UConn plays in it. B1G wants to be the best at everything, including hockey. Thus, UConn participation in Hockey East help greatly, especially if the Huskies are competing for a B1G slot with schools like Kansas, Oklahoma, etc.

As for the ACC, I have siad this elsewhere. Yes, UConn was overconfident about being the next one in. Yes, Jurich did a great job selling Louisville. Yes, Warde could have done more; but, at least he did not hurt UConn like prior AD's. But, in the end it did not matter.

When Maryland left, the ACC had 11 voting members and 3 pending/non-voting members in Syracuse, Pitt, and ND. To get into the ACC, UConn needed 2/3 majority of 7 'yes' votes. Of course, to save face, once 7 votes is secured, everyone is expected to vote 'yes' to save face. From the start, UConn had at least 4 solid 'no' votes - 1) BC, 2) Clemson, 3) FSU, and 4) Miami. In addition, there was a solid 'no' from pending member Syracuse and Pitt, who owed their P5 lives to Syracuse and BC, was told likely to follow along. Only 1 more school would have had to swing no, likely G Tech. UConn's vote was DOA before Maryland left and before anyone in Storrs could do squat. Louisville took advantage of that and won.

 

[junglehusky]

This is laughable.... The Warde bashers minds won't ever be changed, they just won't. Regardless of the fact that one of the elite college programs has him in their cross hairs to run their AD (and they could have their pick of just about anyone they want for that job), these people's opinions won't be changed. Despite the fact that Ollie negotiated a clause in his contract that if Warde left he could have an exit from his contract, and that Auriema has pretty much called them idiots in an interview, their minds will never be changed. They must be correct, and EVERYONE ELSE must be wrong.

You are right. They are the Orly Taitz's of the UConn fanbase.

 

[ZooCougar]

Hanging out in the Virgin Islands most definitely wasn't decisive to having UConn left out. But at the time, it was terrible, terrible optics. Regardless of that fact, it wasn't anything worth holding a grudge over.

 

[ZooCougar]

Oh completely agree- which is why it's all the more strange that Warde Haters blame him for not fixing everything in a matter of months.

People like Waylon live in a world where they believe that stuff can get fixed on twitter.

 

[junglehusky]

People like Waylon live in a world where they believe that stuff can get fixed on twitter.

But they don't have twitter in the USVI.

Or cell phones or email.

 

[junglehusky]

As for the ACC, I have siad this elsewhere. Yes, UConn was overconfident about being the next one in. Yes, Jurich did a great job selling Louisville. Yes, Warde could have done more; but, at least he did not hurt UConn like prior AD's. But, in the end it did not matter.

UConn was overconfident, because their contacts in the ACC were overconfident in their own vote whipping abilities.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

UConn was overconfident, because their contacts in the ACC were overconfident in their own vote whipping abilities.

What should we expect when Louisville invites ACC Presidents to visit to discuss their ACC bid and has them stay in Billy Minardi Hall for a weekend

 

[DarthGrumpy]

But they don't have twitter in the USVI.

Or cell phones or email.

The last time I was in the Caribbean, I adamantly told my boss that there was no internet nor cell service there and left my BlackBerry at home.

 

[ZooCougar]

UConn was overconfident, because their contacts in the ACC were overconfident in their own vote whipping abilities.

FSU and Clemson waking up and freaking out about their football status held the whole ACC hostage. Maryland leaving was a such a shock to the system.

Louisville Community College was added out of fear, not really deliberate strategic thinking.