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Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

nelsonmuntz said:
You have to ignore the second paragraph of the post you bolded to reach that conclusion. You really are a third rate troll.
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I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.
 
hank970 said:
I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.
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You should just post “UConn sucks” at the beginning of every one of your posts to save us the time of reading your drivel. You do realize this is a UConn board, right? What are you doing here if you hate UConn so much and think UConn grads are all idiots?
 
hank970 said:
I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.
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This is such a bizarre take. Corporations of all sizes naturally recruit from schools in their region and students from any given school are more likely to find a job closer to their school than further away. Of course distance isn't the only factor but it is certainly a major factor for graduates overall.

 
The AC
Would UConn consider a football only invitation? Would the AC consider it? I'm surprised it is never mentioned.
At some point in the near future something needs to give so I'm thinking about our old friends over at the AC. I'm not supporting or condoning it, just thinking about the scenario. Of course we would prefer the ACC but I was thinking about the current condition of the AC. It was a stronger conference in 2019 top to bottom. With both Army and Navy playing football, it's still an interesting football conference and why not add another football only member or 2. A few of these programs could likely be invited to the ACC so it's not like they are bad company.

I've listed the members from 2019 and 2025 and included their CBS Sports current rankings

1. Compared to the 2019 slate, UConn is still ranked higher than only Tulsa
2. Compared to the 2025 slate, UConn is smack in the middle of the pack
3. Also listed other possible additions such as Delaware, JMU, ODU, W Kent, Air Force
4. UConn plays 3 members from the bottom half of the AC plus Air Force and is 0-1 so far

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Kolumbo said:
This is such a bizarre take. Corporations of all sizes naturally recruit from schools in their region and students from any given school are more likely to find a job closer to their school than further away. Of course distance isn't the only factor but it is certainly a major factor for graduates overall.

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I was talking to a senior executive recruiter in the last two weeks about this exact topic, and he told me geography is a strong consideration even for executive level. They call it “stickiness”, and it is a factor in extending job offers because so many employees will jump after a couple of years in a new location because they don’t know anyone. Because the turnover level for entry level is so high to begin with, he said stickiness is a major factor with young employees.

It feeds on itself, because if a local company thinks recruiting cross country for entry level is a waste of time, they will often have a distance limit of schools they will consider. Small and midsize companies can’t afford to fly out to Dallas for example to recruit for a single position in Boston, so they do not even consider looking nationwide.

In Tech, UMass became a safety school for many of the northeastern elite schools, which ironically ended up shooting UMass up the rankings in computer science. UMass has a pipeline into the Boston tech community, and because tech entry level jobs are so often with small companies, network becomes a huge factor in hiring even at the entry level. Boston is one of the Top 4 tech markets in the country, and now CS is probably UMass’ strongest program

This isn’t rocket science to understand for the non-troll community.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I was talking to a senior executive recruiter in the last two weeks about this exact topic, and he told me geography is a strong consideration even for executive level. They call it “stickiness”, and it is a factor in extending job offers because so many employees will jump after a couple of years in a new location because they don’t know anyone. Because the turnover level for entry level is so high to begin with, he said stickiness is a major factor with young employees.

It feeds on itself, because if a local company thinks recruiting cross country for entry level is a waste of time, they will often have a distance limit of schools they will consider. Small and midsize companies can’t afford to fly out to Dallas for example to recruit for a single position in Boston, so they do not even consider looking nationwide.

In Tech, UMass became a safety school for many of the northeastern elite schools, which ironically ended up shooting UMass up the rankings in computer science. UMass has a pipeline into the Boston tech community, and because tech entry level jobs are so often with small companies, network becomes a huge factor in hiring even at the entry level. Boston is one of the Top 4 tech markets in the country, and now CS is probably UMass’ strongest program

This isn’t rocket science to understand for the non-troll community.
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I will say that maybe true for lower level jobs but for executive jobs that is not true in my industry.
 
hank970 said:
I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.
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You’re not someone who is responsible for hiring people.

That is clear.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I was talking to a senior executive recruiter in the last two weeks about this exact topic, and he told me geography is a strong consideration even for executive level. They call it “stickiness”, and it is a factor in extending job offers because so many employees will jump after a couple of years in a new location because they don’t know anyone. Because the turnover level for entry level is so high to begin with, he said stickiness is a major factor with young employees.

It feeds on itself, because if a local company thinks recruiting cross country for entry level is a waste of time, they will often have a distance limit of schools they will consider. Small and midsize companies can’t afford to fly out to Dallas for example to recruit for a single position in Boston, so they do not even consider looking nationwide.

In Tech, UMass became a safety school for many of the northeastern elite schools, which ironically ended up shooting UMass up the rankings in computer science. UMass has a pipeline into the Boston tech community, and because tech entry level jobs are so often with small companies, network becomes a huge factor in hiring even at the entry level. Boston is one of the Top 4 tech markets in the country, and now CS is probably UMass’ strongest program

This isn’t rocket science to understand for the non-troll community.
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Okay that’s great. I believe everything you are saying. But how does that attract Power Conference Athletes in revenue generating sports?

It doesn’t.
 
Kolumbo said:
The AC
Would UConn consider a football only invitation? Would the AC consider it? I'm surprised it is never mentioned.
At some point in the near future something needs to give so I'm thinking about our old friends over at the AC. I'm not supporting or condoning it, just thinking about the scenario. Of course we would prefer the ACC but I was thinking about the current condition of the AC. It was a stronger conference in 2019 top to bottom. With both Army and Navy playing football, it's still an interesting football conference and why not add another football only member or 2. A few of these programs could likely be invited to the ACC so it's not like they are bad company.

I've listed the members from 2019 and 2025 and included their CBS Sports current rankings

1. Compared to the 2019 slate, UConn is still ranked higher than only Tulsa
2. Compared to the 2025 slate, UConn is smack in the middle of the pack
3. Also listed other possible additions such as Delaware, JMU, ODU, W Kent, Air Force
4. UConn plays 3 members from the bottom half of the AC plus Air Force and is 0-1 so far

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The AC might not be our first choice, but I believe for UConn Football, a football-only agreement is actually a win. Again football only.

The team gets a guaranteed schedule, a path to a conference title, and automatic bowl tie-ins. The travel is also manageable. It’s a decent solution if it's strictly football. Our basketball programs stay exactly where they are. We can offer the AC a very bare-bones alliance for a few non-conference basketball games just to smooth out the football agreement. Ensure that any exit fees are very mangeable and I would support this. Throw us a bone also, 2 guaranteed road games every year somewhat close to home (Army, Temple, Navy, etc.). I love going to the academies for games. I’d be happy with a Florida game every year also.

BTW I doubt the AC would do this.
 
UConn asked for such an arrangement when they left and were denied. I suspect UConn would still take it now (although it’s less desirable than it was then) but there’s little incentive for the American to take it, they don’t need anyone for scheduling and UConn doesn’t change their tv deal; it’s even less likely if UConn were to try to make demands on their football arrangement.
 
ScottVib said:
UConn asked for such an arrangement when they left and were denied. I suspect UConn would still take it now (although it’s less desirable than it was then) but there’s little incentive for the American to take it, they don’t need anyone for scheduling and UConn doesn’t change their tv deal; it’s even less likely if UConn were to try to make demands on their football arrangement.
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Even if it made sense they might not do it out of pride.
 
ScottVib said:
UConn asked for such an arrangement when they left and were denied. I suspect UConn would still take it now (although it’s less desirable than it was then) but there’s little incentive for the American to take it, they don’t need anyone for scheduling and UConn doesn’t change their tv deal; it’s even less likely if UConn were to try to make demands on their football arrangement.
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A LOT changes in 6 years, such as losing Cincy, Houston and UCF to the Big 12, gaining Army football, and UConn Football back to going bowling. Temple, Army, Navy, ECU, USF, I'm sure they would be in favor of having another Eastern football partner. And getting a few basketball games would be a bonus for the AC. The new look PAC 12 could surpass the AC in the next year or two. It seems like an opportunity the AC should explore if they can work out the finances. The AC Baseball Conference also has some appeal.
 
Kolumbo said:
A LOT changes in 6 years, such as losing Cincy, Houston and UCF to the Big 12, gaining Army football, and UConn Football back to going bowling. Temple, Army, Navy, ECU, USF, I'm sure they would be in favor of having another Eastern football partner. And getting a few basketball games would be a bonus for the AC. The new look PAC 12 could surpass the AC in the next year or two. It seems like an opportunity the AC should explore if they can work out the finances. The AC Baseball Conference also has some appeal.
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Unless they lose members it's not going to happen. And they will probably look at JMU for all sports.
 
huskymedic said:
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There are a lot of comments following this tweet regarding espn, acc network, how ratings are measured. Big picture, do FSU and Clemson lose out somehow or do they still have more viewership than everyone else

"Why would the ACC do this?​

The simple explanation is that it's a low-budget conference with a low-budget mentality. The big wigs are appalled that FSU and Clemson actually want to compete at the highest level in college football and were willing to take them to court to get it done. If this is the ACC's version of payback, good for them. They have shuttered one of the biggest draws of the season to college sports' version of public access television."

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FSU-Clemson TV network assignment shows why the Seminoles have to leave the ACC

The ACC has always shown it's more than happy to cut its nose off to spite its face and Saturday's TV assignment for FSU-Clemson is the latest example of that.
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