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Baxter was a back to the basket player. White looks like a poor man's Anthony Mason (meant as a compliment).
 
drummond jr at the line lol u see that brick. kid looks like a thick sf. short but wide and has ok hops. i sat let drummond guard him. when JC got into drummonds head in the 2nd half of the wvu game, it was like jones wasn't even in the building. i actually think olander may be a nice option also. the kid has a big body but not lenghty so while tyler may get pushed around a little bit he will get boards and get some over the back calls with his good positioning.
 
HuskyFan32 said:
I keep hearing he is this complete nightmare, but he averaged 13 points. Thats ok, but not what you would expect based on how people describe him.
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The guy averages almost as many assists as Bazz from the forward position.
 
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I want to run Olander and AO on him, and maybe Roscoe. He shoots under 50% from the line. As other teams do to AO, this guy should never get a clean look at a layup without being hacked. Hard fouls over and over. Drummond can guard him, but the fouls should come from elsewhere.
 
Does he remind you at all of Kawhi Leonard from SDSU last year? He was supposed to be a matchup nightmare, with a similar skill set as Royce White, but I don't recall him being too much of a problem (obviously, since we won the game).
 
I question Olander's and AO's lateral quickness in guarding White. I like Drummond first and Roscoe if necessary. UConn may rotate guys on him.
 
Antrik Klaiber!

If he can ever get out of Calhoun's doghouse
 
interesting thinking back to our run last year, who was the best post player we crossed paths with? Derrick Williams hands down. Only reason he was negated was because of foul trouble. This Royce kid is no where near the level of derrick williams, for instance royce shoots horribly from the line and isn't as cerebral. Bottom line, who ever guards him needs to bring it.
 
The fact the someone even brought up TO to guard him is laughable.

To foul him yes, but if I read properly I think one poster actually suggested him guarding.

Drummond should guard him and than Scoe. All his play making ability seems to be off pick and rolls and dribble penetration. From reading the Iowa st. board he doesn't seem to post up or shoot it that well from the outside. Play off of him and make him an open jump shot. Kind of how teams play defense against Rondo.
 
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caw said:
The guy averages almost as many assists as Bazz from the forward position.
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Ok so hea a nice player. I'm not saying he is isnt buy people have been describing Lebum James not a guy who average 13 pts in the crappy big 12.
 
I've seen them play several times this year and Royce White is very good, Olander simply can't guard him. Maybe start with Roscoe but most of the time I want Drummond on him.
 
I could see JC switching different guys on him, maybe starting with Roscoe, then shifting to Andre. We need to avoid early foul trouble by Andre and Alex. If they play really small, I wonder how much time Alex will get.

What I would like to see would be our guys taking it to White getting him in foul trouble.
 
HuskyFan32 said:
Ok so hea a nice player. I'm not saying he is isnt buy people have been describing Lebum James not a guy who average 13 pts in the crappy big 12.
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Crappy Big 12? Did you watch basketball other than UConn games this year?

The Big 12 is easily on par with the Big East and you could easily make an argument that they a better league this year. Off the top of my head i know Kansas beat Gtown, Missouri destroyed ND, Baylor beat WV, Iowa St beat Providence...

There probably are some BE wins in there too..im pretty sure WV beat K state.

But point being that the Big East isn't as far superior to the Big 12 as your suggesting.
 
Giddyup5 said:
Crappy Big 12? Did you watch basketball other than UConn games this year?

The Big 12 is easily on par with the Big East and you could easily make an argument that they a better league this year. Off the top of my head i know Kansas beat Gtown, Missouri destroyed ND, Baylor beat WV, Iowa St beat Providence...

There probably are some BE wins in there too..im pretty sure WV beat K state.

But point being that the Big East isn't as far superior to the Big 12 as your suggesting.
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I don't disagree with you but those aren't exactly even matchups to draw conclusions from, aside from ND/Missouri. Cuse v KU, Marquette v Missouri, Baylor vs ND and ISUvs GTown would be the matchups that would be more telling.
 
Oh I agree, but those are the games that were played.

But gun to your head with the match ups that you suggested who do you got? IMO the top 3 in the Big 12 are better than Marquette, ND, Gtown.

I think the Big East is deeper, especially in the middle, but the Big 12 has 3 really good to great teams.

There is a reason that the most of the country hates the Big East...we constantly think we are the best. Most years we are, but this year we aren't and there are some really good teams out there in other conferences.
 
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Giddyup5 said:
Oh I agree, but those are the games that were played.

But gun to your head with the match ups that you suggested who do you got? IMO the top 3 in the Big 12 are better than Marquette, ND, Gtown.

I think the Big East is deeper, especially in the middle, but the Big 12 has 3 really good to great teams.

There is a reason that the most of the country hates the Big East...we constantly think we are the best. Most years we are, but this year we aren't and there are some really good teams out there in other conferences.
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Defensively Those teams aren't very strong. I meant on defense. Average 13 ppg isn't nearly as impressive as you'd expect based on the description people are giving the guy. "6 8 270. Blows past guards. Great vision. Sounds like an NBA all star
 
HuskyFan32 said:
I keep hearing he is this complete nightmare, but he averaged 13 points. Thats ok, but not what you would expect based on how people describe him.
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Yeah, but there's 9 boards and 5 assists to go along with those 13 points. He's going to be a challenge to guard, but I'd rather that than have their best player be a 3 point threat.
 
Color me somewhat unimpressed. Last 10 games:

11.1 ppg on 47.8% (not a great percentage for someone who doesn't shoot 3s, doesn't shoot much)
8.5 rpg (good)
6.5 apg (good)
4.2 tpg (bad)

He's had some monster games:
11/12 v. Lehigh - 25 p (9-15), 2 a, 11, r, 6 to
11/15 v. Drake - 21 p (9-19) 4 a, 14 r, 5 to
12/3 v. Michigan - 22 p (10-15), 3 a, 13 r, 2 to
1/7 v. T A&M - 10 p (4-10), 10 a, 18 r, 3 to
1/14 v. Kansas - 18 p (7-14), 4 a, 17 r, 5 to

But most of these are a while back. (although he had 17-4-10 v. Texas and 15-7-12 v. OSU in the last month and a half) I wonder why? Familiarity?
 
47.8% is good even if you are not shooting threes. 18 and 17 against Kansas is not impressive to you? 6.5 assists for a big guy is impressive.
 
ford82 said:
47.8% is good even if you are not shooting threes. 18 and 17 against Kansas is not impressive to you? 6.5 assists for a big guy is impressive.
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Oriakhi is 50% on the season, just saying and he gets bulldozed by people for his scoring.

For all the passing prowess ISU fans are giving Royce, dude is also a turnover machine. 3.9 per game is not good.
 
ford82 said:
47.8% is good even if you are not shooting threes. 18 and 17 against Kansas is not impressive to you? 6.5 assists for a big guy is impressive.
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Did you read my full post?

First, I gave a list of great games he had, and Kansas was one. But it was a while ago.

Also, he's a TO machine, especially as the season has wound down.

He's good. His game is different, and that makes him a challenge definitionally. But I'm only concerned if he gets our guys in foul trouble. Let him go off, just don't cheat off of the shooters.

47%, almost all on 3, is not impressive. Lamb shoots 60.4% on only 2s, Oriakhi shoots 50%, Drummond shoots 54%. Hell, Roscoe shoots 47.8% on 2s only (Napier and Boat shoot lower than White, though, on 2s alone).
 
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Yes, I read your whole post. You said you were unimpressed. I interpreted that as you were not impressed with him period. (not just the last 10 games.) I am impressed with his game, even with the turnovers.
 
ford82 said:
Yes, I read your whole post. You said you were unimpressed. I interpreted that as you were not impressed with him period. (not just the last 10 games.) I am impressed with his game, even with the turnovers.
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He seems like a very nice player. One that I would like to have on our team. But nothing, except some eccentricities in his game, scream unstoppable in the way ISU fans make him seem.
 
I agree. He is stoppable, for sure. UConn will have a harder time if Iowa St. has multiple contributors and is raining threes.
 
tzznandrew said:
Did you read my full post?

First, I gave a list of great games he had, and Kansas was one. But it was a while ago.

Also, he's a TO machine, especially as the season has wound down.

He's good. His game is different, and that makes him a challenge definitionally. But I'm only concerned if he gets our guys in foul trouble. Let him go off, just don't cheat off of the shooters.

47%, almost all on 3, is not impressive. Lamb shoots 60.4% on only 2s, Oriakhi shoots 50%, Drummond shoots 54%. Hell, Roscoe shoots 47.8% on 2s only (Napier and Boat shoot lower than White, though, on 2s alone).
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His turnovers are due to getting a little too fancy with the ball. Due to the ridiculous size of his hands, he can whip the ball like a softball and no one on the court ever sees it coming. Half the time it results in a turnover, half the time it results in an incredible pass.

The thing about ISU is that Royce White isn't the guy that has to be stopped. When White takes 11 FGA or less, ISU is 20-0, when he has more than 11 FGA, they are 2-10. He's a rebounder and facilitator that makes opposing D's play much different then they are used to. ISU lives and dies by the 3. If they are hot, they can out shoot anyone in the country, if they are cold, well, I think the scientific term is "fuc*ed".
 
Obviously the kid is very good, but I have to think these ISU fans are overstating his abilities a bit. If he can't be guarded one on one by anybody in college basketball, and is 6'8" 270, then wouldn't he be a lottery pick? He sounds like Lebron with a slightly worse jump shot they way he's being talked about.
 
Royce White isn't "unstoppable" as many are saying. I don't know if that is the case for any player. However, Royce is a pass first player. He won't look to score unless he feels forced to do so, or the defense is giving it to him. Royce's assist numbers may be misleading a bit because I bet for every assist he gets he would have another for a "hockey assist" with the shooter giving an extra pass. White is the most valuable player on the ISU team for the fact that he opens up their shooters. Whether it be inside-out, or the handoff play look for every offensive possession to go through him.

With that being said, many of his turnovers come from his teammates not being ready for a pass, mainly Ejim. Not to say that he doesn't make some dumb passes, because he does. Like stated before, ISU thrives on the 3 ball with many that can shoot it. White is just the guy that opens them up.
 
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