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WNBA Final Sun vs Mystic, who you got?

Waquoit said:
What's to say? The better team won. Silly post from you.
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Waquoit said:
What's to say? The better team won. Silly post from you.
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EDD scored 13 with 6 rebounds, all with a herniated disc in her back, mask over her previously broken nose, and with a brace on her leg. And you call her a phony. And my post is silly? I think there are still some people on this board who can't accept that she has become one of the very best players in the world without having played for Geno.
 
2 major points:
1. I joked in another thread that EDD was trying to be Willis Reed in the 1970 NBA Finals vs LA Lakers and she came through and gave her team the extra energy to play a passionate game!
2. Here is the perfect example of the Mystics having "BEEN THERE BEFORE" in last years Final and the Sun Being young and clueless!
It never ceases to amazing me how sport teams can play at their highest level one game then play as lousy as the Sun did yesterday! The game was over when EDD walked to center court for the tip and at the 5 miute mark of the 1st period! Later CT runs weren't going to be enough!

ps- - -I guess the theory posted above that EDD "tapped out" in game 2 is garbage! EDD walked the walk and talked the talk yesterday! CP3 in LA would have been on the trainer's table for 5 hours as her team went out to play the game!
 
RSHERMVIKES said:
2 major points:
1. I joked in another thread that EDD was trying to be Willis Reed in the 1970 NBA Finals vs LA Lakers and she came through and gave her team the extra energy to play a passionate game!
2. Here is the perfect example of the Mystics having "BEEN THERE BEFORE" in last years Final and the Sun Being young and clueless!
It never ceases to amazing me how sport teams can play at their highest level one game then play as lousy as the Sun did yesterday! The game was over when EDD walked to center court for the tip and at the 5 miute mark of the 1st period! Later CT runs weren't going to be enough!

ps- - -I guess the theory posted above that EDD "tapped out" in game 2 is garbage! EDD walked the walk and talked the talk yesterday! CP3 in LA would have been on the trainer's table for 5 hours as her team went out to play the game!
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I think the narrative that CT 'stunk' is too simplistic. After falling behind by 15 early on 3 point shooting that normally only occurs in video games, the Sun cut the lead to 2 (4 at half). When a team shoots so well from 3 pt line and all 5 players are deep threats (except for Saunders although she is money from 15 ft) as well as talented drivers, it distorts your normal defense

I give the Mystics full credit. They are the better team structurally imho (no shame in that) and if they play their A (or even their B+game), they will not even need to go back to DC.
 
Don't count the Sun out just yet. Williams and Jones were no shows. Think that happens in game 4? Also when you shoot 16-27 from deep, it's gonna be hard to make it even close. Sun only lost by 13. Shoot a normal 12-27 from beyond the arc and it's a 1-point game...
 
It seems really strange to me to be harping on EDD's injury history...when she's still appearing in games...given that there were a handful of UConn players that missed all or most of this last season. This is the 2nd season Bird has missed in its entirety. Taurasi has missed the majority of 2 seasons and elected to sit out another year. Is it somehow different when UConn players are injured than when players from other schools are injured?

Oh yeah, then there's Moriah Jefferson. Now that's a player who can't seem to get or stay healthy. Has appeared in 37 games over 3 years since her rookie season.
 
eebmg said:
I think the narrative that CT 'stunk' is too simplistic. After falling behind by 15 early on 3 point shooting that normally only occurs in video games, the Sun cut the lead to 2 (4 at half). When a team shoots so well from 3 pt line and all 5 players are deep threats (except for Saunders although she is money from 15 ft) as well as talented drivers, it distorts your normal defense

I give the Mystics full credit. They are the better team structurally imho (no shame in that) and if they play their A (or even their B+game), they will not even need to go back to DC.
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the only way they don't go back to DC is if they lose.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
It seems really strange to me to be harping on EDD's injury history...when she's still appearing in games...given that there were a handful of UConn players that missed all or most of this last season. This is the 2nd season Bird has missed in its entirety. Taurasi has missed the majority of 2 seasons and elected to sit out another year. Is it somehow different when UConn players are injured than when players from other schools are injured?

Oh yeah, then there's Moriah Jefferson. Now that's a player who can't seem to get or stay healthy. Has appeared in 37 games over 3 years since her rookie season.
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Bird/Taurasi have played in the league for 15+ years.

EDD's injuries have been unique without tangible timelines compared to your standard ACL/broken bone type. Lymes disease, bone bruise, back spasms, a thumb injury, etc. She's been the only one as far as I can tell to have these injuries. Most of these injuries can be quite minor or quite significant depending on the severity of it. Reading between the lines, I think a lot of fans interpret this and other factors as not showing that she has that drive to win/be on the court at all costs.

To add to this, she also has never played year round as a pro, quit basketball altogether for a year in college before playing a program that was far beneath her abilities and forced a trade in the pros citing she lost passion playing basketball on the Sky. Combining her history of up and down passion for the sport along with several injuries that all have unknown severities, people question the severity of of them, fair or not. I understand the argument, but based on how she played yesterday I don't doubt the spasms are quite real and painful. My guess is that EDD is more injury prone than your average player and for whatever reason, probably just bad luck, they happen at really inopportune times.
 
In my new found love for all things Meesseman, I found this fantastic article
on Emma from a tactical perspective and how she helped dismantle Las Vegas and more importantly, Lambeer and Cambage


www.sbnation.com

Emma Meesseman was always the Mystics’ secret weapon

The Mystics big used her unique skill set to break the Aces, then shut down the Sun the old-fashioned way.
www.sbnation.com www.sbnation.com
 
I like the Mystics tomorrow night (thanks waquiot). Head coach Mike Thibault finally gets his first chip. :cool:
 
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bballnut90 said:
Bird/Taurasi have played in the league for 15+ years.
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Yes, of course the longer you play the greater the chance of injures. Taurasi played 8 games in 2012, her 9th season in the league. EDD has now been in the league 7 years, only significant time she's missed was in her 2nd season when she played in 16 games. She's never played all 34 games in a season, but only once has missed a large portion of the season.

bballnut90 said:
and forced a trade in the pros citing she lost passion playing basketball on the Sky.
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W/ Tina Charles, Big Syl and Chiney all doing something similar, that seems like a non-issue to me.
 
boontonbomber said:
EDD scored 13 with 6 rebounds, all with a herniated disc in her back, mask over her previously broken nose, and with a brace on her leg. And you call her a phony. And my post is silly?
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I think it's silly to call out a fan for not posting right away after his team just got beat. She clomped around OK for a little bit but her team didn't miss any shots early and scored 29 1Q points without her.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Yes, of course the longer you play the greater the chance of injures. Taurasi played 8 games in 2012, her 9th season in the league. EDD has now been in the league 7 years, only significant time she's missed was in her 2nd season when she played in 16 games. She's never played all 34 games in a season, but only once has missed a large portion of the season.



W/ Tina Charles, Big Syl and Chiney all doing something similar, that seems like a non-issue to me.
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Forcing a trade to a specific team or refusing to play is just a bad look in general. I get that players have their individual preferences and needs, but when it leaves their original team (and teammates/coaching staff) it comes off as a really selfish move IMO. Just because other players have done this doesn't make it a non-issue in my book.

And Taurasi and Bird have played year round for most of their career. I dont think either missed any time until they were 30+. This is the 4th time in 7 seasons that EDD has had an injury in the playoffs or right before the playoffs. Probably just a string of bad luck but it's far more than any other star player I can think of in any sport.
 
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bballnut90 said:
Forcing a trade to a specific team or refusing to play is just a bad look in general. I get that players have their individual preferences and needs, but when it leaves their original team (and teammates/coaching staff) it comes off as a really selfish move IMO. Just because other players have done this doesn't make it a non-issue in my book.
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Okay, maybe not non-issue. But since several other players have done it there's no reason to single out EDD for it.
 
I just can't get past EDD's game. I want that jump shot. I want those counter moves. I want to be 6'5". Did I mention I want to shoot like that? I can't even remember anything that happened off the court. Did we talk about the jump shot yet? I want that jump shot.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Okay, maybe not non-issue. But since several other players have done it there's no reason to single out EDD for it.
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I'm not--it's being used as one example in many instances to show how basketball hasnt always appeared to be a top priority for her.
 
Carnac said:
I guess. I have no idea where the Apple sauce reference came from, although I do like it.
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Carnac always called someone "fill-in-the-blank breath" (for a laugh) every time he did the bit, it seemed.
And when you came along picking against the home team but getting the day wrong I saw a chance to turn the tables. Applesauce just popped into my head and I went with it cause it seemed a bit funny without being too mean.
 
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Waquoit said:
Carnac always called someone "fill-in-the-blank breath" (for a laugh) every time he did the bit, it seemed.
And when you came along picking against the home team but getting the day wrong I saw a chance to turn the tables. Applesauce just popped into my head and I went with it cause it seemed a bit funny without being too mean.
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I either wasnt born or was too young to watch the Tonight Show for most of its run..... but the Carnac segments were my favorites when I was old enough to watch.
 
Waquoit said:
Carnac always called someone "fill-in-the-blank breath" (for a laugh) every time he did the bit, it seemed.
And when you came along picking against the home team but getting the day wrong I saw a chance to turn the tables. Applesauce just popped into my head and I went with it cause it seemed a bit funny without being too mean.
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Now that you mentioned it, I remember that. He aimed all of those arrows at his straight man, Ed McMahon. Good one. :p
 
triaddukefan said:
I either wasnt born or was too young to watch the Tonight Show for most of its run..... but the Carnac segments were my favorites when I was old enough to watch.
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Johnny Carson’s final tonight show was May 22, 1992. He had no guests that night.
 
Ironically, EDD was definitely moving better this game and could do more inside actions. I expect a monster game from her on Thursday.
 
triaddukefan said:
I either wasnt born or was too young to watch the Tonight Show for most of its run..... but the Carnac segments were my favorites when I was old enough to watch.
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Carson had a number of characters he portrayed. They were all part of the “Mighty Carson Art Players.” Carnac the magnificent was among that group.
 
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