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What if Bouknight adds the “fake floater” to his game in the offseason?

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The cousin to the crab dribble..legal by rule. Do we go undefeated and win the National championship by 30?

 
Yup..he just has to pull the refs aside before the game and demonstrate.
 
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Kenny11 said:
The cousin to the crab dribble..legal by rule. Do we go undefeated and win the National championship by 30?

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What's with the crab dribble hate?. It's been legal at least since my dad was playing in the late 60s early 70s.
 
Kenny11 said:
I think this move could revive my own career
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Huskyforlife said:
How is that not a travel? He clearly jumps, and takes 2 steps after.
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Same reason why James hardens stepback isn’t a travel. I remember watching an espn video on it, I believe it’s because that first step is technically not while he’s holding the ball. Same applies here.

But agreed, college refs will blow this all day. Especially AAC refs
 
That's a travel. That's not a step, or a stride, it's a jump. Nobody steps or runs like that, just because he's gathering the ball, doesn't mean he isn't jumping,

It's a jump stop without the stop, and instead two additional steps. It's a travel.
 
So this is essentially arguing that an up-and-down is no longer a travel as long as you launch of the planted foot, which is incredibly untrue. This will get called every time.

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^This is an up-and-down, not a step. Dude is in the air.
 
krinklecut said:
So this is essentially arguing that an up-and-down is no longer a travel as long as you launch of the planted foot, which is incredibly untrue. This will get called every time.

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^This is an up-and-down, not a step. Dude is in the air.
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If you were to take a screen shot mid “euro step” wouldn’t it look similar?
 
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The "gather" step is the first post dribble pivot foot. Period. You are allowed a second pivot foot. Which is the foot he lands on after the hop. At that point he out of pivots. When he lands on the third step he has moved his pivot foot and established a new pivot. Even worse, he moves the third pivot before the shot. This is not legal. It may be allowed but it isn't legal using the rules.

The question is whether his first step occurs before or after finishing his dribble? Since he is pushing off the first pivot and continuing to a shooting motion, I would contend he cannot be dribbling.
 
Legal in the NBA because they allow the gather step. Not legal at any level below that (except FIBA). As mentioned, the player's pivot foot is the left foot when the dribble ends (two hands on ball ends the dribble). As soon as the left foot returns back to the floor, a travel would be the correct call. The jump from left foot to right foot is perfectly legal.
 
Palatine said:
The "gather" step is the first post dribble pivot foot. Period. You are allowed a second pivot foot. Which is the foot he lands on after the hop. At that point he out of pivots. When he lands on the third step he has moved his pivot foot and established a new pivot. Even worse, he moves the third pivot before the shot. This is not legal. It may be allowed but it isn't legal using the rules.

The question is whether his first step occurs before or after finishing his dribble? Since he is pushing off the first pivot and continuing to a shooting motion, I would contend he cannot be dribbling.
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To me, in the video it’s pretty clear he’s gathering the ball after the first/launch step is planted, so he gets two more steps. What he does after the plant foot doesn’t change when the gather happens.

Think about it, at the moment in time the foot is planted, he could still go into another dribble. You can’t go back in time and declare that he actually had already gathered the ball depending on what he does next.
 
FlippinCrazy! said:
Think about it, at the moment in time the foot is planted, he could still go into another dribble. You can’t go back in time and declare that he actually had already gathered the ball depending on what he does next.
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I don't think so, he puts two hands on the ball with the foot still on the floor. So he couldn't continue the dribble.
 
This looks like the move Kemba used on his game winner vs Nova on MLK in 2011
Which I always felt looked like a travel
 
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It's a travel all day plain and simple. And so is every step back by Harden no denying it.

 
Palatine said:
I don't think so, he puts two hands on the ball with the foot still on the floor. So he couldn't continue the dribble.
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Yeah but when his foot is first planted he doesn’t have two hands on the ball. He gathers it after the foot is planted, so he gets two more steps.
 
mauconnfan said:
It's a travel all day plain and simple. And so is every step back by Harden no denying it.

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CV got upset when he got called for a travel on the Harden move this year. But it is a travel.
 
It's a travel where I come from. If you land with 2 feet, like a brief hop step, you might get away with one more gather step - but what the video shows is utterly ridiculous and an absolute travel.
 
EDouble said:
You have to push the envelope. Many haterz (including billy packer) accused Chris Smith of carrying on his cross over.

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That is true, but you have to remember, Billy Packer was not the most objective announcer ever, that is for sure. His disdain for all things UCONN goes back in time prior to his announcing of the 1999 National Championship game.
 
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