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Wrong team for KLS?

Dokey said:
Lou hasn’t been on the court enough minutes to judge her play. What I did notice was she was open for the three 2-3 times and was ignored whereas Quigley would have gotten the ball, the Quigley who missed 7 out of 10 shots.
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Quigley was a respectable 8-17 overall and is shooting 46% from 3 for the season.

Having a go at Quigley for her 3 point percentage in a given game is absurd.
 
Nothing about this feels right. Thinking of her as a four, that makes no sense to me. Drafting her fourth overall and barely playing her at all.

Better days ahead, but probably not there.
 
Orangutan said:
Quigley was a respectable 8-17 overall and is shooting 46% from 3 for the season.

Having a go at Quigley for her 3 point percentage in a given game is absurd.
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This onviously wasn't a dig at Quigley, a great three point shooter, just an observation that in this one game the Sky three point shooters were having a bad night, 2 for 14 in first half or 1 for 13 of you leave out Lou, and given how cold they were, putting Lou in more might--might-- have helped. How many threes might Lou hit if given 10 chances? She took one shot.Steph passed up too many threes and Diamond...well, that isn't her main skill.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Gabby played power forward last year. She's the backup point guard this year. Who else has ever played that combination of positions?
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Geew1992 said:
Have to disagree. Turner is playing because of injuries.
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Most specifically, she's probably getting most of this time because Sancho Lyttle, who had started all 18 games, went down with an ACL injury in early July and will miss the rest of the season. She ranked fourth on the team in scoring (7.9), third in rebounding (5.3) and was shooting 54 percent from the field.

Up to then, Mercury Coach Sandy Brondello had said Turner was a "5," which made me wonder why Brondello traded for Turner if she was going to sit most of the time.

However, necessity is the mother of PT and Bri, who is indeed a good athlete, seems to be helping the cause, notably on the rebounding angle. She'll continue to get better on all defensive fronts (but EDD is a challenge for anyone) and will get most of her offense on put-backs and running the floor.
 
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I agree it's been a combo of factors that has limited KLS this year, but assuming she was healthy from the beginning, what team do you think in the league could be using her services right now? It does seem as if Mabrey has occasionally found some success in LA (though her overall shooting numbers are pretty bad), so could see KLS sliding into that spot. Same thing for Cunningham and Phoenix and Cazorla in Atlanta, but it's tough out there for a rookie in the WNBA. Only two rookies this year are averaging more than 10ppg (Arike and Napheesa), and only 13 are averaging more than 10 min per game.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Gabby played power forward last year. She's the backup point guard this year. Who else has ever played that combination of positions?
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Those experiences will serve her well in the coming years.
 
Dillon77 said:
Most specifically, she's probably getting most of this time because Sancho Lyttle, who had started all 18 games, went down with an ACL injury in early July and will miss the rest of the season. She ranked fourth on the team in scoring (7.9), third in rebounding (5.3) and was shooting 54 percent from the field.

Up to then, Mercury Coach Sandy Brondello had said Turner was a "5," which made me wonder why Brondello traded for Turner if she was going to sit most of the time.

However, necessity is the mother of PT and Bri, who is indeed a good athlete, seems to be helping the cause, notably on the rebounding angle. She'll continue to get better on all defensive fronts (but EDD is a challenge for anyone) and will get most of her offense on put-backs and running the floor.
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I think Turner and Griner can play off of each other very well. Griner through a pretty lob pass to her the other night. I just wish Turner had a short to mid range jumper that she's confident with. She kind of had one earlier in her career, but she didn't really develop over her ND career. Injuries....

I hope her and Samuelson can both develop as pros and remain healthy. I didn't realize that the Sky are 5th in there standings. I'm afraid KLS might not see much playing time for the rest of the season, unless more Sky players are injured. Being in the top 4 is a huge advantage in the playoffs. Chicago definitely wants one of those spots
 
Dokey said:
Lou hasn’t been on the court enough minutes to judge her play. What I did notice was she was open for the three 2-3 times and was ignored whereas Quigley would have gotten the ball, the Quigley who missed 7 out of 10 shots.
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It appears that Lou has not gained the trust of her teammates yet.
 
I'm at a lost concerning what seems like an incitement to discourse about an injustice regarding KLS. Chicago has improved a lot from the past couple of years. Deshield has found form and others have too. What exactly would KLS contribute? They have people who can shoot threes-- even Dolson. Some of said she would have been better off w/ the Sparks! (I'm not going to count the number of players sitting there that are far better-) I seriously doubt that KLS is complaining. The latter speaks more to posters here. Also, if I read correctly Gabby was given pg duties because of injuries(?) Well, that could be pt.2 of the KLS saga-- why Gabby and not KLS-

Few players are able to come in the WNBA hitting the ground running. Nor is it the place to develop. Europe, China, etc are the places for working on your game. The majority know this. As this is a Uconn board I will mention former players. Nurse went to Australia, rather than Europe or Russia, to play on a team where she had ample playing time- And Gabby too. Enough. I' still perplexed about this thread and what meaning it could have for the player and team.

Let me be clear. I do not mean to criticize, individually, this or that person, only to ask that reason be put back into the whole. I like ice cream but, I have never sat an ate a whole qrt of it, only a small cup with a second helping.
 
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Dokey said:
This onviously wasn't a dig at Quigley, a great three point shooter, just an observation that in this one game the Sky three point shooters were having a bad night, 2 for 14 in first half or 1 for 13 of you leave out Lou, and given how cold they were, putting Lou in more might--might-- have helped. How many threes might Lou hit if given 10 chances? She took one shot.Steph passed up too many threes and Diamond...well, that isn't her main skill.
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That makes sense. Apologies if I misunderstood. I see what you mean about Lou being a useful asset when the Sky are struggling from 3.

In reference to Quigley, specifically, it's Allie's job to shoot from deep if she has an opening. Anyone else, I'm all about passing up a good shot to get a great one.

I didn't have the chance to watch yesterday's game but I did see the clip of Lou's 3 and that deep stroke looked as pretty as ever.
 
hjoerring said:
I'm at a lost concerning what seems like an incitement to discourse about an injustice regarding KLS. Chicago has improved a lot from the past couple of years. Deshield has found form and others have too. What exactly would KLS contribute? They have people who can shoot threes-- even Dolson. Some of said she would have been better off w/ the Sparks! (I'm not going to count the number of players sitting there that are far better-)
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Is this a case of drafting the perceived best player available and not the player with the most needed skill set?
 
Waquoit said:
KLS' performance is no surprise to anyone paying attention. She was a good not great college player who did her best against the JV teams on the schedule, she struggled against the iron. The WNBA is all iron.
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I guess those people who run the Chicago Sky are a bunch of fools for wasting a 4th pick of the draft on Lou.:rolleyes:
 
pvdoggy said:
I guess those people who run the Chicago Sky are a bunch of fools for wasting a 4th pick of the draft on Lou.:rolleyes:
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I have always been a supporter and fan of Lou, but in reality, the scouting of the WNBA teams leaves a lot to be desired. Some teams consistently make bad picks. Except for the top few picks the WNBA is not as dependent on draft picks as the NBA or some other professional sports. I doubt they put a lot of resources into scouting players. Even the level of coaching in the WNBA is not as good as the top-level college coaches. I would not put too much store in the competence of their scouting staff. If they even have a scouting staff? The WNBA, in general, is an organization filled with incompetence.

As I stated in previous posts- Often teams make mistakes in respect to the players the draft. The fact that there are threads discussing how Lou is on the wrong team is evidence of that. I also believe she is on the wrong team and that translates to the team making a mistake in drafting a player that does not fit in their system. Fortunately she was a high enough draft pick and had a good rep coming out of college that she will be given an opportunity at least with another team if it doesn't work out where she is at. The team they are drafted by has a major influence on a players level of success.
 
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Waquoit said:
KLS' performance is no surprise to anyone paying attention. She was a good not great college player who did her best against the JV teams on the schedule, she struggled against the iron. The WNBA is all iron.
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Besides a "feeling" and an opinion did you actually run the numbers and compare the how Lou performed against the "iron" teams and the JV teams? Once a customer's techie was complaining about our product not working correctly. I asked him if he had read the product manual. His answer and yours are undoubtedly the same. No! ;):rolleyes:
 
willtalk said:
I have always been a supporter and fan of Lou, but in reality, the scouting of the WNBA teams leaves a lot to be desired. Some teams consistently make bad picks. Except for the top few picks the WNBA is not as dependent on draft picks as the NBA or some other professional sports. I doubt they put a lot of resources into scouting players. Even the level of coaching in the WNBA is not as good as the top-level college coaches. I would not put too much store in the competence of their scouting staff. If they even have a scouting staff? The WNBA, in general, is an organization filled with incompetence.

As I stated in previous posts- Often teams make mistakes in respect to the players the draft. The fact that there are threads discussing how Lou is on the wrong team is evidence of that. I also believe she is on the wrong team and that translates to the team making a mistake in drafting a player that does not fit in their system. Fortunately she was a high enough draft pick and had a good rep coming out of college that she will be given an opportunity at least with another team if it doesn't work out where she is at. The team they are drafted by has a major influence on a players level of success.
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I am not saying whether the Sky made a mistake in drafting a player that does not fit in their system, I was just responding to the post which basically says Lou is not that good of a player and always struggled against the better teams in college because that is just not true. Lou has had some great game against very good teams.
 
Lou and the Sky need to part ways. I just hope Lou’s mother going off on Twitter (bad mouthing the coach and getting into fights with internet randoms) isn’t going to reduce the interests of other teams, a la what was rumored about the Lexie Brown situation last season.
 
Trappa said:
Lou and the Sky need to part ways. I just hope Lou’s mother going off on Twitter (bad mouthing the coach and getting into fights with internet randoms) isn’t going to reduce the interests of other teams, a la what was rumored about the Lexie Brown situation last season.
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Lexie Brown's mother did that? :eek::confused::confused::oops:
 
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On the men's side, there are a lot of really good men's college basketball players who's game just doesn't translate to the pro game. It's no ones fault. It is what it is. Adam Morrison was a great college player. His game didn't translate to the NBA. He just was not athletic enough or quick enough to play in the NBA. Lou was an excellent college basketball player. Will her game translate to the WNBA game?? Only time will tell. She will need to work on improving her quickness and being able to create her own shot. The WNBA and College basketball are not the same game. I hope she can get it done.
 
Trappa said:
Lou and the Sky need to part ways. I just hope Lou’s mother going off on Twitter (bad mouthing the coach and getting into fights with internet randoms) isn’t going to reduce the interests of other teams, a la what was rumored about the Lexie Brown situation last season.
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Not one of Lou's moms tweets were responded too, so I have no idea where you think she was getting into fights with internet randoms. Not one tweet mentions the coach by name either.
 
ochoopsfan said:
Not one of Lou's moms tweets were responded too, so I have no idea where you think she was getting into fights with internet randoms. Not one tweet mentions the coach by name either.
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Uh. Yes.

On the second point: she hasn't said "Coach Wade" but she has made plenty of other statements where it is clear she's referencing her yougest daughter's current coach. On the first point: the most recent exchanges just from the past 24 hours are in a thread started by one of the female writers for Chicago on The Athletic, following some replies by a Sky fan account and a fan, as well as calling a fan who watches Karlie and Lou a "doofus" and a "twitter creeper, use your real name or get lost" for saying they have watched Karlie's games in Belgium and she can't wait for Lou to get more playing time at SF because she's not fast enough to be a SG in the WNBA.

You can DM me if you need a direct link.
 
ochoopsfan said:
Not one of Lou's moms tweets were responded too, so I have no idea where you think she was getting into fights with internet randoms. Not one tweet mentions the coach by name either.
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But this is just funny to me because this Bryant Payne always has the loudest bad takes on twitter. I love that she called him out on acting like he has any idea "what HC Wade wants her to learn".
 
Orangutan said:
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But this is just funny to me because this Bryant Payne always has the loudest bad takes on twitter. I love that she called him out on acting like he has any idea "what HC Wade wants her to learn".
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Did not see those posts on her twitter feed.
 
Orangutan said:
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But this is just funny to me because this Bryant Payne always has the loudest bad takes on twitter. I love that she called him out on acting like he has any idea "what HC Wade wants her to learn".
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There is no bigger fool on twitter (on wbb) than this Payne guy. Too funny.
 
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