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WR/TE/QB Jasen Rose (Southington HS CT)

I'm hearing that BC is the leader if he had to make a decision right now and Rose wants to go to the best academic university that offers. He is only a junior and things change so maybe we can improve our position and become a better option in the future.
 
How much has UConn mined this mother lode of talent over the years? Are any O-line seniors at Southington unclaimed at this date?
Southington players, for whatever reason, rarely end up at UConn. The last Knights player actively recruited by the Huskies was qb Matt Kelleher, who was Ct. Gatorade Player of the Year, who was recruited by FHCRE. UConn never had a chance as Randy offered a scholly for him as a tight end (he wanted to stay at qb), & he was a Yale legacy ( family members are Eli alums).
If UConn could land Rose & Alex Jamele, it would be a success. (I suspect that Jamele is leaning toward playing lacrosse at the next level).
 
I am not sure jamelle is a D1 talent, but he is really close. Rose is certainly a D1 talent and I hope we land him. he can contribute at whatever position.
 
Had an awkward aha moment last week. Because my sons are much older than J.R., I never made the connection of who his parents are. I realized that I have a business relationship with his dad. The father knows that I'm a UConn alum & season ticket holder. Here's the sticky part: That code of conduct handbook that season ticket holders receive about rules of engagement with prospective recruits. Am I prohibited from talking UConn football with his dad, or just prohibited about talking about J.R.'s recruitment & college intentions such as what field of studies that he'd like to major in?
misplaced that handbook or I'd already know the answers .
 
Had an awkward aha moment last week. Because my sons are much older than J.R., I never made the connection of who his parents are. I realized that I have a business relationship with his dad. The father knows that I'm a UConn alum & season ticket holder. Here's the sticky part: That code of conduct handbook that season ticket holders receive about rules of engagement with prospective recruits. Am I prohibited from talking UConn football with his dad, or just prohibited about talking about J.R.'s recruitment & college intentions such as what field of studies that he'd like to major in?
misplaced that handbook or I'd already know the answers .

http://www.uconnhuskies.com/compliance/contact-psa.html
 
I am not sure jamelle is a D1 talent, but he is really close. Rose is certainly a D1 talent and I hope we land him. he can contribute at whatever position.
Rose is not the only one UCONN is looking at. They also are looking at receiver Julian Dunn of Newtown, defensive end Mark Evanchick of Darien, and running back/linebacker Bobby Drysdale of Brookfield. Dunn is a senior, and Evanchick and Drysdale are juniors. All three are 1st team all-state. Drysdale is quite an athlete, broke Scott Lutrus's single season rushing record last season as a sophomore, he's 6'1" 215 and still growing. Doubt they would keep him as a halfback, but who knows. UCONN was at the Brookfield/Newtown game scouting him and Dunn. Evanchick is the most explosive defensive player in the state in several years, not quite as big (6-1 230 and still growing) as Zach Allen but is faster and likely stronger. Only a junior he is right now the #4 all time career sack leader in state history (the great Dwight Freeney is #1), recently broke the FCIAC career sack record which had stood since 1976. Has 21 sacks so far this season with one more game to go. He is within striking distance and could possibly break Freeney's record next year. Doing what he has done in a tough, tough league like the FCIAC is one heck of feat. My guess is UCONN is recruiting him as a linebacker though. Darien vs Southington would be a great game, too bad it won't happen.
 
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Looks like a move tight end prospect to me.

I am most impressed by the coaching. Southington is a very disciplined team, and whoever is coaching the offense does a great job.
 
Looks like a move tight end prospect to me.

I am most impressed by the coaching. Southington is a very disciplined team, and whoever is coaching the offense does a great job.
You sure. 23-30 332 4 TDs with a qtr and a half of football left to play in the Class LL - Large State Championship game.

EDIT: Spoke too soon, Jasen throw a 16 yard TD pass while I was typing. 24-31 348 and 5 TDs. Has rushed 3 times for 17 yards also.

EDIT 2: Southington hasn't given up a single completed pass. NFA is 0-7 in the game. Follow along here: http://www.cstv.com/gametracker/lau...=maxpct&sport=mfootbl&camefrom=&startschool=&
 
You sure. 23-30 332 4 TDs with a qtr and a half of football left to play in the Class LL - Large State Championship game.

EDIT: Spoke too soon, Jasen throw a 16 yard TD pass while I was typing. 24-31 348 and 5 TDs. Has rushed 3 times for 17 yards also.

EDIT 2: Southington hasn't given up a single completed pass. NFA is 0-7 in the game. Follow along here: http://www.cstv.com/gametracker/lau...=maxpct&sport=mfootbl&camefrom=&startschool=&

Just going by what I see this game. He is extremely athletic. Put some bulk on that frame and he can cause some mismatches at tight end.
 
And Jamele is the best player on the field. He definitely going the lacrosse route?
Until he receives an offer, yes. Best player on the field? Maybe best player on the field without an offer. Kid does have some good talent. State record in receiving TD's, but who is throwing him the football? That's right the kid this thread was formed for. After all Jemele is a CT football player. What competition level are they playing? 49-0 with a quarter to go in the state championship game? Really? NFA clearly had no chance. Not sure how up to date stats are, but 49-0 through 3 quarters. 0 yards passing and only 47 rushing.

How about his teammate Matt Maxwell. 8 catches 127 and 3TDs. He on anyones radar?

The fact that Rose has played: WR/TE/QB and punts for his team (last punt 47 yards) tells me everything I need to know about the best player on the football field. Let alone his own team.
 
Looks like a move tight end prospect to me.

I am most impressed by the coaching. Southington is a very disciplined team, and whoever is coaching the offense does a great job.
The picture on the front page of today's Meriden Record-Journal shows Coach Drury partially avoiding the Gatorade bath along with "Asst. Coach Brian Stranieri". In his other incarnation, Coach Stranieri is one of the Vice Principals at S.H.S. That team BETTER be disciplined.
 
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The picture on the front page of today's Meriden Record-Journal shows Coach Drury partially avoiding the Gatorade bath along with "Asst. Coach Brian Stranieri". In his other incarnation, Coach Stranieri is one of the Vice Principals at S.H.S. That team BETTER be disciplined.

Very impressed by the team, both offense and defense. It was obvious they were well coached and knew their roles. D Line did great job of maintaining responsibilities. There was no freelancing by the players. Rose took what the defense gave him. It sounds so simple, but it is so difficult at the high school level.
 
Thought Tyler Dube (2011, SHS) was better than Jamele. Dube is silently putting up great numbers at Sacred Heart (79 receptions for 960 yards w/ 16 TD's).

But Rose has D1 talent at QB. 47 TD's and 9 INT's for over 2800 yards. Completes 70% of his passes.
 
Very impressed by the team, both offense and defense. It was obvious they were well coached and knew their roles. D Line did great job of maintaining responsibilities. There was no freelancing by the players. Rose took what the defense gave him. It sounds so simple, but it is so difficult at the high school level.
Thought Tyler Dube (2011, SHS) was better than Jamele. Dube is silently putting up great numbers at Sacred Heart (79 receptions for 960 yards w/ 16 TD's).

But Rose has D1 talent at QB. 47 TD's and 9 INT's for over 2800 yards. Completes 70% of his passes.
Of course they look impressive when they play cupcakes. I'm cautiously optimistic on Rose. He'll play at the D1 level but I wonder if it will be at QB? Maybe TE if he bulks up. Southington has played a weak schedule against relatively weak teams, and what I'm saying is that Rose has never been tested nor has Southington. Southington plays in the CCC, which had three undefeated teams this year. Three in the same league, and a weak league at that. How on earth is that possible? It's possible because the CCC league does not want their best teams playing each other, beating each other up during the season, fall in the NH Reg poll with a loss or two, so they schedule accordingly. What I'm saying is I wonder how Rose's numbers would be and how he would look to scouts with Mark Evanchick, George Reed, and Zach Allen chasing him all over the field. The CalPreps CT poll is at odds with the New Haven Reg poll because it includes SOS and league strength (based on OOC play) in it's calculations. The FCIAC and SCC are much stronger leagues top to bottom than the CCC or ECC. FWIW Calpreps ranks New Canaan and Darien ahead of Southington, even though Southington is undefeated. St Joes, another FCIAC club has TWO losses and blew out undefeated EEC champ Ledyard 37-7 for the M class championship. St Joe's is ranked #4 ahead of undefeated CCC team Windsor in Calpreps poll.
 
Of course they look impressive when they play cupcakes. I'm cautiously optimistic on Rose. He'll play at the D1 level but I wonder if it will be at QB? Maybe TE if he bulks up. Southington has played a weak schedule against relatively weak teams, and what I'm saying is that Rose has never been tested nor has Southington. Southington plays in the CCC, which had three undefeated teams this year. Three in the same league, and a weak league at that. How on earth is that possible? It's possible because the CCC league does not want their best teams playing each other, beating each other up during the season, fall in the NH Reg poll with a loss or two, so they schedule accordingly. What I'm saying is I wonder how Rose's numbers would be and how he would look to scouts with Mark Evanchick, George Reed, and Zach Allen chasing him all over the field. The CalPreps CT poll is at odds with the New Haven Reg poll because it includes SOS and league strength (based on OOC play) in it's calculations. The FCIAC and SCC are much stronger leagues top to bottom than the CCC or ECC. FWIW Calpreps ranks New Canaan and Darien ahead of Southington, even though Southington is undefeated. St Joes, another FCIAC club has TWO losses and blew out undefeated EEC champ Ledyard 37-7 for the M class championship. St Joe's is ranked #4 ahead of undefeated CCC team Windsor in Calpreps poll.
The year prior Southington beat Fairfield Prep (9-2) 52-34. They only lost to Daniel Hand and St. Joes by a combined 10 points. Not really seeing your argument with the strength of conferences. Sure, FCIAC and SCC are stronger as a whole, but at the top there is no doubt in my mind Southington is the best team in the state . Rose's numbers would be similar if he played in those conferences as well, he's that good.
 
The year prior Southington beat Fairfield Prep (9-2) 52-34. They only lost to Daniel Hand and St. Joes by a combined 10 points. Not really seeing your argument with the strength of conferences. Sure, FCIAC and SCC are stronger as a whole, but at the top there is no doubt in my mind Southington is the best team in the state . Rose's numbers would be similar if he played in those conferences as well, he's that good.
I don't know how you can say that when he's had all the time in the world to throw against weak teams with easy defensive lines and easier secondaries. Southington has not played anyone in the NH register poll all season long THIS YEAR, but as long as you're bringing up last year, I'll bite. Prep had injuries for that final game against Southington, it's the nature of their very tough schedule (played two OOC games against FCIAC teams and their grueling SCC schedule), and Southington came in smelling like a rose (no pun intended). Earlier that season Prep put 33 points on the board against Glastonbury, a team that Southington almost lost to. Prep also shut out Cheshire 26-0, and Southington beat Cheshire 33-6, similar scores. Tim Boyle looked great too in high school, but he had a great, great offensive line to protect him and had all the time in the world to protect him. How many times this year has Rose been sacked? My guess is zero.

I'm saying Rose could be a great player and Southington could be a great team, but I have some strong doubts.
 
Of course they look impressive when they play cupcakes. I'm cautiously optimistic on Rose. He'll play at the D1 level but I wonder if it will be at QB? Maybe TE if he bulks up. Southington has played a weak schedule against relatively weak teams, and what I'm saying is that Rose has never been tested nor has Southington. Southington plays in the CCC, which had three undefeated teams this year. Three in the same league, and a weak league at that. How on earth is that possible? It's possible because the CCC league does not want their best teams playing each other, beating each other up during the season, fall in the NH Reg poll with a loss or two, so they schedule accordingly. What I'm saying is I wonder how Rose's numbers would be and how he would look to scouts with Mark Evanchick, George Reed, and Zach Allen chasing him all over the field. The CalPreps CT poll is at odds with the New Haven Reg poll because it includes SOS and league strength (based on OOC play) in it's calculations. The FCIAC and SCC are much stronger leagues top to bottom than the CCC or ECC. FWIW Calpreps ranks New Canaan and Darien ahead of Southington, even though Southington is undefeated. St Joes, another FCIAC club has TWO losses and blew out undefeated EEC champ Ledyard 37-7 for the M class championship. St Joe's is ranked #4 ahead of undefeated CCC team Windsor in Calpreps poll.
You clearly are not familiar when you insinuate that " the CCC league does not want their best teams playing each other". Let me give you two instances: When the CCC expanded to 4 divisions, the divisions set up so that neighboring towns were in the same divisions. The CCC South consisted of both Bristol & Meriden schools along with Southington & New Britain. Maloney in Meriden & Bristol Eastern complained to the league that having to play annually against LL behemoths Southington & New Britain (this was the Jack Cochran era) diminished their chances of winning & they wanted to play against same sized institutions. Southington & New Britain were then placed into the same division as Manchester, Simsbury, Glastonbury & East Hartford. They also are scheduled against other larger sized schools to fill out their season.
The second instance occurred in the last two years. In either 2012 or 2013 Southington was scheduled to play Windsor, a team that regularly makes the CIAC playoffs. Shortly before the season the Windsor Athletic Dept. Called their counterparts in Southington & the CCC offices & intentionally forfeited the game, leaving the possibility of Southington having to virtually go undefeated to make the playoffs as the forfeit had dire consequences in the playoff rankings measurements.
It's not the league that is in control, it's the individual schools.
 
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You clearly are not familiar when you insinuate that " the CCC league does not want their best teams playing each other". Let me give you two instances: When the CCC expanded to 4 divisions, the divisions set up so that neighboring towns were in the same divisions. The CCC South consisted of both Bristol & Meriden schools along with Southington & New Britain. Maloney in Meriden & Bristol Eastern complained to the league that having to play annually against LL behemoths Southington & New Britain (this was the Jack Cochran era) diminished their chances of winning & they wanted to play against same sized institutions. Southington & New Britain were then placed into the same division as Manchester, Simsbury, Glastonbury & East Hartford. They also are scheduled against other larger sized schools to fill out their season.
The second instance occurred in the last two years. In either 2012 or 2013 Southington was scheduled to play Windsor, a team that regularly makes the CIAC playoffs. Shortly before the season the Windsor Athletic Dept. Called their counterparts in Southington & the CCC offices & intentionally forfeited the game, leaving the possibility of Southington having to virtually go undefeated to make the playoffs as the forfeit had dire consequences in the playoff rankings measurements.
It's not the league that is in control, it's the individual schools.
This is true. If a school's athletic department is powerful enough they can change schedules. It happened throughout my baseball career at Southington all the time. Football was more notorious for this under the Kelly era. Mella tried to play big games, but he was nothing more than a charismatic coach who won because of his players.
 
I don't know how you can say that when he's had all the time in the world to throw against weak teams with easy defensive lines and easier secondaries. Southington has not played anyone in the NH register poll all season long THIS YEAR, but as long as you're bringing up last year, I'll bite. Prep had injuries for that final game against Southington, it's the nature of their very tough schedule (played two OOC games against FCIAC teams and their grueling SCC schedule), and Southington came in smelling like a rose (no pun intended). Earlier that season Prep put 33 points on the board against Glastonbury, a team that Southington almost lost to. Prep also shut out Cheshire 26-0, and Southington beat Cheshire 33-6, similar scores. Tim Boyle looked great too in high school, but he had a great, great offensive line to protect him and had all the time in the world to protect him. How many times this year has Rose been sacked? My guess is zero.

I'm saying Rose could be a great player and Southington could be a great team, but I have some strong doubts.

First, these are LL schools, so please do not use injuries as an excuse when a team loses. Second, it is much more difficult to beat a team that you face yearly, then a team you may see in the playoffs. League opponents are much more familiar with what you do, then an OOL opponent. Glastonbury also gave Southington all they could handle in week 1 this year, then got spanked in the playoffs. Look, I have followed CTHSFB very closely for the last 20+ years, Southington deserves their #1 ranking. They got better as the season went on and they are better on both sides of the ball then they were last year. I wasn't overly impressed with either NC or Darien this year. Defensively, they are both very good, but at times their offenses sputtered. Southington was legit.
 
Hey guys, I thought this thread was for discussions about the recruitment of Jay Rose, not about which conference is the strongest or who has the best team in the state this year. That discussion belongs elsewhere. Believe me, there are plenty of those conversations going around on GameTimeCT and other sites. I think we all can agree that UConn needs a QB. Jay Rose is arguably the best QB in CT, and he's only a junior. His numbers are excellent, and they aren't against "cupcakes". Glastonbury, NB, and Hall may not be top 5 or 10 in the state, but they're pretty good teams that were made to look horrible by Rose & Co. This kid threw for approx. 3200 yds, missed the single season TD record by 3, has a 71% completion pct. and a 129 QBR. He had 9 interceptions the entire year- 3 in his first game of his varsity QB career. Watch him make his throws. He has touch and arm strength. He can make all of the throws. He looks defenders off, checks down his receivers. He just does things that you rarely see out of high school QB's, at least in this state. I'm not saying he's the next coming of Peyton Manning, but this kid can play QB at the next level. And he's getting looks now from D1 schools as a QB, not only TE. That was only going to take time because this is his first season as a varsity QB. I don't know who else UConn is recruiting at QB, but they may be missing the boat on this one.
 
Hey guys, I thought this thread was for discussions about the recruitment of Jay Rose, not about which conference is the strongest or who has the best team in the state this year. That discussion belongs elsewhere. Believe me, there are plenty of those conversations going around on GameTimeCT and other sites. I think we all can agree that UConn needs a QB. Jay Rose is arguably the best QB in CT, and he's only a junior. His numbers are excellent, and they aren't against "cupcakes". Glastonbury, NB, and Hall may not be top 5 or 10 in the state, but they're pretty good teams that were made to look horrible by Rose & Co. This kid threw for approx. 3200 yds, missed the single season TD record by 3, has a 71% completion pct. and a 129 QBR. He had 9 interceptions the entire year- 3 in his first game of his varsity QB career. Watch him make his throws. He has touch and arm strength. He can make all of the throws. He looks defenders off, checks down his receivers. He just does things that you rarely see out of high school QB's, at least in this state. I'm not saying he's the next coming of Peyton Manning, but this kid can play QB at the next level. And he's getting looks now from D1 schools as a QB, not only TE. That was only going to take time because this is his first season as a varsity QB. I don't know who else UConn is recruiting at QB, but they may be missing the boat on this one.

No disrespect but we were told we were missing the boat when Boyle committed to BC as a 3* recruit and a Florida offer.

I have NOT seen Jay play to be honest but if he can make all the throws, looks defenders off, checks down his receivers, has touch and arm strength and does things rarely seen out of a HS QB what is your analogy of why he is NOT rated as a recruit on the services sites and is shown as a TE-Y as opposed as a QB recruit? That makes no sense to me if he shows the intangibles you speak of.

He does show an offer from BC and UConn, so good for him.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/198289/jasen-rose

I would assume he will be the QB at Southington next year as well and maybe his position will change on the recruiting services and hope he is our next DO!
 
Very valid point/concern Bonehead, especially in light of what we have seen from Boyle so far. I'll try to hit your points.

I think we've all seen a bunch of HS football and I just can't help noticing all of these HS QB's just staring down one receiver and throwing to him, only to have it picked off by a defender who was watching the QB's eyes. Or a kid who just can't get the ball to his receiver unless he's WIDE open. Or who can't hit the long ball. This kid has presence. He doesn't get nervous in the pocket. He's not afraid to take a hit. And he's accurate. Yes, we've heard the same about Boyle. And I'm certainly not a college football coach. But I just see something different out of him than what you normally see from CT QB's. I don't know, maybe it's just hope on my part.

The services show him as a TE, because that's what he played last year on varsity as a sophomore. He's always been a QB and he played QB on Southington's JV team. But last year he was playing behind Stephen Barmore, who went off to play at Yale. Rose was Barmore's TE and he's pretty good there, too. Good enough to get D1 offers after just one season at TE. This is Rose's first season as a HS varsity QB and look at what he's done. He's arguably the best QB in the state right now. I think you'll be seeing a change in position on the recruiting services.

Yes, he does have offers from BC and UConn. He also has one from West Virginia. All for TE. I also know of three other schools that are recruiting him, one for QB, one for QB/TE and not sure if the third is looking for QB or TE. All three are D1 schools, two from the P5 conferences. I'm happy and hate to say that I think there will be much more interest and more offers coming after his performance this season. Happy for the kid, but hate it cuz I'd love to see him play at UConn. Remember, he's just a junior. He's got another season to go.
 
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. Yes, he does have offers from BC and UConn. He also has one from West Virginia. All for TE. I also know of three other schools that are recruiting him, one for QB, one for QB/TE and not sure if the third is looking for QB or TE. All three are D1 schools, two from the P5 conferences. I'm happy and hate to say that I think there will be much more interest and more offers coming after his performance this season. Happy for the kid, but hate it cuz I'd love to see him play at UConn. Remember, he's just a junior. He's got another season to go.

Blue - Just trying to put your comments in context - I'm curious... family/family friend/coach?

As you point out - conversations and position of interest can change a lot in a year. I'm just happy UConn knows where he is...
 
Blue - Just trying to put your comments in context - I'm curious... family/family friend/coach?

As you point out - conversations and position of interest can change a lot in a year. I'm just happy UConn knows where he is...


Family friend. And yes, I am somewhat biased towards this kid...sort of. I'm not a football coach, but I have watched a lot of HS football (I know, sounds like the Holiday Inn Express commercial, lol). But it doesn't take an NFL or college coach to see some things that he shows on the field, when comparing him to other CT QB's we've seen this year. Yes, this is CT, not FL or TX.

I'm excited for the family and, yet, trying to keep things in perspective. But I really think he can play QB at the next level. I've been a season ticket holder for many years as have many of you. I'd love to see him play at Rentschler. But the UConn staff knows evaluating football players MUCH better than I do.
 
I see him as a tight end at next level. Athletic kid.

huskysupporter- I see him as a QB, but certainly couldn't argue against your opinion. He is an athletic kid and if he plays TE at the next level, I think he'll be successful there as well. Either way, I think he would help UConn anyway.
 
I see him as a tight end at next level. Athletic kid.

huskysupporter- I see him as a QB, but certainly couldn't argue against your opinion. He is an athletic kid and if he plays TE at the next level, I think he'll be successful there as well. Either way, I think he would help UConn anyway.

How about we compromise and call him a triple threat TE
 
I'm good with that. I'm not arguing. TE or QB, I think he'd be a pretty good fit. Now, whether they get him may be another story. Regardless of who they get at QB, I think we'll all agree they need one and the future at that position isn't on the roster right now.
 
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