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It’s spreading in China because it’s literally the most unsanitary place in the world. They stuff millions of people into a 5 story apartment complex and call it “efficient”. Why do you think every big virus starts there?

NCAA Tournament will be played with spectators. This is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.
 
gtcam said:
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How is that a political comment? The Vice President made a statement that he repeated here. What's so political about that? You guys really need to lighten up.
 
CTBasketball said:
It’s spreading in China because it’s literally the most unsanitary place in the world. They stuff millions of people into a 5 story apartment complex and call it “efficient”. Why do you think every big virus starts there?

NCAA Tournament will be played with spectators. This is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.
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You heard it here first. Murica don't get no viruses.
 
Leebo said:
Listening to some people you'd think every person who died was 80 and already about to die from something else. Obviously those people are going to be the most susceptible, as you would expect, but it's not 100% of the deaths that are like that.
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See huskymedic info above. It’s fairly minuscule. The data makes sense because a severe respiratory disease places enormous stress on the cardiovascular system.
 
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BlueDogs said:
See huskymedic info above. It’s fairly minuscule. The data makes sense because a severe respiratory disease places enormous stress on the cardiovascular system.
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The message you quoted was a reply to that post. How does it compare to the flu? The huskymedic post was a response to my post about how people are saying the flu is just as bad or worse to get.
 
weyuo said:
How is that a political comment? The Vice President made a statement that he repeated here. What's so political about that? You guys really need to lighten up.
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You're asking why quoting the vice president is political? Wow
 
gtcam said:
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Hardly political...we don't need leaders (like Pence) saying all is under control when serious testing has only ramped up the last couple days....just the facts please.

The truth is nobody knows the severity of the spread in the US yet. We'll hopefully know alot more in a week if we have ten+ thousand tests done not just hundreds.
 
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Just learned today that two high school students from the town next to mine have tested positive. School had a senior class trip to Italy, which is very hard hit. A school in Pawtucket also went to Italy and a teacher tested positive. That school is shut for two weeks with online only classes.

It's coming folks.
 
Not to worry the NCAA is working on a plan as we speak:

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methodology said:
The death rate might even be lower than reported because cases are under reported at this point in time. SARS and MERS were much more deadly.

Precautions should still be taken but as has been said this might be more in line with the flu
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It might be, but it's already killed more people than SARS and MERS combined.
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
At least 30 flu deaths IN CONNECTICUT this season.
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And that's with a vaccine that a large portion of the population gets.

People in good health should be fine if they were to get
Leebo said:
The message you quoted was a reply to that post. How does it compare to the flu? The huskymedic post was a response to my post about how people are saying the flu is just as bad or worse to get.
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Its difficult to get an accurate death rate because cases are severely under reported right now. Theres people who probably had Coronavirus, got sick as you would the flu, never got tested and got better without seeking any medical help.

So as of right now the death rate is 2% vs the flu usually around 0.1% in the USA.

But with cases under reported that 2% would be a lot lower.

www.livescience.com

How does the new coronavirus compare with the flu?

Research so far indicates that COVID-19 spreads more easily and has a higher death rate than the flu.
www.livescience.com www.livescience.com

For instance, in Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%. In addition, older adults have been hit the hardest. The death rate soars to 14.8% in those 80 and older; among those ages 70 to 79, the COVID-19 death rate in China seems to be about 8%; it’s 3.6% for those ages 60 to 69; 1.3% for 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. Nobody 9 and under has died of this coronavirus to date
 
tzznandrew said:
It might be, but it's already killed more people than SARS and MERS combined.
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That means absolutely nothing. Death rate is the key number

CFR stands for case fatality rate

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Study of 72,000 COVID-19 patients finds 2.3% death rate

www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu

In comparison to SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) coronaviruses, which were both identified in the past 20 years, COVID-19 is likely more highly transmissible but not as deadly, the researchers noted. (SARS had a CFR of 9.6%; MERS has a CFR of 34.4%.) And unlike SARS and MERS, hospital-based outbreaks do not seem to be hallmark of COVID-19 at this time.
 
methodology said:
That means absolutely nothing. Death rate is the key number

CFR stands for case fatality rate

www.cidrap.umn.edu

Study of 72,000 COVID-19 patients finds 2.3% death rate

www.cidrap.umn.edu www.cidrap.umn.edu

In comparison to SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome) coronaviruses, which were both identified in the past 20 years, COVID-19 is likely more highly transmissible but not as deadly, the researchers noted. (SARS had a CFR of 9.6%; MERS has a CFR of 34.4%.) And unlike SARS and MERS, hospital-based outbreaks do not seem to be hallmark of COVID-19 at this time.
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Since the goal is reduction of deaths in general, the transmissible rate is VERY relevant to the broad discussion. You may be right about the specifically defined term "deadliness" or CFR, but a colloquial sense of "how likely am I to be killed by this outbreak at large", the two factors both need to be considered.
 
auror said:
Since the goal is reduction of deaths in general, the transmissible rate is VERY relevant to the broad discussion. You may be right about the specifically defined term "deadliness" or CFR, but a colloquial sense of "how likely am I to be killed by this outbreak at large", the two factors both need to be considered.
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It seems it's spread very similar to the flu. Gotta wash your hands frequently and avoid people sneezing and coughing.

The issue I have is people over reacting as if you will die if you get it. That's not the case and it's nowhere close to SARS or MERS for death rate
 
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methodology said:
It seems it's spread very similar to the flu. Gotta wash your hands frequently and avoid people sneezing and coughing.

The issue I have is people over reacting as if you will die if you get it. That's not the case and it's nowhere close to SARS or MERS for death rate
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Avoiding people who are sneezing and coughing is advised, but it's just not that simple. Many people don't have symptoms yet but are highly contagious and unknowingly spreading it. Also, this virus seems to live on surfaces for a decent amount of time. It's not that you WILL die, it's that you CAN die. I have health issues including pulmonary/lung issues so it's at least a little concerning. My wife works for a home health care nursing company. That's a bit concerning to me. If you are young and healthy, congrats. Do you have parents that are older though? Grandparents? Does your wife have parents? Do you love someone with health issues? Basically there is a happy medium somewhere between being dismissive and panic. They are both equally stupid.
 
If they just ban elderly persons who have a medical condition, you could fill the place and feel safe.
 
Palatine said:
If they just ban elderly persons who have a medical condition, you could fill the place and feel safe.
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It will still spread at the games and then the young people who get it will go somewhere else with elderly or at risk people and unknowingly give it to them. This is why large gathering events are being curtailed or outright cancelled in some countries. It's a chain reaction of events that cause it to spread. If this gets really bad, arrogance and people generally being irresponsible will be one of the main reasons why.
 
Someone suggested that Covid-19 is being under reported because many have mild or no symptoms and never seek treatment or get tested. Can't the same be said for the flu? It just went through my house. One of my daughters got tested and was positive. When my other daughter and wife came down with the same mild symptoms, they never went to the doctor. So, only 1 of 3 cases was reported in my home.
 
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ConnEd said:
Someone suggested that Covid-19 is being under reported because many have mild or no symptoms and never seek treatment or get tested. Can't the same be said for the flu? It just went through my house. One of my daughters got tested and was positive. When my other daughter and wife came down with the same mild symptoms, they never went to the doctor. So, only 1 of 3 cases was reported in my home.
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It's a fair point, but I think enough studies have been done on the flu/influenza strains over the year that the data is pretty solid. That being said, the rates do change based on the flu strains that are popular in a given year.
 
huskymedic said:
I’m guessing “young” and “healthy” are relative terms:

Age of Coronavirus Deaths
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

AGE​
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases		DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old​
21.9%​
14.8%​
70-79 years old​
​
8.0%​
60-69 years old​
​
3.6%​
50-59 years old​
​
1.3%​
40-49 years old​
​
0.4%​
30-39 years old​
​
0.2%​
20-29 years old​
​
0.2%​
10-19 years old​
​
0.2%​
0-9 years old
​
no fatalities​

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by COMORBIDITY:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on pre-existing condition. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by pre-existing condition. Rather, it represents, for a patient with a given pre-existing condition, the risk of dying if infected by COVID-19.

PRE-EXISTING CONDITION​
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases		DEATH RATE
all cases
Cardiovascular disease​
13.2%​
10.5%​
Diabetes​
9.2%​
7.3%​
Chronic respiratory disease​
8.0%​
6.3%​
Hypertension​
8.4%​
6.0%​
Cancer​
7.6%​
5.6%​
no pre-existing conditions ​
​
0.9%​
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). The percentages do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by condition.

Another view: Who Is Most Susceptible to the New Coronavirus?
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Looks like the numbers bear out that the Women's Tourney is in serious jeopardy.
 
RF79 said:
How many deaths did it take to shut down the most populated continent in the world? Or 13 million school children in Japan? I don’t see it happening
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The US now has as many deaths as Japan.
 
UCfor3 said:
Avoiding people who are sneezing and coughing is advised, but it's just not that simple. Many people don't have symptoms yet but are highly contagious and unknowingly spreading it. Also, this virus seems to live on surfaces for a decent amount of time. It's not that you WILL die, it's that you CAN die. I have health issues including pulmonary/lung issues so it's at least a little concerning. My wife works for a home health care nursing company. That's a bit concerning to me. If you are young and healthy, congrats. Do you have parents that are older though? Grandparents? Does your wife have parents? Do you love someone with health issues? Basically there is a happy medium somewhere between being dismissive and panic. They are both equally stupid.
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The concerning part you mention is you can have it and show no symptoms for weeks but still be contagious. Kids also aren't affected that badly by it if they don't have an underlying health condition but can carry it and spread it without showing much more than a runny nose. If you've never had kids, they always have a runny nose.
 
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