What are you binge watching?

[storrsroars]

I assume you're joking with these posts and throwing around the chauvinism word but I do remember old timers in CT back in the day honestly thinking the undefeated UConn women's basketball team could beat the UConn men's basketball team. The reality is Geno could put together a group of guys on campus who could beat the undefeated women's basketball team.

correct

A guy throwing you around obviously has nothing to do with anything.

speed, training, focused impact

Just going off the physical deficit alone it's unbelievably difficult for women to overcome the strength deficit they're at. That's why there was always much different physical standards. The strength isn't some negligible difference or some 30% or 50% difference you may read somewhere, it's massive.

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I've been going to gyms most of my life and between the average male and female lifter you can expect a 100% difference in bench press. That goes for every other upper body lift.

most "normal" men haven't been in weight room most of their lives. I'll stand by my statement that a woman trained in martial arts would have a distinct fighting advantage over most of those guys

There's hardly any women on any elite tactical teams and there's never been a woman Navy Seal.

irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's not about elite vs elite, it's about 'regular guy' vs female with fighting skills

Women are better than men at a lot of things and I wouldn't argue against someone who said women are better than men at most things but this is beyond silly.

see above - the point you're trying to make is not the point I'm trying to make

 

[superjohn]

correct

speed, training, focused impact

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most "normal" men haven't been in weight room most of their lives. I'll stand by my statement that a woman trained in martial arts would have a distinct fighting advantage over most of those guys

irrelevant to the point I'm making. It's not about elite vs elite, it's about 'regular guy' vs female with fighting skills

see above - the point you're trying to make is not the point I'm trying to make

I said average lifters at gyms, not most "normal" men or women. An average guy going to the gym for the first time is going to max bench press 100% more weight than an average woman going to the gym for the first time will max bench press.

Again, your point about a guy throwing you around has nothing to do with the discussion.

Elite tactical teams has everything to do with the discussion. In real life obviously a woman built like Emily Blunt wouldn't be a door kicker involved with going after cartels.

 

[HuskyNan]

I'm betting Zoo is not a representative male specimen. Seems soft to me.

ftr, was once clowning around with a guy 8" shorter and 70# lighter than me. He was trying to show me some moves he learned in dojo. He wasnt even at brown belt status. Unfortunately he didn't pull his thrust early enough and tagged me in the solar plexus. I went down in a heap and it took a couple minutes to get wind back.

Im a believer that martial arts training is an equalizer. You've probably seen MMA footage of smaller women taking down larger guys.

I don't get the chauvinism with y'all. Type of stuff you'd usually hear from in-cels.

It’s not chauvinism to acknowledge that women are physically smaller and relatively weaker than men. Years ago, I saw the USA women’s hockey team, which ultimately won the gold medal, play the Choate boys hockey team. The 17-18 year old boys were 6’+ tall and probably had 30-50 pounds on the women. Even though the women were highly skilled, they essentially got run over by the boys.

A 100 lb woman with martial arts training stands a better chance of defending herself against an average sized man but all the man needs to do is wrap her up in a bear hug. Believe me, I’ve had many self defense classes and there’s a good reason #1 on the list of Best Things To Do If Threatened is “run like hell”.

Now, if gold medal winning rugby player Ilona Maher gets attacked by an average guy, my money is on her. (5’10”, 198 lb)

 

[nwhoopfan]

Wow, this has really taken on a life of its own.

What do people think of Gina Carano's movies in this regard? She of course is an actual trained fighter, and she's got a compact build and is clearly more than 100 lbs. I thought she was believable fighting against men in stuff like Haywire and In the Blood.

 

[storrsroars]

Again, your point about a guy throwing you around has nothing to do with the discussion.

oddly I've never been thrown around, nor did I mention anything like that in this thread.

You make it difficult to take you seriously when you don't read. If you want to talk elite vs elite, fine, but either you or Zoo went to the universal no regular/normal guy can get taken out by a 100lb woman. And that's simply not true.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Most of the way thru "Running Point." It's not hilarious, but it elicits quite a few chuckles from me. These days, that's a home run for comedy, since most of it isn't funny at all. I think I like the minor characters more than the main ones. Max Greenfield and Scott MacArthur are comedy gold. I like Brenda Song too. However Justin Theroux's character is absolutely terrible and I think drags the whole show down. They gotta get rid of him.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I have to see Sicario again. The only woman I remember being in the movie is Emily Blunt. The whole point seemed to be she was the naive by the books federal government person going into a land where nothing is by the books. She was in way over her head and her naivety and meek look was our lens as a viewer into a world we could never truly understand where nothing is black and white and by the books. She was a hugely important part of the storytelling. I'm sure there's other women in it, family of the cartel members but the world of Mexican cartels and the elite tactical units trying to take them down is a man's world and it takes a certain type of man.

It's incredibly rare for women to be a part of elite tactical units. As you point out you aren't going to see a physically weak woman like Emily Blunt in that role in real life so suspension of disbelief has to kick in as a viewer. It was used for the storytelling and wasn't believable but I don't see how it was sexist.

I will disagree with two parts of this post:

1) Every Sheriden movie and show is all about black and white. Every milieu of Sheriden's has a couple of alpha conservative males kicking ass, a bunch of brawny beta males worshipping the alphas, and you can tell the bad guys from the good guys just by looking at them. For example, if the cartels were these evil geniuses, they would never have sent two cars of tatted up meth-heads to the border shootout scene. Sheriden wanted the cartel members to look like stereotypes.

2) Emily Blunt was in the movie for star power and because Sheriden likes to write about near sexual assaults where the alpha male protagonist rescues the helpless female. Blunt must have been paid really well to be in this movie, because she is smart enough to identify the problems with this script on a first read.

Zoo's defense of Sheriden has convinced me that he is a sexist, racist creep, and I will not watch any more of his work. Thank you @ZooCougar

 

[ZooCougar]

I'm betting Zoo is not a representative male specimen. Seems soft to me.

ftr, was once clowning around with a guy 8" shorter and 70# lighter than me. He was trying to show me some moves he learned in dojo. He wasnt even at brown belt status. Unfortunately he didn't pull his thrust early enough and tagged me in the solar plexus. I went down in a heap and it took a couple minutes to get wind back.

Im a believer that martial arts training is an equalizer. You've probably seen MMA footage of smaller women taking down larger guys.

I don't get the chauvinism with y'all. Type of stuff you'd usually hear from in-cels.

Dude, what part of the gear she would be carrying would weigh as much as her do you not understand?

If she actually trained for MMA she wouldn’t look like a 100lb waif in that film.

 

[ZooCougar]

I will disagree with two parts of this post:

1) Every Sheriden movie and show is all about black and white. Every milieu of Sheriden's has a couple of alpha conservative males kicking ass, a bunch of brawny beta males worshipping the alphas, and you can tell the bad guys from the good guys just by looking at them. For example, if the cartels were these evil geniuses, they would never have sent two cars of tatted up meth-heads to the border shootout scene. Sheriden wanted the cartel members to look like stereotypes.

2) Emily Blunt was in the movie for star power and because Sheriden likes to write about near sexual assaults where the alpha male protagonist rescues the helpless female. Blunt must have been paid really well to be in this movie, because she is smart enough to identify the problems with this script on a first read.

Zoo's defense of Sheriden has convinced me that he is a sexist, racist creep, and I will not watch any more of his work. Thank you @ZooCougar

Nonsense.

Sicario is loaded with shades of gray.

 

[nwhoopfan]

So...anyone binge watching anything? Or just too preoccupied obsessing and arguing about Sicario?

 

[HuskyNan]

Dude, what part of the gear she would be carrying would weigh as much as her do you not understand?

If she actually trained for MMA she wouldn’t look like a 100lb waif in that film.

Women do carry 100 lbs, though

What a strange turn this thread has taken

 

[ZooCougar]

Women do carry 100 lbs, though

What a strange turn this thread has taken

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100lb women don’t carry 100lb loads well. Neither do small men. This isn’t about being sexist. She is part of the FBI’s most elite tactical unit. She would be way more buff to deal with the weapons, body armor, ammunition, breaching equipment and the strong possibility direct contact with adversaries that she would have to physically restrain. If you think that’s weird then I don’t know what else to tell you.

 

[storrsroars]

Dude, what part of the gear she would be carrying would weigh as much as her do you not understand?

If she actually trained for MMA she wouldn’t look like a 100lb waif in that film.

You're hanging out with the wrong women 😉

 

[CL82]

Would you cast Stephen Hawking as a Viking?

I'm not going to lie, that is a movie I would watch.

 

[CL82]

I started watching Tulsa King. I'm probably a couple of episodes in. So far, it's good. It is a perfect vehicle for Stallone at this age. There is just enough physicality to make use of his bulk and just enough comedy to make use of his deadpan delivery. The Stallone character having just gotten out of prison makes that delivery seem plausible as he seems to be taking in the Tulsa world around him. Supporting actors seem pretty good as well.

 

[ZooCougar]

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Did you see this?

 

[CL82]

Did you see this?

I did! It is also a movie I would watch!

 

[Palatine]

James Marsden has made Your friends and Neighbors very watchable in season two.