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NickyNewark said:
That seems to be the difference between MBB and WBB....inexplicable results! The pool of WBB players is too shallow to have enough depth to produce more then a few dominant teams but saying that I still prefer it to the mens game because of the selfishness of it.But you are correct in that this yr theirs only 2 teams then the rest because Duke and to a lesser degree L'ville are very overrated. I hope their are better teams like RU floating under the radar as depth of competition makes everyone better.Have you seen the video of Sharita Parker from Va on youtube? Imagine RU's backcourt in 2 years? Maybe best all-time?
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Nicky hit the nail on the head. For whatever reason, young women are not encouraged to spend time on sports as much as are young men. Let's be honest here; we live in a culture that is still somewhat sexist and there is an attitude among many that women aren't as good at a lot of things. As the son of a feminist, I'll tell you that's a bunch of hogwash. Look at college graduation rates, etc.
 
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Phil said:
I was looking at the NCAA stats, and noticing which ones are correlated with success, and which ones not. The assists was, which seemed quite reasonable. I hadn't considered that it might be different for men. Sounds like fodder for a study.
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Phil- just a suggestion - if you are looking for stats that correlate with success- i'd start with "wins"! Then work down! xo
 
BigBird said:
In my case, the reason I became a UConn fan was the quality of play and coaching. I was a fan of women's sports long before. Having a soccer-player daughter can do that. :)

What amazes me is the chasm between the best 8 or ten womens' teams and the rest. The lack of fundamental skills and game situation awareness (BBIQ if you prefer) in the next 20 or so WCBB teams is absurd. The men's game is a much more even. Let me put it this way: An unranked MCBB team with a losing record can beat a top level team on a given day. Would anyone seriously think that someone below Sagarin's top 25 could beat Geno's team? Not I.
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I feel a lot of the evenness in the mens game is achieved simply because the best players leave early so you have a few teams at the top with absolutely mad talent, but little team chemistry because this is the first year they have played together and then you have a bunch of schools with good talent that has been around for three and four years and play a better team game especially on the defensive end. So you end up with inexperienced extreme talent playing against experienced lesser talent and you can get all variety of results.
On the women's side the extreme talent sticks around for 4 years and becomes experienced so the lesser teams do not have any advantage over the top teams.
 
I prefer most women's sports because there is much less foolishness. I can't stand seeing some 6'11" player dunk the ball, turn to the opposing player and thump his chest. Too much taunting and "Look at me!" stuff goes on in men's sports. I seem to see more sportsmanship in the women's sports as well. But I must admit, I like the weekly top plays in the men's sports. Their athleticism is fantastic.
 
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BTW, the UConn men had 24 assists on 28 made baskets vs USF the other day. And all of you snobs that disdain men's basketball missed a doozy of a game yesterday.

The men's game has more athletic players that are able to muscle their way into the paint which is why there are more unassisted shots. The UConn guys run an uptempo game and fastbreak baskets aren't always assisted, nor are baskets off steals (you go, Lasan Kromah!). A dunk isn't necessarily a "show me" move; it's a high percentage shot that's very difficult to block. Watch some good teams with great chemistry & teamwork, like the UConn men, and you might change your minds.
 
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Different teams play differently, for both men and women. Watch or don’t watch, but seems fair to me that analysis and/or critique should include having viewed the teams and players in question with more than cursory attention. Yesterdays UCONN men’s game was so much fun…
 
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The last 2 posts typify the general feeling Nan and you can't help that along. But again it's their prerogative……..
 
mauconnfan said:
The last 2 posts typify the general feeling Nan and you can't help that along. But again it's their prerogative……..
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ctfjr was actually correcting a previous post, pointing out that Wooden didn't say women's basketball was a more pure game but that the better teams play a more pure game. Wooden knew, like some in this thread apparently don't, that much of women's basketball is unwatchable. It is getting better but slowly.
 
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HuskyNan said:
BTW, the UConn men had 24 assists on 28 made baskets vs USF the other day. And all of you snobs that disdain men's basketball missed a doozy of a game yesterday.

The men's game has more athletic players that are able to muscle their way into the paint which is why there are more unassisted shots. The UConn guys run an uptempo game and fastbreak baskets aren't always assisted, nor are baskets off steals (you go, Lasan Kromah!). A dunk isn't necessarily a "show me" move; it's a high percentage shot that's very difficult to block. Watch some good teams with great chemistry & teamwork, like the UConn men, and you might change your minds.
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HuskyNan said:
ctfjr was actually correcting a previous post, pointing out that Wooden didn't say women's basketball was a more pure game but that the better teams play a more pure game. Wooden knew, like some in this thread apparently don't, that a much of women's basketball is unwatchable. It is getting better but slowly.
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Nan - I agree with both of these posts.
I think a lot of the issue with the men's game is that the individual skill level and athleticism has outgrown the game we older posters remember - Dr. J was a revelation and a precursor of things to come. Combine that with the showboating/trash talking that has become the norm in all sports and it loses some of its 'innocence' and simple joy. The interesting thing to me is that for all that increased individual skill the shooting percentages haven't really changed in the men's game, and I think that is partly to do with the more individualistic nature of play - a great player still shoots 50% because he feels justified in taking high difficulty shots rather than really working to get a good shot for himself or a teammate.
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I always loved the Chris Carter quoted response to an early touchdown celebration by Randy Moss (I believe) in his rookie season 'Try to act like you've done it before.' That attitude is very 'old school' and I doubt anyone playing today in any pro sport would think of making such a comment.
 
The phenomenon you are seeing isn't that it's more of a team game. It's that the top women's teams score so many more relative baskets than the other teams. Higher relative assists totals are just an artifact of the nature of so many blowouts.

Without looking I'm sure Syracuse is light years from the top of team assists leaders in men's basketball. It isn't because they lack teamwork - it's because they play at a pace that keeps their games in the 60s many of which come on 3's. Fewer field goals equals fewer assists.

The disbursement of talent around to hundreds of teams instead if dozens allows teams to play different styles. If you are scoring 85 a game and a better team is scoring 55 game do you inherently have better teamwork because your assists totals are higher?
 
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