Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

[JwittersPAC]

Clearly it doesn't, or at least BC can't capitalize on their position. They should be set up for success and fans more than dozens of other programs but fail miserably, hence my points

I just think you are thinking from a perspective of a student who is top of their class and then Boston with many elite schools makes sense. But Boston is a Pro Sport town which has shown little interest in college football. People I know that went to Midwest schools (OSU, Michigan) and worked in Boston were surprise how most of the bars on Saturday do not even have college football games on.

 

[hank970]

What does that have to do to attract 4 and 5 star football players mostly located in the south?

There are exceptions, of course, but let me hazard a guess that the vast majority of 4 and 5-star recruits in the south aren't even remotely interested in the academic reputations of schools in the Boston metro. Their focus is on a starting role, NIL, frequent media exposure, and an eventual shot at the pros. If they can earn a degree in general studies or can get a teaching credential wherever they matriculate, the ones who don't make the big time will at least have accomplished something.

 

[upstater]

I wanted to go to college in Boston pretty badly. I passed up Ivy league acceptances to go to college in Boston. So... I certainly agree that it's the best place to go to college. My experiences in the city just reinforced my decision. I would certainly take it 99.9x to 1 over, say, Ann Arbor, where I lived for a couple years.

 

[JwittersPAC]

I wanted to go to college in Boston pretty badly. I passed up Ivy league acceptances to go to college in Boston. So... I certainly agree that it's the best place to go to college. My experiences in the city just reinforced my decision. I would certainly take it 99.9x to 1 over, say, Ann Arbor, where I lived for a couple years.

Were you a 5 star football recruit? Boston is not a college football town.

 

[Hoophound]

I wanted to go to college in Boston pretty badly. I passed up Ivy league acceptances to go to college in Boston. So... I certainly agree that it's the best place to go to college. My experiences in the city just reinforced my decision. I would certainly take it 99.9x to 1 over, say, Ann Arbor, where I lived for a couple years.

I loved living in Boston after college and still visit fairly often. It’s an amazing city. However, I’m a Catholic, suburban CT native that grew up 90 minutes away and thought childhood trips there for sporting events, historic sites, museums and aquariums were fun. I was not a Baptist or Southern Methodist 4* football player from rural South Georgia or Roanoke VA. Those kids have a much different perspective.

I chose Boston over NYC at first for several reasons, one being that I liked to ski and wanted to be closer to good mountains in NH and VT. My kids are Florida natives and while they like skiing, only my son ultimately pulls the trigger on going now and then at this point. My daughters pretty much always say they only want to go to our VT house June-October these days. They hate the cold.

They would all skip a religious affiliated school. They were raised Christian with a lackluster effort on our part to get them to church now and then. They did attend day camps etc at church in summer. Those were at a United Methodist church that was very breezy and open minded by Methodist standards. However, while my kids know that my whole side of the family is Catholic, I think they consider being Catholic kind of like being Jewish. It’s different than “Christian” to them. Many times I’ve heard people in the South say things like, “Oh, is Bob a Christian?” “No, I think he’s Catholic.” It’s just such a different world in the South and rural Midwest than New England, NY and NJ.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Saying Boston is a great city for colleges and universities and saying g kids from around the world aspire to attend some of those universities isn't a hot take.

Saying Boston is the best city of any P4 university is a wild take.

 

[cellocgg]

Saying Boston is a great city for colleges and universities and saying g kids from around the world aspire to attend some of those universities isn't a hot take.

Saying Boston is the best city of any P4 university is a wild take.

What's better then? LA?

 

[ZooCougar]

Saying Boston is a great city for colleges and universities and saying g kids from around the world aspire to attend some of those universities isn't a hot take.

Saying Boston is the best city of any P4 university is a wild take.

It’s bizarre and an amazing hill to die on.

 

[ZooCougar]

What's better then? LA?

I'll pick two random ones that have the same name. Columbia and Columbia. Or Madison and College Station.

Good god. If you want to go become and elite robotics engineer or your dream is to go get some elite soft skills Liberal Arts Degree then by all means go to Boston. Nobody disagrees that its a destination for elite Academics. But it's not one for elite athletics, not even remotely.

If you're an elite Volleyball player then maybe you are going to find yourself in Lincoln. If you're the best Women's or Men's Basketball player, you're probably looking at UConn and a few others. You're going somewhere where the sports are the center of gravity socially and culturally. Cal and Stanford are good academically and are P4. They might suck the revenue sports but they churn out Olympic Athletes.

In Boston, college sports except for Hockey are an afterthought and a quirky tradition. Until that changes your assertion will be false false false.

 

[NE Football]

I'll pick two random ones that have the same name. Columbia and Columbia. Or Madison and College Station.

Good god. If you want to go become and elite robotics engineer or your dream is to go get some elite soft skills Liberal Arts Degree then by all means go to Boston. Nobody disagrees that its a destination for elite Academics. But it's not one for elite athletics, not even remotely.

If you're an elite Volleyball player then maybe you are going to find yourself in Lincoln. If you're the best Women's or Men's Basketball player, you're probably looking at UConn and a few others. You're going somewhere where the sports are the center of gravity socially and culturally. Cal and Stanford are good academically and are P4. They might suck the revenue sports but they churn out Olympic Athletes.

In Boston, college sports except for Hockey are an afterthought and a quirky tradition. Until that changes your assertion will be false false false.

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

 

[JwittersPAC]

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

Yes lacrosse that sport that draws those large group of fans that they need to play the games at Gillette Stadium in front of 68,000 screaming fans. Boston is a Pro Sport town.

 

[Chin Diesel]

What's better then? LA?

That would be one place.
Taste is personal. I'd also suggest Miami, Atlanta, Nashville would be better environments.

I don't mind Boston at all. I have family who have gone to schools there and some who live there. I also just got done visiting a friend and he mentioned visiting Boston this spring and how clean and nice it is.

For a majority of P4 level athletes, Boston isn't the place to be.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

When they had the garden gnome at QB (and likely were the biggest draw they had ever been) a buddy and I drove up to see BC play Stanford (and Elway) back in 1983. We were able to get tickets at the gate and they were at maybe, maybe 90% capacity for that game.

They aren't much of a draw in Boston.

 

[ZooCougar]

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

Lacrosse?

 

[upstater]

Were you a 5 star football recruit? Boston is not a college football town.

Go back to the original post. You guys have twisted a general comment about Boston into something it wasn't meant to be. He didn't say 5 star recruits should be dying to go to Boston. He said that BC has screwed up its market which is a big market and a great one for college. This also applies to basketball as well.

 

[ZooCougar]

Go back to the original post. You guys have twisted a general comment about Boston into something it wasn't meant to be. He didn't say 5 star recruits should be dying to go to Boston. He said that BC has screwed up its market which is a big market and a great one for college. This also applies to basketball as well.

He said it was the best location for a university “certainly a P4 at least”. Let him move his own goalposts.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I'll pick two random ones that have the same name. Columbia and Columbia. Or Madison and College Station.

Good god. If you want to go become and elite robotics engineer or your dream is to go get some elite soft skills Liberal Arts Degree then by all means go to Boston. Nobody disagrees that its a destination for elite Academics. But it's not one for elite athletics, not even remotely.

If you're an elite Volleyball player then maybe you are going to find yourself in Lincoln. If you're the best Women's or Men's Basketball player, you're probably looking at UConn and a few others. You're going somewhere where the sports are the center of gravity socially and culturally. Cal and Stanford are good academically and are P4. They might suck the revenue sports but they churn out Olympic Athletes.

In Boston, college sports except for Hockey are an afterthought and a quirky tradition. Until that changes your assertion will be false false false.

There are these things called “jobs” that cause some kids go to college so they can get better ones in the future. Boston is spectacular for tech, finance, consulting and advanced manufacturing, some fields that pay pretty well where network matters to get a job.

UConn’s proximity to Boston and New York is pretty much its biggest advantage compared to other schools. I don’t consider saying that Boston is a great college town to be a controversial take at all.

 

[ZooCougar]

There are these things called “jobs” that cause some kids go to college so they can get better ones in the future. Boston is spectacular for tech, finance, consulting and advanced manufacturing, some fields that pay pretty well where network matters to get a job.

UConn’s proximity to Boston and New York is pretty much its biggest advantage compared to other schools. I don’t consider saying that Boston is a great college town to be a controversial take at all.

Nobody disagrees with that. We’re talking about it as a location for P4 sports.

 

[upstater]

He said it was the best location for a university “certainly a P4 at least”. Let him move his own goalposts.

He already discussed it and yet this stuff persists.

Is Boston a great place for college? YES
Is Boston a huge market? YES
Does BC draw interest in Boston? YES -- Back when it was good at sports. It did.

Look at basketball, for heaven's sake. It's a much better place to be than, say, St. John's.

BC has squandered it.

 

[hank970]

There are these things called “jobs” that cause some kids go to college so they can get better ones in the future. Boston is spectacular for tech, finance, consulting and advanced manufacturing, some fields that pay pretty well where network matters to get a job.

UConn’s proximity to Boston and New York is pretty much its biggest advantage compared to other schools. I don’t consider saying that Boston is a great college town to be a controversial take at all.

Because college graduates are more likely to find work in the same town where they attended school? If so, then UConn grads are screwed. What are the employment opportunities in Storrs? Going to school in an urban tech, manufacturing, or financial hub might be advantageous for co-op students in those few schools that offer work/study curricula which help kids get a foot in the door, but otherwise, not so much.

 

[cellocgg]

He said it was the best location for a university “certainly a P4 at least”. Let him move his own goalposts.

I said BC has the best location of any P4 school, because it does. Really because there isn't a P4 in NYC