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Wow, one game in and ESPN has already made me sick of Ben Simmons

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CardiacAndre7 said:
Upgraded version of Kyle Anderson?
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Yup. Kid's gonna be ridiculously good.

I've never really been a Celtics fan, but I'll front-run like a son of a b**** if they get this kid.

James said:
Simmons plays like Boris diaw IMO .doesnt possess generational athletcism ( young diaw had hops and played pg for the hawks).
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37 inch no-step vertical and a lightning quick second jump.

I guess you're right in that he's not LeBron-esque, but he looks more like an NBA player than any other college kid I've seen this year.
 
I keep seeing the KD comparison and just don't see it. Kid is obviously great but without an elite jumper (yet) how can you make that comparison? I like the Lamar Odom comparison in style of game but with a much higher ceiling.
 
FartMan69 said:
I keep seeing the KD comparison and just don't see it. Kid is obviously great but without an elite jumper (yet) how can you make that comparison? I like the Lamar Odom comparison in style of game but with a much higher ceiling.
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where have you read a KD comparison? The general consensus is that he's a Lamar Odom type, I've never seen any Durant mentions.
 
aceboon said:
where have you read a KD comparison? The general consensus is that he's a Lamar Odom type, I've never seen any Durant mentions.
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IIRC somebody on the ESPNU season preview show. Basically because of the size, length and ball handling ability at such a young age. Also said he's the most NBA ready prospect since KD which is the only point I'd agree on, the rest was just classic ESPN fluffer material.
 
NDakotaHusky said:
I watched an interview with him. Like many before him, Simmons declared he can play all 5 positions. He is position less.
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Not impressed until he can play all 5 at the same time.

But really, he is a phenomenal talent and if he stays healthy will be very very good at the next level. I hope he dominates in the Kentucky game.
 
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NDakotaHusky said:
I always struggle with the all 5 position claim. I'm not sure anyone has been able to play all 5 positions. You need to be able to guard all 5 positions to make this claim.

Maybe Lebron...maybe
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I wasn't a big NBA fan at the time but when Magic Johnson stepped in to play center in the playoffs many years ago it turned a few heads. At the time, a 6-9 point guard was like ....................what ? Incredible talent.
 
FartMan69 said:
IIRC somebody on the ESPNU season preview show. Basically because of the size, length and ball handling ability at such a young age. Also said he's the most NBA ready prospect since KD which is the only point I'd agree on, the rest was just classic ESPN fluffer material.
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I haven't seen Simmons play yet, but he's more NBA ready than Anthony Davis was?
 
FartMan69 said:
IIRC somebody on the ESPNU season preview show. Basically because of the size, length and ball handling ability at such a young age. Also said he's the most NBA ready prospect since KD which is the only point I'd agree on, the rest was just classic ESPN fluffer material.
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lol, so one nameless dude? Ok...
 
I've only seen one game against an overmatched opponent, but he looked pretty spectacular yesterday. I don't think he struggled at anything. He's going to need to extend his shooting range, but other than that, there's nothing missing.
 
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dennismenace said:
I wasn't a big NBA fan at the time but when Magic Johnson stepped in to play center in the playoffs many years ago it turned a few heads. At the time, a 6-9 point guard was like .....what ? Incredible talent.
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This story has sort of evolved over time, and bear in mind that I'm not bashing Magic here. I think he's one of the 5 greatest players ever, and easily the best PG, but:

1) He didn't really play center that game. He jumped the opening tip, and then spent the rest of the game guarding Bobby Jones or Dr. J. Chones & Landsberger guarded Dawkins
2) He didn't really become a fulltime PG until 82/83. Prior to that year Norm Nixon was the primary ball handler, while Magic was kind of in the role that we saw Daniel Hamilton play for us against Maine (and hopefully henceforth)

Rico444 said:
I haven't seen Simmons play yet, but he's more NBA ready than Anthony Davis was?
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He's a more polished all-around player at the same point in their respective careers. Davis's once-a-decade length and athleticism made him more of a sure thing, though.

With Simmons, I could see a scenario in which he's not quite quick enough to guard 3s, not big, strong & long enough to guard 4s, and becomes the centerpiece of a team that tops out as "very good" instead of "elite." Very good because he's a phenomenal offensive talent and rebounder; not elite because I think you can maaaaaybe game-plan directly at him on the other end. Sort of like Carmelo.

We obviously need to see much more before we know for real, but he's a phenomenal talent.
 
Matrim55 said:
This story has sort of evolved over time, and bear in mind that I'm not bashing Magic here. I think he's one of the 5 greatest players ever, and easily the best PG, but:

1) He didn't really play center that game. He jumped the opening tip, and then spent the rest of the game guarding Bobby Jones or Dr. J. Chones & Landsberger guarded Dawkins
2) He didn't really become a fulltime PG until 82/83. Prior to that year Norm Nixon was the primary ball handler, while Magic was kind of in the role that we saw Daniel Hamilton play for us against Maine (and hopefully henceforth)


Good points. The point I was trying to really make was that outside of Lebron I could not think of anyone who had the athleticism and size to do this other than Johnson or at least better than Johnson. While he did play point guard later as you said he did in fact play it and well. At 6-8 or 6-9 with that athleticism (and attitude) I have no doubt that he had the capacity to play
the front court positions. Not great at them perhaps but certainly capable, especially with the money on the table. I think it was really unheard of at that time, something you think you are never going to see again and then...........along comes Lebron!
What's next?!!!
Thanks for the history lesson!
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I think what everyone remembers is he jumped center and then hit the game winner with a center-esque baby sky hook in the post. So even if he sold popcorn the other 47 minutes Magic began and ended the game at Center.
 
Simmons put up some pretty solid numbers in a loss to Marquette. I only saw the last play.
 
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NDakotaHusky said:
Simmons put up some pretty solid numbers in a loss to Marquette. I only saw the last play.
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I watched most of the game. Even with the numbers he put up, he almost seems too willing to defer to teammates, if that seems possible. It bit them on the final play.
 
hes the real deal
just needs to be told he is the man and to react like he is the man
great body great moves and a scoring machine - oh yeah - he can bound the ball too
 
From what little I've seen, I agree he needs to be more aggressive. When LSU clears out and lets him attack one on one it's scary.

Meanwhile, I'm not sure how they lost to a Marquette team that had been pretty bad to that point. Johnny Jones is a real question mark.
 
I started watching the game with about 5 min left and i kid you not the announcers mentioned Simmons by name or referred to "him" roughly 30 times!!! He wasnt involved in some plays and they still mentioned him somehow effecting the play lol! Great talent but BSPN is nauseating!
 
Some of you need to stop letting ESPN influence you so much.

Simmons is a fun player to watch, and by all accounts a good kid. It shouldn't be that hard to ignore the over-the-top media hype if you want to.
 
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Simmons is going to be the #1 pick in the 2016 NBA draft and its not even going to be close. He deserves the hype and praise he is getting will be a future NBA allstar
 
I was watching last night, incredible mobility for a guy his size. Reminds me of Lamar Odom when he was at URI. All I saw was him taking it to the hoop(which was basically unstoppable). Can he shoot? Also his D could be better. Seems like the Marquette bigs dominated and you might think the mobile 6'10 guy might have something to say about that.
 
Some kids are simply gifted and made for basketball. He appears that way. I can't say he is a "man among boys' type like some of the other freshman college players (e.g. Chris Webber). But he appears to be the best player on the court in the games I have watched.

He's one and done, because he is just too good to stay in school.
 
Listening to Mike and Mike this morning and they had a question for Love It or Shove It. Bubba asked if Andre Drummond is the player under 24 or so that you want to build a team around. Golic said that is false and offered up Porzingis as his pick. Greeny also said that was false and chose BEN SIMMONS, Ben freaking Simmons. A College freshman who has only played in 3-4 games so far, IN COLLEGE..........
 
BleedHuskyBlu said:
Simmons is going to be the #1 pick in the 2016 NBA draft and its not even going to be close. He deserves the hype and praise he is getting will be a future NBA allstar
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I agree he definitely deserves the hype, unbelievable talent. But as said above it's not "hype" it's a damn circle jerk by the whole crew at BSPN. Hard to ignore, but in the end who cares.
 
Minicoop69 said:
Listening to Mike and Mike this morning and they had a question for Love It or Shove It. Bubba asked if Andre Drummond is the player under 24 or so that you want to build a team around. Golic said that is false and offered up Porzingis as his pick. Greeny also said that was false and chose BEN SIMMONS, Ben freaking Simmons. A College freshman who has only played in 3-4 games so far, IN COLLEGE.....
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Hate to say it but Greeny might be right. ;)
 
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