Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

[Kolumbo]

Regarding Boston College, Holy Cross, Gordie Lockbaum, and Coach Rick Carter

bcu may always struggle. It is a Catholic school, 15k students, a pretty healthy endowment of almost $4 billion. I am not sure enough of its alumni base will be interested in investing so heavily in football. UConn as the State Flagship has a larger fan base, a large tax base, large alumni base.

It got me to thinking of Holy Cross in the 1980's with its Heisman Candidate Gordie Lockbaum who has been discussed in other threads. It was at that time Holy Cross chose to deemphasize football. I was invited to the final Holy Cross vs bcu football game in Worcester and I got to see Gordie Lockbaum in action. bcu may ultimately find it necessary to go the route of Holy Cross.

I did a search and found this espn article regarding Coach Carter and how he was building Holy Cross Football and how it all came to a halt. Coach Carter went from Dayton to Holy Cross and could have gone to NC State but he was locked into Holy Cross. There were several illnesses in his family and then Coach Carter took his own life in 1986.

"It was the beginning of a rift between Carter and the school. His next contract would include an escape clause, but there was a much bigger challenge looming: The impending creation of the Colonial League (later renamed the Patriot League), led by Father Brooks himself, de-emphasized football.

"Not only would Carter not be coaching at the highest level, but his own school was taking a step back from its commitment to football."

The tragic tale behind a Heisman underdog

The history of Holy Cross football has a chapter that rarely gets told.

www.espn.com

 

[buddy]

I think the ACC offices should be barraged with emails recommending jettisoning BC.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I think the ACC offices should be barraged with emails recommending jettisoning BC.

You don't think they already are?

 

[Kolumbo]

 

[ZooCougar]

Was thinking Oregon, USC, Washington and UCLA…. 😉

 

[JwittersPAC]

Was thinking Oregon, USC, Washington and UCLA…. 😉

Leave BIG 10 for ACC. I assume you are joking.

 

[UC1995]

I thnk BC;s long term problem is that younger people stopped caring there. They are the future alumni who donate (or in many cases) won't donate. The old guard still feels that connection to sports. This is a generational issue for them.

 

[JwittersPAC]

I thnk BC;s long term problem is that younger people stopped caring there. They are the future alumni who donate (or in many cases) won't donate. The old guard still feels that connection to sports. This is a generational issue for them.

Once ACC breaks apart, BC will join there rightful place in the NEC.

 

[Kolumbo]

Once ACC breaks apart, BC will join there rightful place in the NEC.

ha, if CCSU allows it

UConn should accept the ACC with an initial 20% share from the ACC. Then bcu, cuse, and pitt all take a 20% haircut giving UConn, bcu, cuse and pitt all 80% revenue share. Problem sol-ved

Heck, hit them all up for a share the way things are going down there

 

[baggerbob]

Past or future PAC schools? I don't think the Corner 4 would leave the Big 12 for an ACC in transition.

I want to see some rumblings and soon. Strike while the iron is hot. Anything from the ACC to get Yormark a little anxious.

Regarding revenue share or lack thereof. We'd have to get something and it would most likely have to be at least what we are making now in the Big East. Even if less, it would still be worth it. A seat at the table is much more valuable than no seat. Having nearby cuse, Pitt, and even little bcu at the Rent would make for huge crowds and an economic boost. Throw in the other bigger name football brands and the Rent would always be full. It would most likely help recruiting for the non-revenue sports too and that is good for business

And the wheel keeps turning. Revolutions. The park is open

If anything like adding basketball schools were to be approved by ESPN they would likely want those 4 schools to hurt the Big 12 and Fox.

 

[CTBballfan243]

UConn just went to BC’s house and put their feet up on the furniture and made themselves at home. We call Storrs, Hartford, Uncasville, NY City, and Boston home.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

UConn just went to BC’s house and put their feet up on the furniture and made themselves at home. We call Storrs, Hartford, Uncasville, NY City, and Boston home.

You forgot the state of Texas. We've claimed it as our own by conquering San Antonio, Dallas-Fort Worth & Houston twice.

 

[ArtTheFan]

Could be viable option. Drop SMU Cal Stanford gives you 26 schools (10 hoops only). If 2 schools left could backfill with Tulane/Memphis.
Plenty of rivalries, strong markets, football parity, and strong basketball especially if some schools return to their previous glory.
Assuming no P2 for us, this has a lot of appeal.

If 2 schools leave, I'd take USF and Memphis. USF is like UConn, a school with lots of potential. They are building a stadium and I'd think Big East/ACC baseball would be a powerhouse.

Football would be amazing. However, I think BC, ND and Fruit might veto the merger...

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

You forgot the state of Texas. We've claimed it as our own by conquering San Antonio, Dallas-Fort Worth & Houston twice.

World domination!!

 

[NE Football]

I think we should join the American Conference in all seriousness. We can always schedule marquee OOC games in football and basketball. It’s a doable path to the CFP

 

[JVN]

I think we should join the American Conference in all seriousness. We can always schedule marquee OOC games in football and basketball. It’s a doable path to the CFP

"We" meaning Boston College?

 

[SU1968]

I'm hoping this pushes the B12 in our direction again

You already have the conference staff on your side. You have to get 12 of the 16 presidents to elect you. Are you on good terms with your former AAC teams now in the Big 12?

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

"We" meaning Boston College?

Always has appeared to be a bcu empathizer

 

[Kolumbo]

You already have the conference staff on your side. You have to get 12 of the 16 presidents to elect you. Are you on good terms with your former AAC teams now in the Big 12?

If you are asking if they despise UConn as much as cuse and bcu despise UConn, I doubt it. Cincy might be close, but I don't think the pure spiteful envy is there.

 

[buddy]

If you are asking if they despise UConn as much as cuse and bcu despise UConn, I doubt it. Cincy might be close, but I don't think the pure spiteful envy is there.

I don't think Cinci would have an issue with UConn either. I think all the eastern schools in the Big 12 would have supported UConn. I don't think the Big 12 is a viable alternative any longer though for UConn. I would like to see UConn beating the crap out of any Big 12 or ACC team that they play in any sport. Those conferences made a mistake.

 

[KryHavok]

I don't think Cinci would have an issue with UConn either. I think all the eastern schools in the Big 12 would have supported UConn. I don't think the Big 12 is a viable alternative any longer though for UConn. I would like to see UConn beating the crap out of any Big 12 or ACC team that they play in any sport. Those conferences made a mistakeS.

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I felt I had to point out that both of those moronic conferences passed on us multiple times...a one-time pass may have been "no hard feelings", but now I wish to see them both undone by the P2 (which doesn't help us at all, but being scornful sometimes goes hand in hand with pettiness). I'll take back what I wrote if either of them ever see the error of their ways to finally bring us in, but I'm fairly confident they're too stupid to know just how stupid they are.

 

[cellocgg]

You already have the conference staff on your side. You have to get 12 of the 16 presidents to elect you. Are you on good terms with your former AAC teams now in the Big 12?

Oh boy, are you gonna lecture me about how we somehow hurt their feelings like we did the ACC?

 

[jostar1]

You already have the conference staff on your side. You have to get 12 of the 16 presidents to elect you. Are you on good terms with your former AAC teams now in the Big 12?

Who knows if the Presidents and AD's are even the same now.

 

[Kolumbo]

forget about adding anything. who knows how much bcu is sucking out of the acc. attendance was listed as 3,751 but no way. this is the same basketball conference which has duke and unc!

 

[CL82]

forget about adding anything. who knows how much bcu is sucking out of the acc. attendance was listed as 3,751 but no way. this is the same basketball conference which has duke and unc!