Welp, ACC stays together with a new agreement (LINK)

[JwittersPAC]

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

Yes lacrosse that sport that draws those large group of fans that they need to play the games at Gillette Stadium in front of 68,000 screaming fans. Boston is a Pro Sport town.

 

[Chin Diesel]

What's better then? LA?

That would be one place.
Taste is personal. I'd also suggest Miami, Atlanta, Nashville would be better environments.

I don't mind Boston at all. I have family who have gone to schools there and some who live there. I also just got done visiting a friend and he mentioned visiting Boston this spring and how clean and nice it is.

For a majority of P4 level athletes, Boston isn't the place to be.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

When they had the garden gnome at QB (and likely were the biggest draw they had ever been) a buddy and I drove up to see BC play Stanford (and Elway) back in 1983. We were able to get tickets at the gate and they were at maybe, maybe 90% capacity for that game.

They aren't much of a draw in Boston.

 

[ZooCougar]

Lacrosse is big in Boston. I think there are plenty of college football fans in Boston, they just have not had a consistent winning team to follow. There were close to 40k at our game with BC and they have sold out other games. If they had a top 20 program they could sell out Gillette

Lacrosse?

 

[upstater]

Were you a 5 star football recruit? Boston is not a college football town.

Go back to the original post. You guys have twisted a general comment about Boston into something it wasn't meant to be. He didn't say 5 star recruits should be dying to go to Boston. He said that BC has screwed up its market which is a big market and a great one for college. This also applies to basketball as well.

 

[ZooCougar]

Go back to the original post. You guys have twisted a general comment about Boston into something it wasn't meant to be. He didn't say 5 star recruits should be dying to go to Boston. He said that BC has screwed up its market which is a big market and a great one for college. This also applies to basketball as well.

He said it was the best location for a university “certainly a P4 at least”. Let him move his own goalposts.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I'll pick two random ones that have the same name. Columbia and Columbia. Or Madison and College Station.

Good god. If you want to go become and elite robotics engineer or your dream is to go get some elite soft skills Liberal Arts Degree then by all means go to Boston. Nobody disagrees that its a destination for elite Academics. But it's not one for elite athletics, not even remotely.

If you're an elite Volleyball player then maybe you are going to find yourself in Lincoln. If you're the best Women's or Men's Basketball player, you're probably looking at UConn and a few others. You're going somewhere where the sports are the center of gravity socially and culturally. Cal and Stanford are good academically and are P4. They might suck the revenue sports but they churn out Olympic Athletes.

In Boston, college sports except for Hockey are an afterthought and a quirky tradition. Until that changes your assertion will be false false false.

There are these things called “jobs” that cause some kids go to college so they can get better ones in the future. Boston is spectacular for tech, finance, consulting and advanced manufacturing, some fields that pay pretty well where network matters to get a job.

UConn’s proximity to Boston and New York is pretty much its biggest advantage compared to other schools. I don’t consider saying that Boston is a great college town to be a controversial take at all.

 

[ZooCougar]

There are these things called “jobs” that cause some kids go to college so they can get better ones in the future. Boston is spectacular for tech, finance, consulting and advanced manufacturing, some fields that pay pretty well where network matters to get a job.

UConn’s proximity to Boston and New York is pretty much its biggest advantage compared to other schools. I don’t consider saying that Boston is a great college town to be a controversial take at all.

Nobody disagrees with that. We’re talking about it as a location for P4 sports.

 

[upstater]

He said it was the best location for a university “certainly a P4 at least”. Let him move his own goalposts.

He already discussed it and yet this stuff persists.

Is Boston a great place for college? YES
Is Boston a huge market? YES
Does BC draw interest in Boston? YES -- Back when it was good at sports. It did.

Look at basketball, for heaven's sake. It's a much better place to be than, say, St. John's.

BC has squandered it.

 

[hank970]

There are these things called “jobs” that cause some kids go to college so they can get better ones in the future. Boston is spectacular for tech, finance, consulting and advanced manufacturing, some fields that pay pretty well where network matters to get a job.

UConn’s proximity to Boston and New York is pretty much its biggest advantage compared to other schools. I don’t consider saying that Boston is a great college town to be a controversial take at all.

Because college graduates are more likely to find work in the same town where they attended school? If so, then UConn grads are screwed. What are the employment opportunities in Storrs? Going to school in an urban tech, manufacturing, or financial hub might be advantageous for co-op students in those few schools that offer work/study curricula which help kids get a foot in the door, but otherwise, not so much.

 

[cellocgg]

He said it was the best location for a university “certainly a P4 at least”. Let him move his own goalposts.

I said BC has the best location of any P4 school, because it does. Really because there isn't a P4 in NYC

 

[ZooCougar]

I said BC has the best location of any P4 school, because it does. Really because there isn't a P4 in NYC

You’re a science experiment.

 

[CL82]

It was pretty obvious to me it wasn't going to break apart until they started approaching the 2036 finish.

Sources: FSU, Clemson expected to reach settlement with ACC

FSU and Clemson will vote Tuesday on an agreement that would ultimately result in the settlement of lawsuits between the schools and the ACC, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

Some schools will see a $7M reduction in payout. I wonder which school that will be?

 

[Hoophound]

Boston is not a college sports town. It’s an academic town with a hockey problem.

If you want to argue which city might have the most valuable opinion on global warming, I’d choose Boston. If you want to talk about which town might be the best for P4 sports, I’d argue Tuscaloosa or Columbus.

There is just no making sense of college sports based on the usual assumptions.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Because college graduates are more likely to find work in the same town where they attended school? If so, then UConn grads are screwed. What are the employment opportunities in Storrs? Going to school in an urban tech, manufacturing, or financial hub might be advantageous for co-op students in those few schools that offer work/study curricula which help kids get a foot in the door, but otherwise, not so much.

You have to ignore the second paragraph of the post you bolded to reach that conclusion. You really are a third rate troll.

 

[hank970]

You have to ignore the second paragraph of the post you bolded to reach that conclusion. You really are a third rate troll.

I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.

You should just post “UConn sucks” at the beginning of every one of your posts to save us the time of reading your drivel. You do realize this is a UConn board, right? What are you doing here if you hate UConn so much and think UConn grads are all idiots?

 

[Kolumbo]

I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.

This is such a bizarre take. Corporations of all sizes naturally recruit from schools in their region and students from any given school are more likely to find a job closer to their school than further away. Of course distance isn't the only factor but it is certainly a major factor for graduates overall.

Where Graduates Move After College

Which cities have the most drawing power among college grads? Small metros lose out to big ones in gaining graduates, but some buck the trend. Our database of 445 schools shows where the alumni of each one wind up.

www.wsj.com

 

[Kolumbo]

The AC
Would UConn consider a football only invitation? Would the AC consider it? I'm surprised it is never mentioned.
At some point in the near future something needs to give so I'm thinking about our old friends over at the AC. I'm not supporting or condoning it, just thinking about the scenario. Of course we would prefer the ACC but I was thinking about the current condition of the AC. It was a stronger conference in 2019 top to bottom. With both Army and Navy playing football, it's still an interesting football conference and why not add another football only member or 2. A few of these programs could likely be invited to the ACC so it's not like they are bad company.

I've listed the members from 2019 and 2025 and included their CBS Sports current rankings

1. Compared to the 2019 slate, UConn is still ranked higher than only Tulsa
2. Compared to the 2025 slate, UConn is smack in the middle of the pack
3. Also listed other possible additions such as Delaware, JMU, ODU, W Kent, Air Force
4. UConn plays 3 members from the bottom half of the AC plus Air Force and is 0-1 so far

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This is such a bizarre take. Corporations of all sizes naturally recruit from schools in their region and students from any given school are more likely to find a job closer to their school than further away. Of course distance isn't the only factor but it is certainly a major factor for graduates overall.

Where Graduates Move After College

Which cities have the most drawing power among college grads? Small metros lose out to big ones in gaining graduates, but some buck the trend. Our database of 445 schools shows where the alumni of each one wind up.

www.wsj.com

I was talking to a senior executive recruiter in the last two weeks about this exact topic, and he told me geography is a strong consideration even for executive level. They call it “stickiness”, and it is a factor in extending job offers because so many employees will jump after a couple of years in a new location because they don’t know anyone. Because the turnover level for entry level is so high to begin with, he said stickiness is a major factor with young employees.

It feeds on itself, because if a local company thinks recruiting cross country for entry level is a waste of time, they will often have a distance limit of schools they will consider. Small and midsize companies can’t afford to fly out to Dallas for example to recruit for a single position in Boston, so they do not even consider looking nationwide.

In Tech, UMass became a safety school for many of the northeastern elite schools, which ironically ended up shooting UMass up the rankings in computer science. UMass has a pipeline into the Boston tech community, and because tech entry level jobs are so often with small companies, network becomes a huge factor in hiring even at the entry level. Boston is one of the Top 4 tech markets in the country, and now CS is probably UMass’ strongest program

This isn’t rocket science to understand for the non-troll community.

 

[JwittersPAC]

I was talking to a senior executive recruiter in the last two weeks about this exact topic, and he told me geography is a strong consideration even for executive level. They call it “stickiness”, and it is a factor in extending job offers because so many employees will jump after a couple of years in a new location because they don’t know anyone. Because the turnover level for entry level is so high to begin with, he said stickiness is a major factor with young employees.

It feeds on itself, because if a local company thinks recruiting cross country for entry level is a waste of time, they will often have a distance limit of schools they will consider. Small and midsize companies can’t afford to fly out to Dallas for example to recruit for a single position in Boston, so they do not even consider looking nationwide.

In Tech, UMass became a safety school for many of the northeastern elite schools, which ironically ended up shooting UMass up the rankings in computer science. UMass has a pipeline into the Boston tech community, and because tech entry level jobs are so often with small companies, network becomes a huge factor in hiring even at the entry level. Boston is one of the Top 4 tech markets in the country, and now CS is probably UMass’ strongest program

This isn’t rocket science to understand for the non-troll community.

I will say that maybe true for lower level jobs but for executive jobs that is not true in my industry.

 

[Fishy]

I ignored the second paragraph because I know that UConn's proximity to New York and Boston doesn't mean diddly-squat. Storrs is in rural Connecticut, and UConn doesn't hold any more sway with employers in Boston and NYC than any other comparable or better school, many of which, including some genuine heavy hitters, are actually located in those major markets. National universities attract students from every state and numerous foreign countries, and their grads disperse to all manner of places in search of work after earning their degrees. Similarly, important employers cast a wide net when looking for the best and brightest talent. Recruiters don't care if prospects went to school up the street, on the opposite end of the country, or even from what you dismissively refer to as flyover country. Further, many prestigious firms aren't located in the Northeast's urban miasma, and that's part of their appeal to prospective employees.. An insufferable fanboy, your outlook is far too parochial.

You’re not someone who is responsible for hiring people.

That is clear.

 

[ZooCougar]

I was talking to a senior executive recruiter in the last two weeks about this exact topic, and he told me geography is a strong consideration even for executive level. They call it “stickiness”, and it is a factor in extending job offers because so many employees will jump after a couple of years in a new location because they don’t know anyone. Because the turnover level for entry level is so high to begin with, he said stickiness is a major factor with young employees.

It feeds on itself, because if a local company thinks recruiting cross country for entry level is a waste of time, they will often have a distance limit of schools they will consider. Small and midsize companies can’t afford to fly out to Dallas for example to recruit for a single position in Boston, so they do not even consider looking nationwide.

In Tech, UMass became a safety school for many of the northeastern elite schools, which ironically ended up shooting UMass up the rankings in computer science. UMass has a pipeline into the Boston tech community, and because tech entry level jobs are so often with small companies, network becomes a huge factor in hiring even at the entry level. Boston is one of the Top 4 tech markets in the country, and now CS is probably UMass’ strongest program

This isn’t rocket science to understand for the non-troll community.

Okay that’s great. I believe everything you are saying. But how does that attract Power Conference Athletes in revenue generating sports?

It doesn’t.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Stinger92860]

The AC
Would UConn consider a football only invitation? Would the AC consider it? I'm surprised it is never mentioned.
At some point in the near future something needs to give so I'm thinking about our old friends over at the AC. I'm not supporting or condoning it, just thinking about the scenario. Of course we would prefer the ACC but I was thinking about the current condition of the AC. It was a stronger conference in 2019 top to bottom. With both Army and Navy playing football, it's still an interesting football conference and why not add another football only member or 2. A few of these programs could likely be invited to the ACC so it's not like they are bad company.

I've listed the members from 2019 and 2025 and included their CBS Sports current rankings

1. Compared to the 2019 slate, UConn is still ranked higher than only Tulsa
2. Compared to the 2025 slate, UConn is smack in the middle of the pack
3. Also listed other possible additions such as Delaware, JMU, ODU, W Kent, Air Force
4. UConn plays 3 members from the bottom half of the AC plus Air Force and is 0-1 so far

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The AC might not be our first choice, but I believe for UConn Football, a football-only agreement is actually a win. Again football only.

The team gets a guaranteed schedule, a path to a conference title, and automatic bowl tie-ins. The travel is also manageable. It’s a decent solution if it's strictly football. Our basketball programs stay exactly where they are. We can offer the AC a very bare-bones alliance for a few non-conference basketball games just to smooth out the football agreement. Ensure that any exit fees are very mangeable and I would support this. Throw us a bone also, 2 guaranteed road games every year somewhat close to home (Army, Temple, Navy, etc.). I love going to the academies for games. I’d be happy with a Florida game every year also.

BTW I doubt the AC would do this.

 

[ScottVib]

UConn asked for such an arrangement when they left and were denied. I suspect UConn would still take it now (although it’s less desirable than it was then) but there’s little incentive for the American to take it, they don’t need anyone for scheduling and UConn doesn’t change their tv deal; it’s even less likely if UConn were to try to make demands on their football arrangement.

 

[ZooCougar]

UConn asked for such an arrangement when they left and were denied. I suspect UConn would still take it now (although it’s less desirable than it was then) but there’s little incentive for the American to take it, they don’t need anyone for scheduling and UConn doesn’t change their tv deal; it’s even less likely if UConn were to try to make demands on their football arrangement.

Even if it made sense they might not do it out of pride.

 

[Kolumbo]

UConn asked for such an arrangement when they left and were denied. I suspect UConn would still take it now (although it’s less desirable than it was then) but there’s little incentive for the American to take it, they don’t need anyone for scheduling and UConn doesn’t change their tv deal; it’s even less likely if UConn were to try to make demands on their football arrangement.

A LOT changes in 6 years, such as losing Cincy, Houston and UCF to the Big 12, gaining Army football, and UConn Football back to going bowling. Temple, Army, Navy, ECU, USF, I'm sure they would be in favor of having another Eastern football partner. And getting a few basketball games would be a bonus for the AC. The new look PAC 12 could surpass the AC in the next year or two. It seems like an opportunity the AC should explore if they can work out the finances. The AC Baseball Conference also has some appeal.

 

[psilotic]

is what is called "karma" and no better reason for "Schadenfreude" ... obv be careful what you wish for but would welcome a crack at the 'Noles in the Gasparilla as Schlabach predicts

 

[ZooCougar]

A LOT changes in 6 years, such as losing Cincy, Houston and UCF to the Big 12, gaining Army football, and UConn Football back to going bowling. Temple, Army, Navy, ECU, USF, I'm sure they would be in favor of having another Eastern football partner. And getting a few basketball games would be a bonus for the AC. The new look PAC 12 could surpass the AC in the next year or two. It seems like an opportunity the AC should explore if they can work out the finances. The AC Baseball Conference also has some appeal.

Unless they lose members it's not going to happen. And they will probably look at JMU for all sports.