Who Were The Refs??

[navery12]

Does anyone have any clue what upstater is talking about?

The only reference I can find to it is this, which is also from upstater. Definitely just a fever dream

How did they lose all those games?

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I remember this article. There's been a lot of talk like this. Doesn't say anything about what upstater is talking about.

To me, it says that @upstater misremembered it as something during the Tournament. That seemed off, but I knew what he was referring to.

I decided to read through the thread before pitching in that I recalled it as during the January losses, but I would have said that I wasn't going to going to bother to look up details.

@JohnFSilver link went to the story I was thinking of, so thanks to him for doing the work I wouldn't have. And I definitely recollect that the matter was discussed in a thread.

I don't remember that anybody at that time criticized Goodman's looks, or that anybody protested that somebody had done that, by saying that's something that should be off limits

No doubt that Upstater was incorrect, and it would have been a far bigger story if it was during the Tournament, so I can see @BigErnMcCracken , @Chin Diesel, and you crying "foul," but @superjohn could nonetheless use the linked story as a literal answer to his, "What are you talking about?" question. It affirms that Upstater wasn't just completely making stuff, but he had it wrong.

If the refs had called folks on the UNH guys who aggressively pushed off defenders as though clearly instructed to do it constantly, then all 3 of the guys who scored 90% of the Wildcat points would have been gone befire the 3nd half midpoint.

Instead, we got to see everybody not named Cam Spencer combine for 1-23 from three. Eek.

 

[auror]

The total? If anyone got Over 147.5, congrats. I only saw 149 to 152 today.

It opened at 147.5 but was bet up to 153 in some places.

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[superjohn]

To me, it says that @upstater misremembered it as something during the Tournament. That seemed off, but I knew what he was referring to.

I decided to read through the thread before pitching in that I recalled it as during the January losses, but I would have said that I wasn't going to going to bother to look up details.

@JohnFSilver link went to the story I was thinking of, so thanks to him for doing the work I wouldn't have. And I definitely recollect that the matter was discussed in a thread.

I don't remember that anybody at that time criticized Goodman's looks, or that anybody protested that somebody had done that, by saying that's something that should be off limits

No doubt that Upstater was incorrect, and it would have been a far bigger story if it was during the Tournament, so I can see @BigErnMcCracken , @Chin Diesel, and you crying "foul," but @superjohn could nonetheless use the linked story as a literal answer to his, "What are you talking about?" question. It affirms that Upstater wasn't just completely making stuff, but he had it wrong.

If the refs had called folks on the UNH guys who aggressively pushed off defenders as though clearly instructed to do it constantly, then all 3 of the guys who scored 90% of the Wildcat points would have been gone befire the 3nd half midpoint.

Instead, we got to see everybody not named Cam Spencer combine for 1-23 from three. Eek.

#47, it's not what upstater was talking about.

 

[auror]

The only reference I can find to it is this, which is also from upstater. Definitely just a fever dream

How did they lose all those games?

Fox doesn't do the NCAA tournament, so he's confused in his own fever dream comments.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

#47, it's not what upstater was talking about.

Yeah, I found that odd.

When he posts a link, I'll say I'm wrong.

I think he got it wrong. I just don't have any need to keep the discussion all get; you might...which is your right.

 

[caw]

Good lord. This place is going to be even worse than I thought when they actually lose a game.

Remember last year, this year will be worse 100%.

 

[upstater]

How long ago was this?

Last spring

 

[upstater]

Fox doesn't do the NCAA tournament, so he's confused in his own fever dream comments.

I remember it being said last spring. I don't remember the game. If it's Fox, it had to be the BET. I thought it was the tourney. I wish I could go back to find the Fox games in the BET, there were only 3, and we're talking about 10 minutes of viewing each, so 30 minutes total. You'd find it there.

 

[huskyharry]

We have had trouble with O'Connell since Calhoun's era. That's kind of like unbelievable.

I’ve always called him the “prancing pony”

 

[ucp990411]

We have had trouble with O'Connell since Calhoun's era. That's kind of like unbelievable.

I don’t think he has been an official for 11 years

 

[Improviser]

Can someone explain that foul on Karaban when he was on the ground with the ball? I don't think I've ever seen a call like that.

A fowl call.

 

[husky429]

I remember it being said last spring. I don't remember the game. If it's Fox, it had to be the BET. I thought it was the tourney. I wish I could go back to find the Fox games in the BET, there were only 3, and we're talking about 10 minutes of viewing each, so 30 minutes total. You'd find it there.

Give it up and take the L, man. It happens to everyone sometimes.

Except @navery12 -- he must have a boneyard eidetic memory.

 

[UCONNJACK]

Coaches opinions of O’Connell from a 2021 Athletic article regarding the best and worst college referees. Look at the fourth quote.

Brian O’Connell

“Experienced. Reffed big games. He’s not going to get caught up in the game. I think he’s going to call it as he sees it.”

“I do like Brian. He’s a good official, very good. I’d say he’s in my top 10. Very fair. Accurate. You can talk to Brian.’’

“I love Brian. Former player, just gets it. He’s the kind, you don’t worry about him reffing a game, like, against Duke. It’s not like Duke is going to get every call.’’

“Brian is very, very, very prone to listening. Like listening to chatter that doesn’t involve the game, even like with fans. He’s also the kind of guy who will talk to an assistant coach like, ‘sit down.’ Disrespectful. That’s a grown man.’’

“I love Brian. He’s my favorite referee. He’s tough on the road. He doesn’t bend. I want a guy who’s not going to talk to coaches. Just call the game. And don’t get swayed by the crowd.’’

 

[NJHusky]

Do we know the refs for the Kansas game yet? Will they be B12 refs or neutral conf refs?

tia

 

[HuskyHawk]

O'Connell hates Hurley. It's pretty clear that he still does. He doesn't like coaches that talk back and even the new calmer Dan is too much. He shouldn't be calling UConn games. That said, this crew was simply awful. Called a bunch of bad fouls on UNH too. Seems like they thought the game was getting out of hand and clamped down on it excessively.

 

[housekeys]

I don't think it was O'Connell that Hurley was after. It was the bald guy, Kipp Kissinger. Not sure I get the hate for O'Connell.

 

[Stew Crew]

Can someone explain that foul on Karaban when he was on the ground with the ball? I don't think I've ever seen a call like that.

Tony Chiazza is the Angel Hernandez of college basketball. That is the only explanation.

 

[husky429]

Coaches opinions of O’Connell from a 2021 Athletic article regarding the best and worst college referees. Look at the fourth quote.

Brian O’Connell

“Experienced. Reffed big games. He’s not going to get caught up in the game. I think he’s going to call it as he sees it.”

“I do like Brian. He’s a good official, very good. I’d say he’s in my top 10. Very fair. Accurate. You can talk to Brian.’’

“I love Brian. Former player, just gets it. He’s the kind, you don’t worry about him reffing a game, like, against Duke. It’s not like Duke is going to get every call.’’

“Brian is very, very, very prone to listening. Like listening to chatter that doesn’t involve the game, even like with fans. He’s also the kind of guy who will talk to an assistant coach like, ‘sit down.’ Disrespectful. That’s a grown man.’’

“I love Brian. He’s my favorite referee. He’s tough on the road. He doesn’t bend. I want a guy who’s not going to talk to coaches. Just call the game. And don’t get swayed by the crowd.’’

Found Brian's burner account.

 

[Vancat]

Only good thing about tonight was that I won a $5 Dunkin gift card.

And traffic wasn’t bad on the way home.

I caught a T shirt

 

[upstater]

Give it up and take the L, man. It happens to everyone sometimes.

Except @navery12 -- he must have a boneyard eidetic memory.

I'm actually glad that someone posted my post from March where I said the exact same thing. So at the very least, I absolutely remember verbatim what I wrote in a tweet 9 months ago!!!!

 

[JohnFSilver]

O'Connell hates Hurley. It's pretty clear that he still does. He doesn't like coaches that talk back and even the new calmer Dan is too much. He shouldn't be calling UConn games. That said, this crew was simply awful. Called a bunch of bad fouls on UNH too. Seems like they thought the game was getting out of hand and clamped down on it excessively.

It’s personal.

He is a good ref, but he absolutely tried to bait in the second half.

 

[Waquoit]

It’s personal.

He is a good ref, but he absolutely tried to bait in the second half.

I'm sorry, a good ref doesn't "bait". Hack refs do. That's what makes them hacks.

 

[HooperScooper]

I remember it being said last spring. I don't remember the game. If it's Fox, it had to be the BET. I thought it was the tourney. I wish I could go back to find the Fox games in the BET, there were only 3, and we're talking about 10 minutes of viewing each, so 30 minutes total. You'd find it there.

Maybe you heard something but it can't be as you described in this thread. Don't you think if refs ever said that publicly on the record it would be a huge deal and everyone would remember it? Everyone associated with college basketball would remember it!

 

[upstater]

Maybe you heard something but it can't be as you described in this thread. Don't you think if refs ever said that publicly on the record it would be a huge deal and everyone would remember it? Everyone associated with college basketball would remember it!

Was not said on the record. The refs weren't named. The whole crew was like, WTF!?!?! It was said then immediately dropped. They specifically never mentioned the ref.