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Wetzel: Cuse will regret move to ACC

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Vuce said:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basket...l_syracuse_big_east_storied_era_ending_030812

“I think it’ll be like Boston College [which left for the ACC in 2005], only on a different scale,” Naclerio said. “Deep, deep inside, Boston College has to admit that leaving the Big East was a mistake. They’ve never been the same.”
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Yes, because BC owned the Big East when they were here.

Same s***, better weather.
 
The problem with all these Down With The ACC posts is that we really still might end up there. And most of us would be glad for it.
 
The Boeheim quote a little perplexing. He says it's not the same BE, if they had the old BE, he'd rather be there.

I'm sorry, but G'town, UConn, Nova, Louisville, St. John's are still around.

I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how the loss of Pittsburgh means the old BE is gone. I understand the problem on the football side but the basketball side? No. I'm not blaming Syracuse for leaving, but Syracuse leaving was the biggest factor in all the changes.
 
upstater said:
The Boeheim quote a little perplexing. He says it's not the same BE, if they had the old BE, he'd rather be there.

I'm sorry, but G'town, UConn, Nova, Louisville, St. John's are still around.

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They tried to leave the old Big East too.
 
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Inyatkin said:
The problem with all these Down With The ACC posts is that we really still might end up there. And most of us would be glad for it.
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I don't even think it is down with the ACC. If and when Uconn goes there I will not be happy about it though I will understand why. Playing at MSG will be virtually non existant. It is just a shame is all. We have to go if invited but it will suck in lots of ways.
 
When the NCAA hammer drops, Cuse won't be the same either
 
Vuce said:
I don't even think it is down with the ACC. If and when Uconn goes there I will not be happy about it though I will understand why. Playing at MSG will be virtually non existant. It is just a shame is all. We have to go if invited but it will suck in lots of ways.
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No, I get it. And it's really too bad. Winning the Big East tournament means something. And to have it all fall apart is no fun.
 
BC didn't rule the Big East but at least they were relevant every couple of years. They'd make the tourney, make a little noise every once in a while. Since their move the ACC they might as well just abort their sports programs. Are they one of the worst football/basketball combination in the Power 6 conferences the last few years? They feel like Northwestern to me, though that may be a shot at the Wildcats.

Cuse will regret the move obviously, their football program will remain terrible and once Boehiem is gone the program will dwindle in the two-team conference known as the ACC. Pitt will be the same. Neither will benefit a lick from going to the ACC. But hey, they'll make more money...I guess...
 
anyone else get the vibe that jamie dixon or jay wright will be coaching somewhere else next year like illinois for example?
 
To be honest with you, i think deep down Boeheim hates it. Within a few days after the move was announced he was very critical then he quickly changed his tune. He has no other choice but to go along with it now and say nothing but good things. If he was critical of it then that would be a slap in the face to the university and put out a negative vibe on the future of the program. Mike Tranghese did say he does not think we will see Jim Boeheim actually coach in the ACC. Lets face it, who would ever want to leave behind days like today?
 
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upstater said:
The Boeheim quote a little perplexing. He says it's not the same BE, if they had the old BE, he'd rather be there.

I'm sorry, but G'town, UConn, Nova, Louisville, St. John's are still around.

I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how the loss of Pittsburgh means the old BE is gone. I understand the problem on the football side but the basketball side? No. I'm not blaming Syracuse for leaving, but Syracuse leaving was the biggest factor in all the changes.
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he's referring to when there were only nine teams, all northeast playing home and home round robin schedule. it's already watered down with midwestern teams and only three home and homes.
 
Ts5034 said:
To be honest with you, i think deep down Boeheim hates it. Within a few days after the move was announced he was very critical then he quickly changed his tune. He has no other choice but to go along with it now and say nothing but good things. If he was critical of it then that would be a slap in the face to the university and put out a negative vibe on the future of the program. Mike Tranghese did say he does not think we will see Jim Boeheim actually coach in the ACC. Lets face it, who would ever want to leave behind days like today?
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I agree. I doubt Boeheim, Dixon or Huggins like what has happened at all.
 
Robertelamin said:
I agree. I doubt Boeheim, Dixon or Huggins like what has happened at all.
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Of course not. Pitino doesn't want to leave either. What basketball person would want to leave the greatest conference in the country?

The problem is that their opinion matter not one iota. It's a football decision being made by university presidents.
 
Robertelamin said:
I agree. I doubt Boeheim, Dixon or Huggins like what has happened at all.
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I remember when ND was playing Pitt, they asked Huggins what he thought. He said, "I only root for BE teams. Go Notre Dame."

Then all this went down.
 
To me the quotes from Jardine are the most telling:

It’s the best tournament in the country,” said Orange guard Scoop Jardine, a senior from Philadelphia. “Of course I’m going to say that because I play for Syracuse, but I really believe that. It’s New York City. It’s Madison Square Garden. It’s the Mecca of basketball. It’s a great atmosphere.
“That was one of the main reasons I went to Syracuse, to play in the Big East tournament. I do feel bad for [future Orange players who won’t get the chance to experience it].”

Coaches and administrators can spin things any way they want, but Jardine was speaking from his heart.
 
Jaker said:
When the NCAA hammer drops, Cuse won't be the same either
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Cuse will be one of the chosen ones in the ACC. They will be protected by the dome of innocence that prevents ACC teams from facing scrutiny or playing tournament games before the FF on neutral courts.
 
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Football controls everything in collegiate sports. With Syracuse & Pitt joining the ACC it'll make bcu less of an ACC blacksheep. I don't believe the ACC will make any of those 3 teams any better (football or hoops) but most of the schools, in the ACC, are on the same plain regarding football first, then basketball. Even though the ACC has more popularity with hoops.
The BE has basketball only schools making decisions with/against football & hoops schools. Plus, the mess known as ND. I can't blame anyone for bolting.
When it's all over, my guess is Louisville, Rutgers, & UConn will join other leagues. Boise State would join the PAC 10 in a minute. More likely the B-12 for them. Who knows what ND will do. If they lose that NBC contract they may have to comprimise and join some league. Probably the B1G.
 
Yonick said:
Football controls everything in collegiate sports. With Syracuse & Pitt joining the ACC it'll make bcu less of an ACC blacksheep. I don't believe the ACC will make any of those 3 teams any better (football or hoops) but most of the schools, in the ACC, are on the same plain regarding football first, then basketball. Even though the ACC has more popularity with hoops.
The BE has basketball only schools making decisions with/against football & hoops schools. Plus, the mess known as ND. I can't blame anyone for bolting.
When it's all over, my guess is Louisville, Rutgers, & UConn will join other leagues. Boise State would join the PAC 10 in a minute. More likely the B-12 for them. Who knows what ND will do. If they lose that NBC contract they may have to comprimise and join some league. Probably the B1G.
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We all know it is about football except maybe John Marinatto.
 
Between this and the drug scandal, this hatchet job is starting to remind me of what Yahoo did to UConn back in 2009 (especially the timing of it).
 
UConn990411 said:
Between this and the drug scandal, this hatchet job is starting to remind me of what Yahoo did to UConn back in 2009 (especially the timing of it).
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Quite perceptive of you! I can't believe Wetzel hasn't choked to death on the squid's shmegma (sp?) yet.
 
This is what Yahoo does. They target a top team every year based on two things: (1) The team isn't coached by Calipari; and (2) The team isn't coached by Calipari.
 
Syracuse will regret moving to the ACC in roughly never.

It's not perfect and in a perfect world, they'd rather be in the Big East with Miami, BC and Penn State, but that rocket blew up on the launch pad.

So they left and they won't spend a heck of a lot of time looking back.

Beoheim is right. What we're looking at going forward will be called the Big East but it's more big than east and it's nothing like what it was back in the day.

I hope we are not here long.
 
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All BB schools will regret the move. It may take 3-4 years to see the results but they will have a hard time getting the kids from NYC,Jersey, Philly, their major recruiting areas. These kids don't want to play in the ACC. Have you ever been to Greensboro, it's the horrible. It has a Mall and that's it!!
 
mcs333 said:
All BB schools will regret the move. It may take 3-4 years to see the results but they will have a hard time getting the kids from NYC,Jersey, Philly, their major recruiting areas. These kids don't want to play in the ACC. Have you ever been to Greensboro, it's the horrible. It has a Mall and that's it!!
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You do realize that these schools recruit nationally. Elton Brand and Jay Williams, off the top of my head, are from the NY-NJ area.
 
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