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Wichita St. to AAC Next Year (Officially Official)

ConnHuskBask said:
What don't you understand about adding a team that a) nobody cares about b) in an area nobody lives in c) that's located halfway across the country.

I mean, hey, anytime you can the 3rd most popular program in Kansas in combination with the 3rd most popular program in Oklahoma you just gotta do it.
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Your takes in this thread are unbelievably stupid.
 
Slasher said:
Anyone worried about one more mouth to feed needs to realize how putrid the conference payout is. This is going to cost each school like $5ok. They'll more than make up for that if they make the NCAA tournament once in the next six years.
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Exactly. We are screwed either way in terms of payout. An extra 200k is going to save the program?

The fact that we in a conference where Wichita State is an upgrade is very depressing but that doesn't change that Wichita State is an upgrade.
 
gtcam said:
I would much prefer not be affiliated with a school being floated by the Koch brothers.

OMG JSMH
But if it were George Soros?????
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Lol
 
Penning in...2 more losses right there. Head bang
 
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superjohn said:
Your takes in this thread are unbelievably stupid.
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1) In the past 40 years Wichita State has made 4 Sweet 16s.
2) They play in a nothing market.
3) They have the 3rd least following in a state with around 500,000 less people than Connecticut.
4) They are a bad academic fit.
5) They are halfway across the country from UConn.

They only benefits?
1) Gregg Marshall.

You want to add a program to our already garbage conference of misfits based on the fact they could be good at basketball the next few seasons.

It's a completely short sighted add, right up there in stupidity next to Tulane, Tulsa and East Carolina.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
The University of Connecticut and Wichita State University in the same conference.

Unbelievable.
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Also add East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane to that list. We played ECU in a Christmas tournament in Storrs my junior year at UCONN. I had never heard of the school prior to then.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
1) In the past 40 years Wichita State has made 4 Sweet 16s.
2) They play in a nothing market.
3) They have the 3rd least following in a state with around 500,000 less people than Connecticut.
4) They are a bad academic fit.
5) They are halfway across the country from UConn.

They only benefits?
1) Gregg Marshall.

You want to add a program to our already garbage conference of misfits based on the fact they could be good at basketball the next few seasons.

It's a completely short sighted add, right up there in stupidity next to Tulane, Tulsa and East Carolina.
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If they stay a top 25 program for most of the next decade it's a good deal. As a worst case scenario, we can cut the dead weight when the Big XII implodes by joining up with their leftovers in the Big XII or a totally new conference.
 
KSC94 said:
The NCAA tournament win-shares from adding Wichita surely outweight the 1/11 of the pennies we lose in cutting a non-football school into the TV deal, no?
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My guess is they will only share BB revenue, not FB revenue. I guess it means Aresco is now determined to convert the AAC into the Old Big East II, and we all know what a disaster that ultimately became.
 
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UC1995 said:
The Frankenstein conference is continuing its journey. No longer about good academic schools... no longer about markets... no longer about improving the football side to get a bigger contract heading forward. This only looks good on paper.
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Looks good on paper? Toilet paper, maybe.
 
I doubt we will have home and homes with WSU, SMU (or AMY), Houston or any other school that will be in the west (Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis). A large part of this is to have two six school divisions. Logically WSU will have the same role in hoops that Navy had in football (sixth western division member).
 
ConnHuskBask said:
1) In the past 40 years Wichita State has made 4 Sweet 16s.
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Or....they've made 3 Sweet 16s in the past 11 years.

I love when people use easy-to-spot manipulations of data. Way too easy... :eek:

EDIT: They've also made the round of 32 in the last 5 consecutive years. But you know...that doesn't help your story...
 
KSC94 said:
The NCAA tournament win-shares from adding Wichita surely outweight the 1/11 of the pennies we lose in cutting a non-football school into the TV deal, no?
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Sad to say, our contract is so pitiful, this is seriously the case.

Cincy and SMU combined brought UConn an estimated $450K for the three games they appeared in. If WSU makes it to the sweet sixteen, that's about $455K to UConn, an EE is $610K and a FF is about $715K.

If my math is correct, current deal is $126 mill over 7 years, or $18 mill per year to the AAC. Divided by 11 schools, that's about $1.63 mill each. Divided by 12 schools, that's about $1.5 mill each, although I'd guess WSU wouldn't get a full cut anyway. So at most it costs UConn $130K per year - or less than one measly NCAA tournament win credit.
 
Chely's Home said:
Dayton
Vcu
i can see them adding these schools if this works out, and if the programs maintain success with their new coaches
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Really? The A-10 is better than the AAC, come on. Our top seed in the NCAA Tournament since Louisville left, is a 5, and this year we had 2 teams that were 59-9 combined and could get no better than a 6 seed. They proved to be seeded to high, as both exited prematurely.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
This means 3 ranked teams and if uconn get healthy and situated 4. Means more teams in the tourney.
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I'd like to think that it means more teams in the tourney, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. There is no way the Power 5 members on the committee are going to allow the AAC to get more teams in the tourney. WSU will just be taking a spot from someone else. The AAC regular season and tourney champ with 4 losses and on a huge win streak got a 6 seed for crying out loud. Just the way it is in a mid-major conference.
 
UConnNick said:
My guess is they will only share BB revenue, not FB revenue. I guess it means Aresco is now determined to convert the AAC into the Old Big East II, and we all know what a disaster that ultimately became.
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It offsets Navy which is only a football member
 
UConnDan97 said:
Or....they've made 3 Sweet 16s in the past 11 years.

I love when people use easy-to-spot manipulations of data. Way too easy... :eek:

EDIT: They've also made the round of 32 in the last 5 consecutive years. But you know...that doesn't help your story...
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Dan, the point of my comment is that they have no history of success.

You're adding a permanent member to your athletic league based on the past 5+ years of running a successful program.

When UConn is sending it's all of its athletic programs to nowhere Kansas in 5 years to a Wichita State sans Gregg Marshall how good is this addition going to look?
 
After we drop football and join the A10 for olympic sports in 2025, we will look back fondly on those rivalry games with WSU.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Dan, the point of my comment is that they have no history of success.

You're adding a permanent member to your athletic league based on the past 5+ years of running a successful program.

When UConn is sending it's all of its athletic programs to nowhere Kansas in 5 years to a Wichita State sans Gregg Marshall how good is this addition going to look?
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We are already sending our athletic programs to Tulsa and Houston and Tulane.

They have no choice but to improve this basketball league. I have no idea why you are making such a big deal about this. The situation stinks and everyone knows it. Whether WSU stinks in 5 years if Marshall leaves is irrelevant. They are the best of bad options and instantly improve basketball next year.

Anyone who sat in Hartford for the AAC Tournaments in 2015 and 2017 knows how much the basketball league stinks. And the fact the champ both those years, SMU, bowed out Round 1 in the NCAA's proves it.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
Dan, the point of my comment is that they have no history of success.

You're adding a permanent member to your athletic league based on the past 5+ years of running a successful program.

When UConn is sending it's all of its athletic programs to nowhere Kansas in 5 years to a Wichita State sans Gregg Marshall how good is this addition going to look?
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How much time is required to show the "permanent" success of a program?

Is it since 2006, which Wichita State can show? Or is it 1990 like us? Or does it have to include someone in 1940 with shorts that look like Speedos?

For me, we are gaining a top 25 program into our conference; something that we desperately need for our RPI. There is minimal downside to the add. What little money they will cost the conference, they will easily make up in NCAA credits and the possibility of getting more teams in along with them from the conference. There is no reason to hate this move. We can hate the conference that we're stuck in, but this move undeniably makes the conference better...
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Dan, the point of my comment is that they have no history of success.

You're adding a permanent member to your athletic league based on the past 5+ years of running a successful program.

When UConn is sending it's all of its athletic programs to nowhere Kansas in 5 years to a Wichita State sans Gregg Marshall how good is this addition going to look?
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Yup, they have zero basketball history. Antoine Carr, Cliff Levingston, and Xavier McDaniel never existed. You are the only person on the planet who looks at the AAC as a bastion of higher learning and as for temporary fit, the entire conference is a temporary fit of mismatched schools. Adding the best available basketball school is basically the first good thing that's happened to this conference.
 
Yes, this is a SHORT TERM fix. The idea is that we are only in the AAC for the SHORT TERM, so we need to improve our standing in the SHORT TERM. That means more quality opponents, better wins, and higher seedings.

If we're in this crappy conference long term, then we're f-----.
 
superjohn said:
Yup, they have zero basketball history. Antoine Carr, Cliff Levingston, and Xavier McDaniel never existed. You are the only person on the planet who looks at the AAC as a bastion of higher learning and as for temporary fit, the entire conference is a temporary fit of mismatched schools. Adding the best available basketball school is basically the first good thing that's happened to this conference.
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They had 3 NBA journey men that played there 30 years ago? Wow!

Again, you keep saying temporary, but it's not temporary. This is our league and unless you know something we all don't I'd hesitate to think otherwise.

It'll be cool to play them over Tulane or ECU while they are ranked next season, I'm just concerned when it stops we'll have another albatross around our neck.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
They had 3 NBA journey men that played there 30 years ago? Wow!

Again, you keep saying temporary, but it's not temporary. This is our league and unless you know something we all don't I'd hesitate to think otherwise.

It'll be cool to play them over Tulane or ECU while they are ranked next season, I'm just concerned when it stops we'll have another albatross around our neck.
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The whole conference is a short term fix, you try and make it as palatable as possible while we are here.
 
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