When did it become ok?

[Excalibur]

No. He just blew it. I am not going to cover everything he did wrong. I started a thread for that in which only like 4 posters have said anything, because this board would rather thrown feces and trash our players than discuss basketball.

Yet this is your response when someone tries to "discuss basketball". It's bad enough that people think you are joking.

 

[August_West]

Don't you see the problem here.... Ollie recruited like he was running a low mid major team. Just like Ollie won with Calhoun's team, Hurely is losing with Ollie's team. Look at what Ollie accomplished with his guys, Hurely should have cleaned house when he got here.

But he didnt

A coaching fail?

 

[Huskybass]

But he didnt

A coaching fail?

You know he inherited the Land of Misfit Toys as well as I do. One guy can't jump, another can't dribble, one guy is allergic to rebounding, another tries to drive through 2 or 3 taller defenders repeatedly and shoots 30%, another one never met a shot he didn't like and Whaley busted his butt to become a serviceable D1 big.

Hurley retained all of them and that's not a mistake, it's his style. He WILL have this team ranked next season. Isn't that the goal, to get back to being ranked and make tournament runs?

 

[August_West]

You know he inherited the Land of Misfit Toys as well as I do. One guy can't jump, another can't dribble, one guy is allergic to rebounding, another tries to drive through 2 or 3 taller defenders repeatedly and shoots 30%, another one never met a shot he didn't like and Whaley busted his butt to become a serviceable D1 big.

Hurley retained all of them and that's not a mistake, it's his style. He WILL have this team ranked next season. Isn't that the goal, to get back to being ranked and make tournament runs?

If its "not a mistake" to retain then it erases the "ollies guys" narrative, doesnt it?


Hey man Im a UConn fan. I still believe (and more, want to believe) in Hurley . I dont believe he is the wrong hire.


But then I see all these Hurley adherents blaming KO still or worse the kids, and I think Im one of the few on here that listens to Hurleys own request. "Dont go after the kids, go after me" .

 

[Watchdog]

You know he inherited the Land of Misfit Toys as well as I do. One guy can't jump, another can't dribble, one guy is allergic to rebounding, another tries to drive through 2 or 3 taller defenders repeatedly and shoots 30%, another one never met a shot he didn't like and Whaley busted his butt to become a serviceable D1 big.

Hurley retained all of them and that's not a mistake, it's his style. He WILL have this team ranked next season. Isn't that the goal, to get back to being ranked and make tournament runs?

I'm hoping Hurley is into developing a culture like that at Clemson football. I know some alums who say Dabo is genuine and real about making the team a family wherein the players and coaches all care about each other.

Take a look at the personal development consultants Hurley has brought in to work with the team and instill in them the principles that will make them better and more accomplished adults after graduation, whether they have a career in basketball or spend all their time monitoring sports message boards searching for wisdom.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Yet this is your response when someone tries to "discuss basketball". It's bad enough that people think you are joking.

last word

 

[Huskybass]

If its "not a mistake" to retain then it erases the "ollies guys" narrative, doesnt it?


Hey man Im a UConn fan. I still believe (and more, want to believe) in Hurley . I dont believe he is the wrong hire.


But then I see all these Hurley adherents blaming KO still or worse the kids, and I think Im one of the few on here that listens to Hurleys own request. "Dont go after the kids, go after me" .

In the 4 losses this season the starting backcourt is shooting something like 23 for 99. You will NEVER see that from Cole, Bouknight, and/or Gaffney as Sophs and a Junior next year. You know that as well as I do. So yes, Ollie's guys have been the driving force in the losses. To deny that would be ignoring the plain truth right in front of you.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

In the 4 losses this season the starting backcourt is shooting something like 23 for 99. You will NEVER see that from Cole, Bouknight, and/or Gaffney as Sophs and a Junior next year. You know that as well as I do. So yes, Ollie's guys have been the driving force in the losses. To deny that would be ignoring the plain truth right in front of you.

The starting backcourt are shooting poorly because they are taking terrible shots. Vital is a good shooter when he takes good shots. This is a coaching problem, not a player problem.

 

[August_West]

Cole, Bouknight, and/or Gaffney as Sophs and a Junior next year. You know that as well as I do.

No I dont know that.

Bouk you can see coming.

You are putting a lot of stock in Cole which is a major wild card. I like what I see out of Gaffney mostly but there is a ton unknown there too.

I loved what I saw out of limited Gilbert his first two years here. Not always an accurate predictor.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This team, this year, has bubble team talent. Let's see what Hurley does with them the rest of the year.

 

[Huskybass]

No I dont know that.

Bouk you can see coming.

You are putting a lot of stock in Cole which is a major wild card. I like what I see out of Gaffney mostly but there is a ton unknown there too.

I loved what I saw out of limited Gilbert his first two years here. Not always an accurate predictor.

I will bet you $100 right now that the 3 guards I named will shoot better than 23% in UConn's first 4 losses next season. Put your money where your mouth is. You won't, because you know I'm right.

 

[RJScootin]

But he didnt

A coaching fail?

Too soon to say coaching fail in long term, I don’t know his vision but short term yes. The results are what they are and this year hasn’t been a good look for Hurley. Once again that’s short term I still have faith Hurley will get this program turned around.

 

[RJScootin]

This team, this year, has bubble team talent. Let's see what Hurley does with them the rest of the year.

As a fan I wanted to believe this coming into season but reality this team has nit bubble talent.

 

[Huskybass]

The starting backcourt are shooting poorly because they are taking terrible shots. Vital is a good shooter when he takes good shots. This is a coaching problem, not a player problem.

You think Hurley doesn't want Vital and Gilbert to improve their shot selection?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You think Hurley doesn't want Vital and Gilbert to improve their shot selection?

I don't know. Look at the shots they have taken all season. Is it a secret they take terrible shots? Can't Hurley get them to stop, or has he lost control of the team? Or maybe he can't tell the difference himself. What do you think?

 

[Huskybass]

I think they are both skilled players who exercise poor judgment in terms of shot selection.

 

[RipCity]

Lol what a nutjob

 

[David 76]

I think we all have been through so much pain the last few years that when their play reminds us of it,we all freak out. I have been disappointed lately but I need to remember that we are getting better and we are not doomed to stay in the previous years rut.

 

[David 76]

It is never good when we take our frustration and turn it to blaming and insulting 20 year olds. It is like a bad marriage where the same old problem raises its head and soon their both going for the jugular. A lot of my life has been spent trying to handle my frustration better. A

We excuse a lot of bad behavior in the land of fandom

 

[BlueMAB]

I don't know. Look at the shots they have taken all season. Is it a secret they take terrible shots? Can't Hurley get them to stop, or has he lost control of the team? Or maybe he can't tell the difference himself. What do you think?

They have been inconsistent. That's been the theme for AG and CV their entire UConn careers. They haven't taken terrible shots every game, but they have taken terrible shots most games. That happened under Ollie too.

The starting backcourt are shooting poorly because they are taking terrible shots. Vital is a good shooter when he takes good shots. This is a coaching problem, not a player problem.

I must have missed all those bad shots CV and AG didn't take while playing under Ollie. Bad shots cannot simply be summed up as a coaching problem. That's far too simplistic and you know it. Players take bad shots for a number of reasons. Great defensive scheme/execution. Poor offensive scheme/execution. Poor decision making. Fatigue. Typically a combination of the aforementioned variables leads to bad shots. Calling it a "coaching problem" alone is an over-simplified and wholly inaccurate statement.


AG's minutes have already been reduced in favor of Gaffney. The first 8 games Gaffney played a little over 10.5 mpg. The last 4 games he's played 19.5 mpg. Ignoring Buffalo (injured in 1st half), Gilbert played 31.75 mpg over 7 of the first 8 games. The last 4 games he's played just over 23.5 mpg.

 

[The Funster]

In answer to the OP I have never thought it appropriate to attack a college kid. Criticize the performance and discuss strengths and weaknesses frankly are acceptable. Personal attacks are over the line. I thought the tone of this board changed forever after Taliek was roasted here.

 

[superjohn]

They have been inconsistent. That's been the theme for AG and CV their entire UConn careers. They haven't taken terrible shots every game, but they have taken terrible shots most games. That happened under Ollie too.



I must have missed all those bad shots CV and AG didn't take while playing under Ollie. Bad shots cannot simply be summed up as a coaching problem. That's far too simplistic and you know it. Players take bad shots for a number of reasons. Great defensive scheme/execution. Poor offensive scheme/execution. Poor decision making. Fatigue. Typically a combination of the aforementioned variables leads to bad shots. Calling it a "coaching problem" alone is an over-simplified and wholly inaccurate statement.


AG's minutes have already been reduced in favor of Gaffney. The first 8 games Gaffney played a little over 10.5 mpg. The last 4 games he's played 19.5 mpg. Ignoring Buffalo (injured in 1st half), Gilbert played 31.75 mpg over 7 of the first 8 games. The last 4 games he's played just over 23.5 mpg.

I hear you but they've actually been really consistent in taking bad shots and forcing things their whole careers.

 

[tentoes4rings]

The starting backcourt are shooting poorly because they are taking terrible shots. Vital is a good shooter when he takes good shots. This is a coaching problem, not a player problem.

This might be your most ridiculous post yet. Both have taken bad shots their entire careers. Vital is capable of shooting better when he sets his feet, squares his shoulders and takes uncontested shots. Unfortunately he has a history from day 1 of taking ill advised shots, and that’s not Danny Hurley’s fault. Alterique simply isn’t a good shooter, his 3-4 shots amongst the trees only bring his percentage down further. He’s probably a great kid, teammate, calls his grandmother on her birthday.. but he’s not a good shooter.

 

[UofCT]

Why would they want to come here with you saying Hurley is the worst coach ever?

If he said Hurley is the best coach ever would they come?

 

[UCSouth]

for "fans" to just tee off on players on this board? Posters have just been trashing Carlton, Vital and Gilbert, and Gaffney and Whalley have caught some fire in the last few hours too. When did making generalized attacks against players become OK on this board? I am not talking about specific criticism of some feature of a player's game or their limitations. We have many posters on this site stating they don't want some of these players to play for UConn anymore.

Why would any recruit want to come to UConn after reading this board?

I want a list of the posters who just trash players from a position of total entitlement and ignorance, so I will know never to read their posts again.

Too many armchair coaches on the board. If these kids were getting paid....blast away at them. Blast Hurley, blast his concepts, his offense, his defense....whatever you are inclined to do. Leave the players out of the blast zone. So, with that being said, why don't all of the supposed adults on here....grow up, or better yet go to the football board and take it out on the Administration and their shortsighted lack of support.

 

[polycom]

This team, this year, has bubble team talent. Let's see what Hurley does with them the rest of the year.

yeah this is false. Straight up fake news.

 

[UCSouth]

It’s sports. Can’t take the heat don’t play.

When did The Boneyard become a sport? What is the sport....Mental Jousting?

 

[superjohn]

Too many armchair coaches on the board. If these kids were getting paid....blast away at them. Blast Hurley, blast his concepts, his offense, his defense....whatever you are inclined to do. Leave the players out of the blast zone. So, with that being said, why don't all of the supposed adults on here....grow up, or better yet go to the football board and take it out on the Administration and their shortsighted lack of support.

This board and no other fan board would exist if people aren't supposed to talk about how the players play.

 

[gampelcrazies]

When did The Boneyard become a sport? What is the sport....Mental Jousting?

The OP was inferring that recruits won't come here if they read the-boneyard. If they can't take heat from fans when they play bad then don't play sports. Every fanbase is the same.

 

[Scoe]

You're a whole different category. I do agree with your first para on not lighting up specific players, but damn, in the chats you are about as depressing at it gets.

If the Huskies made a movie, you'd have the Randy Quaid role from Major League II.

What’s said in text form is different then what’s said in real life, I have made the mistake of getting excited about the hiring of Bob Diaco and Randy Edsall 2.0 and recent Giants and Knicks Head Coaches and been let down so now I’m at a point now where it’s a wait and see before I give you praise 3 dreadful years in a row not to mention being a Knicks and Giants will make you lose positivity.

I’m not even so much mad it’s about not getting my hopes up anymore until the team shows me something. My new stance is win and I’ll give you the credit, when Hurley clinches a winning then I’ll give him credit.