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I hope he's been putting in extra work with all the receivers - Griffin, McCombs, and Williams as well as the wideouts. Never hurts to have an arsenal of weapons.
 
huskynation said:
The only issue with Whitmer, is that he will take alot of chances and he may throw alot of picks. He has that gunner mentality, and he isn't afraid to try to squeeze the ball into tight places. Last year he threw 14 picks in JC, how many ints does he throw in the be?
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That is a huge concern for me. The hope is that the coaches can get him to realize when a play is just not there.

I hope whoever is the starter week 1 gives us better play than the qbs last year. I don't care who it is.
 
Happy with Paqualoni naming a starter before the season. I would guess Nebrich runs the wildcat when they use it as of now.
 
We should call Vegas and see who the 1st to transfer is. It's the right call he looks the smoothest out there.
 
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huskynation said:
From my perspective, whitmer is the best qb by far. If you go by the spring game, he identifies the open target, gets the ball out of his hands quickly and he puts the ball in a position where receivers can make something happen. Fundamentally, he has better footwork, pocket presence, anticipation, and accuracy, than any of the qb's at this point. He's a guy that gonna thrive in the short to medium range passing game and the defense is not gonna be able to overplay the run with 8 or 9 guys in the box without getting burned for big plays.

It just makes sense to make sure that he gets the most reps with the first team. The best players have to play its simple. And considering the fact that Whitmer was behind J-mac and nebrich, and also was learning the playbook on the fly, he still proved himself to be the best qb by the end of the spring. This guys hungry for playing time, and don't think that coach p didn't know that he was gonna be the starting qb the minute he convinced him to transfer here.

The only issue with Whitmer, is that he will take alot of chances and he may throw alot of picks. He has that gunner mentality, and he isn't afraid to try to squeeze the ball into tight places. Last year he threw 14 picks in JC, how many ints does he throw in the be?
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those are exactly what I saw in the Blue-White game. for the first time in a long time, it seemed that UConn had a quarterback who could hit the guy when he was open. It was dramatic, in fact...guys who were not open whith the other quarterbacks were suddenly making plays when he came in. The gunner mentality is a little worrisome, and I think we saw a bit of that when he threw the pick in the end zone the Spring game. But the good thing was that it didn't seem to effect him. next time out he drove them down for a score in the 2 minute drill.
 
i'll take 14 pics if 25 tds comes with it for year 1.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
i'll take 14 pics if 25 tds comes with it for year 1.
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What if eight of the TD's come against UMass and Buffalo and all of the INT's come against the other teams on the schedule?
 
would u 2 rather have 12 tds and 8 pics or 25 and 14?

if all of whitmers stats come in the mac games, then i bet P will deal with that issue like last year.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
would u 2 rather have 12 tds and 8 pics or 25 and 14?

if all of whitmers stats come in the mac games, then i bet P will deal with that issue like last year.
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8 picks.

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I don't care how many interceptions he throws, as long as he throwing signficantly more TD's. If he's going to throw 15 Int's, He better have 25-30 TD passes.

A QB can't play the game, afraid to throw an Int. We've had too many years of that. Every single year in the big east, from 2005-2010 was like that.
 
Well, sure, people can come up with absurd examples and say what about this or what about that, but the reality is that this kid threw for 25 tds last year, which is 11 more than we had last year and 15 more than we had in 2010. both years we had 9 inteceptions. If we can cut down on the inteceptions slightly and still throw 25 tds, that's a pretty reasonable tradeoff. He also threw for over 3000 yards last year. Again for comparisons, UConn threw for 2300 last year and 1965 the year before. for what its worth, the last time UConn threw for over 3000 yards in a season, Dan Orlovsky was behind center. And he had 15 incerceptions and 23 touchdown passes. Didn't hear too much complaining about that. I don't know if this kid can put up those kinds of numbers at this level, but if he can make the passing game a real threat it will be well worth it.
 
freescooter said:
Well, sure, people can come up with absurd examples and say what about this or what about that, but the reality is that this kid threw for 25 tds last year, which is 11 more than we had last year and 15 more than we had in 2010. both years we had 9 inteceptions. If we can cut down on the inteceptions slightly and still throw 25 tds, that's a pretty reasonable tradeoff. He also threw for over 3000 yards last year. Again for comparisons, UConn threw for 2300 last year and 1965 the year before. for what its worth, the last time UConn threw for over 3000 yards in a season, Dan Orlovsky was behind center. And he had 15 incerceptions and 23 touchdown passes. Didn't hear too much complaining about that. I don't know if this kid can put up those kinds of numbers at this level, but if he can make the passing game a real threat it will be well worth it.
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Of course we all want the guy to be a success but let's not pretend that 14 picks at a Juco program is the same as at an FBS program. I agree wholeheartedly though on your last sentence. The threat of an actual passing game will help the team substantially. My only point in my previous posts was that statistics can be incredibly misleading. If a guy pads stats against weak competition but struggles against better teams, he still might end up with seemingly decent stats but it wouldn't really be representative of his entire performance.
 
HuskyfanDan said:
would u 2 rather have 12 tds and 8 pics or 25 and 14?

if all of whitmers stats come in the mac games, then i bet P will deal with that issue like last year.
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A pick typically costs about 2 points in the NFL (http://www.footballnation.com/content/monday-morning-waterboy-quantifying/2807/) and maybe 3 points in college ... so if you gained a TD at the cost of a pick it would be a good trade ... however, this analysis assumes you're not giving up rushing TDs to get those extra passing TDs. As long as you're maintaining a balanced attack, then clearly 25 TD/14 INT is better than 12 TD/8 INT.
 
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jbdphi said:
Of course we all want the guy to be a success but let's not pretend that 14 picks at a Juco program is the same as at an FBS program. I agree wholeheartedly though on your last sentence. The threat of an actual passing game will help the team substantially. My only point in my previous posts was that statistics can be incredibly misleading. If a guy pads stats against weak competition but struggles against better teams, he still might end up with seemingly decent stats but it wouldn't really be representative of his entire performance.
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Butler was ranked #2 in JUCO last year and they did blow out some people, but that was largely because they were so good. Sent 15 guys to 1A programs after last season. They lost to the #1 ranked team in 2 ots to open the season. They are probably one of the top JUCO programs in the country. On the flip side,JUCO programs have lots of guys who are there for 1 or 2 years at most so you don't have a lot of time to develop coordination with a favorite receiver, that sort of thing. You are doing some of it on the fly.
 
nav(game vs)- 17-39(cp-at), 175(yards). 1(td) and 1(int). close loss in ot
fs- 16-28, 303. 2 and 1. blow out
high- 11-22, 197, 2-0. blow out
- 9-15, 179. 1 and 1. blow out
dodge- 14-20, 177. 1 and 1. blow out
garden- 20-32, 335. 3 and 1. blow out
ind- 20-25, 228. 3 and o. blow out
cof- 24-33, 379. 3 and 1. blow out
hut- 9-19, 273. 3 and 1. somewhat close game
dodge- 14-27, 361. 3 and 2. blow out
hut- 16-30, 215. 2 and 1 somewhat close game
tv- 10-26, 200. 1 and 4. close game

-he had a brutal bad last game....
-clearly the kid racks up yards
 
let's say for example there are 18 people wearing checkered pants, 8 wearing striped shirts & 4 (including one small person) wearing socks with fabric that zigzags horizontally. what would whitmers int/td ratio be then????
 
i don't care about passing TDs and INTs much as i'd like to see 3000 yards passing and a passing completion percentage of around 60%. TDs and INTs can be misleading. for all i know every INT was on a hail mary to end the half, in which case there's nothing wrong with them at all; but if we can get a passing percentage well over 50% and can average 250+ passing yards a game, i'll consider it an effective passing game.
 
pj said:
A pick typically costs about 2 points in the NFL (http://www.footballnation.com/content/monday-morning-waterboy-quantifying/2807/) and maybe 3 points in college ... so if you gained a TD at the cost of a pick it would be a good trade ... however, this analysis assumes you're not giving up rushing TDs to get those extra passing TDs. As long as you're maintaining a balanced attack, then clearly 25 TD/14 INT is better than 12 TD/8 INT.
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Whitmer won't be the only offense for us, so he may only be passing in better situations. With a balanced attack everyone's numbers look better.
 
Dan,
In several of those blow outs he didn't throw a pass in the 3rd and 4th quarter, which makes the numbers even better...and i read something about that final game...I guess it was just a sloppy game by both sides. Witmer's team had 6 turnovers and the other guys had 4. But he did lead them on the winning 89 yard drive in the closing minutes which included a couple of big gainers through the air.
 
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I want a QB that keeps defenses honest. I said it earlier. The kid can throw however many INTs he wants but if he's keeping the defense honest, and they have to respect the passing game, that can only result in great things for every other aspect of our team. Provides more room for our backs because there aren't 8-9 guys in the box. Helps the O-Line because they aren't expected to only open holes for the RB. I'd also think that it'd make it easier on the O-Line because they aren't defending against 8-9 guys in the box who already know what we're going to do.

To me, the measure of a QB is how well they can keep the defense guessing. From what I hear from all you, Whitmer has the best chances of being that guy. Who cares how many picks he throws. My last hope is that if he is the starter, he needs to stay that way. None of this QB roulette that we pulled last season. It throws off the whole offense and it's consistency!

I'm absolutely ready to rock this season!
 
He threw one bad pass for a pick in the spring game. Big deal. I'm more worried about the receivers. I want them to hold on to the ball and not quit on their routes. They did both last year way too much.
 
Waquoit said:
He threw one bad pass for a pick in the spring game. Big deal. I'm more worried about the receivers. I want them to hold on to the ball and not quit on their routes. They did both last year way too much.
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I would be more worried about the receivers except for one big thing in my mind; Mike Smith. Two years ago, the man was a monster. I expect that he is going to have a break out year this year. Couple that with Phillips, and hopefully with some growth in the position from Davis, Jones Jr., and Williams, and I'm much much less worried this year about the WR crew...
 
emshorts said:
let's say for example there are 18 people wearing checkered pants, 8 wearing striped shirts & 4 (including one small person) wearing socks with fabric that zigzags horizontally. what would whitmers int/td ratio be then????
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Depends whether they are jumping up and down en masse.

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