Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

[NE Football]

BCU being so bad in football actually hurts us in getting a P4 offer. The rest of the country views New England as a hockey hot bed. There are very few football recruits in New England, thus no reason to invite any team from New England

 

[Kolumbo]

BCU being so bad in football actually hurts us in getting a P4 offer. The rest of the country views New England as a hockey hot bed. There are very few football recruits in New England, thus no reason to invite any team from New England

I'm not so sure about that. There was an article about NE being a football hotbed with all the prep schools. And even if there aren't so many recruits, the Northeast has viewers. It's clear bcu has done squat for the ACC but it's a private school with no support. UConn as the biggest flagship brand in New England is an entirely different story.

 

[Hoophound]

I'm not so sure about that. There was an article about NE being a football hotbed with all the prep schools. And even if there aren't so many recruits, the Northeast has viewers. It's clear bcu has done squat for the ACC but it's a private school with no support. UConn as the biggest flagship brand in New England is an entirely different story.

The prep schools are the a huge help in all sports. If we had a P2 affiliation we’d take a ton of those players. Not sure a P4 designation is what we’d always hoped. I’m kind of disheartened that our best lifeline is most likely a bid to a “power” conference with no power at all.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

ACC championship game: Duke vs UVA

pfft

 

[UConnTrumbull]

ACC championship game: Duke vs UVA

pfft

THIS LEAGUE!

 

[JwittersPAC]

The prep schools are the a huge help in all sports. If we had a P2 affiliation we’d take a ton of those players. Not sure a P4 designation is what we’d always hoped. I’m kind of disheartened that our best lifeline is most likely a bid to a “power” conference with no power at all.

Yeah P2 designation working wonders for Rutgers. lol The issue is New England and most of the North East just does not have that atmosphere that the South and Midwest has for college football. College football is a religion in the South.

 

[JwittersPAC]

What has happened in the ACC will drive the CFP in the future to just take the top 12 ranked teams. Of course that would make it near to imposiible for G6 to make the CFP. There goes Mora’s dreams. Lol

 

[ScottVib]

What has happened in the ACC will drive the CFP in the future to just take the top 12 ranked teams. Of course that would make it near to imposiible for G6 to make the CFP. There goes Mora’s dreams. Lol

Particularly if Duke wins... if Duke wins there's a very real chance the ACC ends up with 0 teams in the field (even more so if BYU wins the Big XII)

 

[UConnTrumbull]

What has happened in the ACC will drive the CFP in the future to just take the top 12 ranked teams. Of course that would make it near to imposiible for G6 to make the CFP. There goes Mora’s dreams. Lol

You just know Sankey and Petitti have their speeches ready for when Duke wins and gets left out of the CFP. This is their you-know-what dream. They can now call it a de facto P2 out loud.

 

[ScottVib]

The end result of this is the ACC will move Playoff Poll rank to the top of the tiebreaker list (much as the conferences used to put the highest BCS ranking in the tiebreak); and eliminate things like common opponent.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Particularly if Duke wins... if Duke wins there's a very real chance the ACC ends up with 0 teams in the field (even more so if BYU wins the Big XII)

One thing that I've seen suggested that i don't believe voukd happen is no ACC schools and two G level schools.

I cannot see them justifying two G level champions at the cost of a P level, even if it is legitimately warranted as it would set a very dangerous precedent that they would want nothing to do with.

Yes, eventually this will be primarily P-2 schools with a few non P-2's sprinkled in for alleged fair access, but they aren't going to give any additional access to G level schools, even now, before the P-2's started lining up every at-large spot.

 

[gsmooth]

BC does deliver at least some of the Chestnut Hill market.

I live in Boston as some other people here on the BoneYard. I can tell you and they can also tell you BC is a tiny blip, if that, on the attention of any Boston sports fan.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I live in Boston as some other people here on the BoneYard. I can tell you and they can also tell you BC is a tiny blip, if that, on the attention of any Boston sports fan.

And 70% of that blip is the Beanpot.

If it weren't for their men's ice hockey team the city of Boston wouldn't know BC existed.

 

[jostar1]

 

[ScottVib]

The bottom of the league had an outsized impact on the tiebreakers by dragging down the other teams and dragging down the conference opponents record of everyone else. Duke ended up 4 wins clear of everyone else's conference opponent record.

While they didn't beat any of the good teams, they're schedule had enough mediocre teams to pass everyone else, simply by avoiding playing the bottom (FSU, UNC, Va. Tech, Syracuse & BC); everyone else played at least 3 of them. Duke also benefitted by being the only team to face Virginia among the tie, giving them a bonus win (while SMU got hammered by only facing one of the other tied teams).

Duke (opponent wins 32)
Miami (28) (ahead of Georgia Tech with common opponent win over Pitt)
Ga. Tech (28)
SMU (27) (ahead of Pitt with common opponent win over Miami)
Pitt (27)

 

[Hoophound]

Yeah P2 designation working wonders for Rutgers. lol The issue is New England and most of the North East just does not have that atmosphere that the South and Midwest has for college football. College football is a religion in the South.

We aren’t Rutgers. We have a much better fan base. Not sure if you were around during our Big East football days, but it was fantastic. I’m in Florida and I am in a family of Florida and FSU fans. I’ve been to a lot of games. UConn would show out just fine in a P2. Our fans simply want to play football at a championship level. That’s what happens when you pile up natties in other sports. If we play big time football, we will have a big time fan experience. The Duke game showed you everything you need to know. Send a competitive team out to play a decent brand name competitor and the stadium is near full and the crowd is great. Give us a steady diet of that and we’ll be sold out all the time.

 

[Kolumbo]

We aren’t Rutgers. We have a much better fan base. Not sure if you were around during our Big East football days, but it was fantastic. I’m in Florida and I am in a family of Florida and FSU fans. I’ve been to a lot of games. UConn would show out just fine in a P2. Our fans simply want to play football at a championship level. That’s what happens when you pile up natties in other sports. If we play big time football, we will have a big time fan experience. The Duke game showed you everything you need to know. Send a competitive team out to play a decent brand name competitor and the stadium is near full and the crowd is great. Give us a steady diet of that and we’ll be sold out all the time.

Yeah P2 designation working wonders for Rutgers. lol The issue is New England and most of the North East just does not have that atmosphere that the South and Midwest has for college football. College football is a religion in the South.

Plus it's all really relative. Not to defend rutgers, but it jumped into the Big freaking Ten. I don't think anyone expected rutgers to win the conference except maybe some of their fans but it's not getting blown out every weekend. It just missed going bowling by 4 points to PSU.

Now look at Va Tech, syracuse, bcu, wvu. just awful this year. Throw in Pitt, Cinci, Louisville, Temple. All of these programs would have benefited by keeping together a more regional football conference rather than splintering off to 4 different conferences. These football programs in the Northeast/North Atlantic would have been just fine.

 

[Hondo 77]

YawnACC championship game: Duke vs UVA

pfft

 

[JwittersPAC]

We aren’t Rutgers. We have a much better fan base. Not sure if you were around during our Big East football days, but it was fantastic. I’m in Florida and I am in a family of Florida and FSU fans. I’ve been to a lot of games. UConn would show out just fine in a P2. Our fans simply want to play football at a championship level. That’s what happens when you pile up natties in other sports. If we play big time football, we will have a big time fan experience. The Duke game showed you everything you need to know. Send a competitive team out to play a decent brand name competitor and the stadium is near full and the crowd is great. Give us a steady diet of that and we’ll be sold out all the time.

yeah I disagree. But it is a moot point anyway since UConn is not getting a P2 invite. Just like another 90 or so FBS schools.

 

[Hoophound]

yeah I disagree. But it is a moot point anyway since UConn is not getting a P2 invite. Just like another 90 or so FBS schools.

You don’t really need to disagree on everything. We had the Rent regularly sold out in the Big East. True story. It’s an opponent problem. You can’t take a school out of a power conference and expect their fans to love it.

 

[Blades]

We aren’t Rutgers. We have a much better fan base. Not sure if you were around during our Big East football days, but it was fantastic. I’m in Florida and I am in a family of Florida and FSU fans. I’ve been to a lot of games. UConn would show out just fine in a P2. Our fans simply want to play football at a championship level. That’s what happens when you pile up natties in other sports. If we play big time football, we will have a big time fan experience. The Duke game showed you everything you need to know. Send a competitive team out to play a decent brand name competitor and the stadium is near full and the crowd is great. Give us a steady diet of that and we’ll be sold out all the time.

YEP......Facts.......
Games/Avg Per Game /Capacity % 40,000 seat stadium /record
2003- 6/ 37059 92.6% (First year at Rentschler Field- Independent 9-3 )
2004- 7/ 39304 98.3% (8-4, joins BE early w/ loss of Va Tech, Miami & BC to ACC )
2005- 6/ 40000 100% (5-6)
2006- 7/ 38939 97.3% (4-8)
2007- 7/ 38205 95.5% ( Co-Big East Champion 9-4 )
2008- 6/ 39331 98.3% (8-5)
2009- 6/ 38229 95.6% (8-5)
2010- 6/ 38248 95.6% ( Big East Champion 8-5)
First 8 year avg. = 38,664 ---97% capacity

(BE starts to crumble and below .500 but still ave close to 36K)
2011- 7/ 36668 91.7% 5-7 record
2012- 6/ 34672 86.6% (Last year of BE/5-7 record)

 

[WrenchFan69]

It's time for the ACC to add UConn. They need to do something for their 9 game football schedule and I don't believe there's a better or more serious option.

We beat their football champ straight up. Beat BC. Should have beaten Syracuse. Have more wins over ACC opponents in the last two years than Florida State. Then we made a great hire and continued to invest in the sport. All without real media revenue. Plus basketball, baseball, and soccer success. And the geographic footprint works.

ESPN allegedly already agreed to pay pro rata to add us to their portion of the B12 deal and they should be drooling at the opportunity to get our men's and women's basketball teams back on their networks full time.

 

[JVN]

Didn't the ACC recently give FSU and Clemson de facto veto power to keep them from bolting? What makes us think they are suddenly going to welcome us to the league as long as they remain members?

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Didn't the ACC recently give FSU and Clemson de facto veto power to keep them from bolting? What makes us think they are suddenly going to welcome us to the league as long as they remain members?

UConn is not being added until/unless those two leave. Or any combination of UNC/UVa/Miami

 

[CTBballfan243]

Also, if UConn does get added they will want us to take the same deal as SMU. Precedence has been set.

 

[uconnyankee]

Also, if UConn does get added they will want us to take the same deal as SMU. Precedence has been set.

Would be interesting if that was proposed. I don’t think UConn takes a backwards step financially

 

[SU1968]

Would be interesting if that was proposed. I don’t think UConn takes a backwards step financially

Does the $$ UConn get from nBE equal or less than an ACC basketball share? If so, that might make a SMU deal more viable.

 

[ZooCougar]

It's time for the ACC to add UConn. They need to do something for their 9 game football schedule and I don't believe there's a better or more serious option.

We beat their football champ straight up. Beat BC. Should have beaten Syracuse. Have more wins over ACC opponents in the last two years than Florida State. Then we made a great hire and continued to invest in the sport. All without real media revenue. Plus basketball, baseball, and soccer success. And the geographic footprint works.

ESPN allegedly already agreed to pay pro rata to add us to their portion of the B12 deal and they should be drooling at the opportunity to get our men's and women's basketball teams back on their networks full time.

JMU says hello.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If they offered us full share for all sports except football (which i imagine has to be more than our BE revenue) and a reasonable (maybe 20% of a full share) football payout, gradually increasing to a full share over a certain number of years or further realignment, whichever comes first, we should jump at it.

 

[How Sway?!]

JMU says hello.

They don't have a big enough brand / alumni base.