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Who's your list for next HC?

Pudge said:
Tim Lester of Western Michigan is impressive today. Ball control chain moving offense and develops QB with a nice MAC opening win over Buffalo on the road. His current QB has a rating in the top 5 in CFB. He beat Pitt this year on the road; beat FCS by 4 TDS; good solid San Jose Team beat; and the previous HC Fleck has done well at the higher level. Lester was a HC at a D2 level. Defense looked solid. Heady play in the last 3 minutes. well spoken and late 40s.
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Currently at $800,000, $1.1 million with incentives. He's got a good profile. Offer him $2 million with $3 million for staff..?
 
I'm thinking Spanos. Here's why:
  • Continuity. The players seem to like him. He seems to have the team trending in the right direction. If he can grab two convincing wins in UMass and Yale and have the team put up a real fight in the last 4 that might be enough momentum to keep potential recruits and guys already here from jumping ship. And I'd just hate to see someone else come in and start all over again. This constant regime change is getting very old.
  • Smarts. NFL and P-5 experience. One of the first moves he made was to bring in Noel Mazzone and all of a sudden the offense starting scoring points. I thought that was great and something no one expected. I'd like to see what kind of a staff Spanos could put together if he is given the reins. Sure, some can point to what they consider "mistakes" he has made on the field but if those "chances" had paid off..... And why not take chances at this point in the season? See what works and what doesn't. Like having Rose pass the ball on a trick play. Now that's smart and something you'd never see Edsall come up with.
  • Style. Spanos is a breath of fresh air after the stagnant atmosphere the Edsall era left the program in.
  • Money. Spanos is here. He understands the circumstances the football program is in here in CT. If he is offered a competitive salary with G-5 HC's and is given a decent amount to hire "his" type of assistants along with incentives(bonuses for making a bowl game, filling the Rent, etc) then maybe it's a good hire for everyone concerned.
 
weyuo said:
I'm thinking Spanos. Here's why:
  • Continuity. The players seem to like him. He seems to have the team trending in the right direction. If he can grab two convincing wins in UMass and Yale and have the team put up a real fight in the last 4 that might be enough momentum to keep potential recruits and guys already here from jumping ship. And I'd just hate to see someone else come in and start all over again. This constant regime change is getting very old.
  • Smarts. NFL and P-5 experience. One of the first moves he made was to bring in Noel Mazzone and all of a sudden the offense starting scoring points. I thought that was great and something no one expected. I'd like to see what kind of a staff Spanos could put together if he is given the reins. Sure, some can point to what they consider "mistakes" he has made on the field but if those "chances" had paid off..... And why not take chances at this point in the season? See what works and what doesn't. Like having Rose pass the ball on a trick play. Now that's smart and something you'd never see Edsall come up with.
  • Style. Spanos is a breath of fresh air after the stagnant atmosphere the Edsall era left the program in.
  • Money. Spanos is here. He understands the circumstances the football program is in here in CT. If he is offered a competitive salary with G-5 HC's and is given a decent amount to hire "his" type of assistants along with incentives(bonuses for making a bowl game, filling the Rent, etc) then maybe it's a good hire for everyone concerned.
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Not happening
 
weyuo said:
I'm thinking Spanos. Here's why:
  • Continuity. The players seem to like him. He seems to have the team trending in the right direction. If he can grab two convincing wins in UMass and Yale and have the team put up a real fight in the last 4 that might be enough momentum to keep potential recruits and guys already here from jumping ship. And I'd just hate to see someone else come in and start all over again. This constant regime change is getting very old.
  • Smarts. NFL and P-5 experience. One of the first moves he made was to bring in Noel Mazzone and all of a sudden the offense starting scoring points. I thought that was great and something no one expected. I'd like to see what kind of a staff Spanos could put together if he is given the reins. Sure, some can point to what they consider "mistakes" he has made on the field but if those "chances" had paid off..... And why not take chances at this point in the season? See what works and what doesn't. Like having Rose pass the ball on a trick play. Now that's smart and something you'd never see Edsall come up with.
  • Style. Spanos is a breath of fresh air after the stagnant atmosphere the Edsall era left the program in.
  • Money. Spanos is here. He understands the circumstances the football program is in here in CT. If he is offered a competitive salary with G-5 HC's and is given a decent amount to hire "his" type of assistants along with incentives(bonuses for making a bowl game, filling the Rent, etc) then maybe it's a good hire for everyone concerned.
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I'd also like to add that if you gave Spanos an off season to recruit and hire a staff you'd see a much improved team heading to Logan, UT late next August.
 
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weyuo said:
I'm thinking Spanos. Here's why:
  • Continuity. The players seem to like him. He seems to have the team trending in the right direction. If he can grab two convincing wins in UMass and Yale and have the team put up a real fight in the last 4 that might be enough momentum to keep potential recruits and guys already here from jumping ship. And I'd just hate to see someone else come in and start all over again. This constant regime change is getting very old.
  • Smarts. NFL and P-5 experience. One of the first moves he made was to bring in Noel Mazzone and all of a sudden the offense starting scoring points. I thought that was great and something no one expected. I'd like to see what kind of a staff Spanos could put together if he is given the reins. Sure, some can point to what they consider "mistakes" he has made on the field but if those "chances" had paid off..... And why not take chances at this point in the season? See what works and what doesn't. Like having Rose pass the ball on a trick play. Now that's smart and something you'd never see Edsall come up with.
  • Style. Spanos is a breath of fresh air after the stagnant atmosphere the Edsall era left the program in.
  • Money. Spanos is here. He understands the circumstances the football program is in here in CT. If he is offered a competitive salary with G-5 HC's and is given a decent amount to hire "his" type of assistants along with incentives(bonuses for making a bowl game, filling the Rent, etc) then maybe it's a good hire for everyone concerned.
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I am with you. Mazzone in particular was intriguing. I think WE all can get the fundamental reason WHY he isn't gonna advance to the HC slot if you listen to him on the Coach podcast with Crispino. We need a Personality ... kinda like the confidence with Calhoun / Auriemma. He has to sell. Bring the base fan and market beyond; bring kids in. Spanos is a breath of fresh air ... and the kids on this roster do obviously like him and love playing today. But ... HE doesn't bring the buzz

Benedict said Charisma. AND you know ... there are many nuanced components to that.
 
Banta55 said:
Not happening
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It might not happen because Spanos himself might not want this headache and boy what a statement that would make about D-1 football in CT.
 
I know it's been said by quite a few but the coach has to want UConn and right now its definitely not one of the better houses in the neighborhood - without a doubt an extreme fixer-upper
 
Again, this is Benedict’s first opportunity to hire a football HC with no financial strings attached. He was limited in his options when hiring Edsall due to Diaco’s buyout and ??s of the AAC stability.

He is not going to hire Spanos. Benedict made a great hoops hire in Hurley and he is going for a similar success for football which would make him a top candidate for a P5 AD position.
 
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CTMike said:
We are not capable of looking 2 inches past our nose apparently.
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If only we looked under our nose in 2011 and hired Moorhead, we might be in the ACC right now.

Spanos in not TJ Weist, his resume is much better and whoever we hire is going to have a hard time finding themselves a OC as good as Mazzone.

Fingers crossed Spanos wins the next three games with the backup QB and makes this a legit debate.
 
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UConnRock said:
Benedict made a great hoops hire in Hurley and he is going for a similar success for football which would make him a top candidate for a P5 AD position.
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The Hurley equivalent for this football team is Moorhead. If DB can pull that off more power to him.

Hopefully Moorhead is OK by the way after his "emergency surgery".
 
I see no problem giving Spanos a year to recruit and build something. We have burnt 10 years on failures. What’s another year with guy who has some things start to work.
 
giddyup said:
I see no problem giving Spanos a year to recruit and build something. We have burnt 10 years on failures. What’s another year with guy who has some things start to work.
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Don't think we can recruit with a coach who has a 1 year contract. I hope he wins enough games to make it a tough decision. That's a problem we want to have.
 
Jimdish255 said:
Don't think we can recruit with a coach who has a 1 year contract. I hope he wins enough games to make it a tough decision. That's a problem we want to have.
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Yeah, it’s a good point.
 
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The announcers in the Vandy game said the coaches will not be back..
 
Banta55 said:
The announcers in the Vandy game said the coaches will not be back..
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They're just using common sense, not any real inside information. When the head coach is terminated (or "retires"), the staff goes too. They'll have to interview/impress the new hire to stay on... and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that no one from a team/staff that has one FBS victory since October of 2017 is going to be retained.
 
We must play competitive FBS football to be a premier flagship state university. UCONN leaders know this. They will invest the money to make it happen.
 
metsfan2323 said:
The Hurley equivalent for this football team is Moorhead. If DB can pull that off more power to him.

Hopefully Moorhead is OK by the way after his "emergency surgery".
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Hurley did not have P5 HC experience like Moorhead does. Hurley came from a nice progression of success starting at lower levels prep school, Rutgers assistant, Wagner HC, URI HC and then UConn. Look for Benedict to focus on a similar candidate for football (energetic personality with some HC experience and known ability to recruit and develop a program).
 
metsfan2323 said:
If only we looked under our nose in 2011 and hired Moorhead, we might be in the ACC right now.

Spanos in not TJ Weist, his resume is much better and whoever we hire is going to have a hard time finding themselves a OC as good as Mazzone.

Fingers crossed Spanos wins the next three games with the backup QB and makes this a legit debate.
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Enough

This is some fantasy dream you guys have. I don't think we were that close to ACC. HOW in the world would the stakeholders of Connecticut - including the angry taxpayers - go for the grifting like Louisville did for that YUM Center and PapaJohn's Stadium. Even Rutgers pushed out some crazy money and helicopters. Football is ultimately about that pinching dollars and spinning graft. We did not have the decades of history: thus Pitt was far more a candidate. WE have better prospects - I think - as a fanbase than BC or SU; yet, nobody thought about State U. building and building ... they rather be in dumpy Carrier dome (which btw ... it ain't new - please stop the puffing facilites guy in 315) or Alumni. WE could be the New England Flagship for ACC or B1G. However, we are a State and University that won't go the extra mile that the Big Time sports league demands. We were never at the altar. And then the AAC would always have sunk our path


My view now
 
weyuo said:
It might not happen because Spanos himself might not want this headache and boy what a statement that would make about D-1 football in CT.
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:rolleyes:
 
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Pudge said:
Enough

This is some fantasy dream you guys have. I don't think we were that close to ACC. HOW in the world would the stakeholders of Connecticut - including the angry taxpayers - go for the grifting like Louisville did for that YUM Center and PapaJohn's Stadium. Even Rutgers pushed out some crazy money and helicopters. Football is ultimately about that pinching dollars and spinning graft. We did not have the decades of history: thus Pitt was far more a candidate. WE have better prospects - I think - as a fanbase than BC or SU; yet, nobody thought about State U. building and building ... they rather be in dumpy Carrier dome (which btw ... it ain't new - please stop the puffing facilites guy in 315) or Alumni. WE could be the New England Flagship for ACC or B1G. However, we are a State and University that won't go the extra mile that the Big Time sports league demands. We were never at the altar. And then the AAC would always have sunk our path


My view now
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The facts of this just aren’t accurate, but you know that. They’ve been discussed and documented here ad nauseam, so I won’t bother to do it again.
 
ZooCougar said:
There are lots of Hurleys out there us. With an interim and 2500 a week consultant we’ve seen positive growth. It’s not like Moorhead is the only hope.
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The obsession with Moorhead is brutal to read. He's not coming. He went to Oregon to rebuild his reputation as an "offensive mind" after faltering at what was a bad cultural fit for him. He's positioning himself for another P5 Job. He may not get another bite of the apple if he falters again. He could go to Uconn turn things around and land himself a P5 Gig in 3 years. He could also go there, lose a bunch, and have the bloom come off the rose. He'll stay at OU for 2 years, go to 2 Rose Bowls, and then take over somewhere in The ACC like Pitt, Duke, or Cuse. If he goes G5 I could see Temple as he could recruit PA. Posters need to broaden their view. Young FCS HC, P5 OC, or underpaid G5 HC looking for a pay bump.
 
Ldandy said:
The obsession with Moorhead is brutal to read. He's not coming. He went to Oregon to rebuild his reputation as an "offensive mind" after faltering at what was a bad cultural fit for him. He's positioning himself for another P5 Job. He may not get another bite of the apple if he falters again. He could go to Uconn turn things around and land himself a P5 Gig in 3 years. He could also go there, lose a bunch, and have the bloom come off the rose. He'll stay at OU for 2 years, go to 2 Rose Bowls, and then take over somewhere in The ACC like Pitt, Duke, or Cuse. If he goes G5 I could see Temple as he could recruit PA. Posters need to broaden their view. Young FCS HC, P5 OC, or underpaid G5 HC looking for a pay bump.
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let's hope the Search firm UConn is hiring pays attention to this... I think you're spot on... We could potentially come here ... and stay ( a la Geno and Calhoun )... Would be nice for that to happen...
 
Whole lotta if this and if that in here. Not surprising, there is no basis upon which to make a hire at this point. Nobody is offering Spanos the job until the season is over, if at all. Dave will also be contacting people and gauging interest. He will know what his budget is. From that he can build a picture of who might come (or stay) and what they would cost. When is the next open recruiting window? Does anybody have a sense of Spanos as a recruiter?

We can sit here and throw crap at the walls, but all of it is pointless because we, and even DB, don't have sufficient data, and won't for another two months.
 
ScottVib said:
They're just using common sense, not any real inside information. When the head coach is terminated (or "retires"), the staff goes too. They'll have to interview/impress the new hire to stay on... and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that no one from a team/staff that has one FBS victory since October of 2017 is going to be retained.
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Even when LSU kept Ed O, after being an interm HC, he brought in his own staff. I would think if Spanos gets the job he absolutely will bring in all his own guys.
 
i feel like shawn elliot could be a decent candidate look what hes done to GA state that does not have any where near the facilities of Uconn his salary is only 604,000 a year as well. he would be more of a realistic candidate for the job. he did pretty well with a newer program that formed in 2010. since 2017 elliot has taken the team to three bowl games. his first recruiting class was highest in school history due to short announcement of hire. so hes come in before to a struggling program and was somewhat successful
 
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