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Iowa up 25+ late in the 4th. Clark still on the floor and just got her double double (35/10). Hopefully she will go to the bench before getting another TO, adding to the 9 she has.
 
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Iowa up 25+ late in the 4th. Clark still on the floor and just got her double double (35/10). Hopefully she will go to the bench before getting another TO, adding to the 9 she has.
Clark was subbed out at the 4th quarter media timeout, with more than 4 minutes remaining. Not sure I would call that “late” in the 4th.
 
If a tree falls in LA does anybody hear it. No TV for UCLA vs SoCal Oops! There’s the PACN! Still though . . .

Hope they can get some celebs to
Stir up some attendance
Just read that the game has been declared a sell out. So...I guess some people will actually be there watching it.
 
Colorado pulled away late to beat Utah. Sherrod scored 34, I'm thinking that's a career high for her. Pili w/ 27 for the Utes.
 
Clark was subbed out at the 4th quarter media timeout, with more than 4 minutes remaining. Not sure I would call that “late” in the 4th.
Yup and I apologize for the misinformation. I was basing my information on the ESPN Gamecast "play by play". They displayed Clark as being on the court even though she had already been taken out. I became aware when players not designated as on the court started showing up on the play by play. But she was soooooo close to a triple double. :)
 
Iowa up 25+ late in the 4th. Clark still on the floor and just got her double double (35/10). Hopefully she will go to the bench before getting another TO, adding to the 9 she has.
Iowa was just on another level for Minnesota today. Proud of Minnesota in this loss. They managed to force Iowa into 18-19 turnovers. Mara is automatic at the line. Amaya showed up and played well. Something to build on.
 
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I was under the impression that @HuskyNan Elon squad was the 2nd worst WBB team in the entire state of NC (Division I). Yet, they ventured 30 minutes over to High Point, threw out the record book, and took down my Panthers 74-66

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After picking back up the record book, Elon takes the all-time series lead over their CSA rival 40-39.
 
Mich upsets rival 17 OhioSt. 69-60

10 Baylor leading 5 Texas by 6 at half, longhorns surely still reeling from Harmons injury.

4 Iowa up BiG on Minn
Minnesota/Iowa was billed as a real battle as Minny had been only giving up 54 pts/game. Iowa hit 55 with 8:33 left in the 3rd qtr; were up over 30 before coasting in. Clark has been getting sloppy in trying to get teammates involved...I will say a number of her TO's would have been assists if the passes had been thrown to Czinano. I think she's okay with the TO's if it helps our posts learn how to convert.
 
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I never really get the buzz around Ohio State we hear every year.
They are good but I don’t think their D is as suffocating as last year and Mikesell is a huge loss offensively. They are probably a 2nd round/Sweet 16 team, could throw a wrench into whoever’s region they are in if they are clicking.
 
Purdue over Wisconsin 89-50. Anybody call that absolute beatdown? I think the Big 10 is gonna be wacky this season.
 
Minnesota/Iowa was billed as a real battle as Minny had been only giving up 54 pts/game. Iowa hit 55 with 8:33 left in the 3rd qtr; were up over 30 before coasting in. Clark has been getting sloppy in trying to get teammates involved...I will say a number of her TO's would have been assists if the passes had been thrown to Czinano. I think she's okay with the TO's if it helps our posts learn how to convert.

With Michigan State and Ohio State coming up, limiting those turnovers will be important. Both teams like to press and have been making the most of scoring on the turnovers they generate.
 
UCLA beats UCLA 70-63 at UCLA. Not a pretty game but interesting to watch. They really got after each other, and I think that's what made it seem so ragged at times. USC did a terrific job limiting Betts most of the night. The Bruin guards, Jones and Rice, were very good as was JuJu Watkins. Mackenzie Forbes, the Harvard transfer, also did some nice work for the Trojans.

First time in 40 years they've played each other while both are ranked in the Top 10.
 
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Watkins left the game with a leg injury at ending of UCLA/USC……
It was a cramp. She was reaching down and pulling her toes up after she went down. She returned to the huddle during the final timeout with 5 seconds left and was mad they didn't put her back in the game. She played really hard, as did everyone else on the two teams.
 
It was certainly competitive and high energy. USC almost never looked like they were running a coherent offense. It was almost all individual playmaking off the dribble, with a mixture of good and bad decisions. It’s rare when a Cori Close team looks more organized than the opponent.

UCLA got a great game from Jones, whose hot shooting was the X factor in this one; otherwise the stars had a hard time hitting shots.

Both teams host the Oregon schools next weekend and then they have the rematch at the Galen Center in two weeks.
 
After the USC-UCLA game I'm not sure if I should revise my initial estimation of USC upwards or that of UCLA downwards. However that's decided, Watkins has certainly demonstrated that she can play against top competition.
 
It was a cramp. She was reaching down and pulling her toes up after she went down. She returned to the huddle during the final timeout with 5 seconds left and was mad they didn't put her back in the game. She played really hard, as did everyone else on the two teams.
I think Juju played the whole game. I missed the last few minutes of the game. I really enjoy these "ugly" type games. You find out so much about players and the mental and physical side of a player. Juju is going to be nice. Both teams played hard and gave it 120%.
 
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I think Juju played the whole game. I missed the last few minutes of the game. I really enjoy these "ugly" type games. You find out so much about players and the mental and physical side of a player. Juju is going to be nice. Both teams played hard and gave it 120%.
She played 38 minutes overall. Pretty sure it was the whole game except for the end when she left with the apparent cramp.
 
Osborne's defense on Watkins was fantastic. Box score says Watkins only had 3 turnovers--that's generous. I think Watkins had at least 5 turnovers. Watkins was 7-24. The difference in the game as I saw it was Osborne's defense on Watkins, and Gottlieb's lousy offense that essentially was 1 vs 5 featuring Watkins trying to do it all herself. McKenzie Forbes for USC was brilliant and Gottlieb needs to feature Forbes as much as Watkins. I think Close was the better coach in this game.
 
There were four teams in the top 10 that I've had trouble deciding if they were ranked too high and I think this weekend helped me get a better feel for most of them. Baylor, Colorado, NC State, and USC all felt like they somewhat benefitted from external circumstances that propelled them into the top 10 (easy schedules, teams ahead in the rankings losing, player injuries, beating over-ranked teams in preseason polls, etc.).

NC State's wins are looking better and better with Colorado beating Utah and UConn starting to rebound from early season struggles, so I'm starting to believe they're a title contender.

Colorado's win over Utah also tells me that their win against LSU wasn't a fluke. I think the Utah win definitely solidified their top 10 status in my mind.

USC looks like a much improved team but they need more firepower to beat the best of the PAC12. Juju is too young to carry the team on her shoulders for 40 minutes. I think she needs an off-season of strength training to prepare her for the role she has been thrust into. I think USC looks like a top 25 team, but on the lower end in the 16-25 range. If I was a betting man I would wager that they will finish fourth or fifth in the PAC12. Additionally, Ohio State is looking overrated, so the quality of that win is diminishing in retrospect.

Baylor does look good but I wish Texas had a healthy Harmon because without Harmon it's hard to decide how good of a win they just earned. The Big 12 also looks like they're having a down year, so it's going to be hard gauging those teams against the rest of the country. They're the only remaining team in the top 10 that I don't have a good feel for.

Thoughts?
 
UCLA beats UCLA 70-63 at UCLA. Not a pretty game but interesting to watch. They really got after each other, and I think that's what made it seem so ragged at times. USC did a terrific job limiting Betts most of the night. The Bruin guards, Jones and Rice, were very good as was JuJu Watkins. Mackenzie Forbes, the Harvard transfer, also did some nice work for the Trojans.

First time in 40 years they've played each other while both are ranked in the Top 10.
13,859 attendance. How long has it been since a PAC CONFERENCE game had attendance that topped that?

Ever?
 
There were four teams in the top 10 that I've had trouble deciding if they were ranked too high and I think this weekend helped me get a better feel for most of them. Baylor, Colorado, NC State, and USC all felt like they somewhat benefitted from external circumstances that propelled them into the top 10 (easy schedules, teams ahead in the rankings losing, player injuries, beating over-ranked teams in preseason polls, etc.).

NC State's wins are looking better and better with Colorado beating Utah and UConn starting to rebound from early season struggles, so I'm starting to believe they're a title contender.

Colorado's win over Utah also tells me that their win against LSU wasn't a fluke. I think the Utah win definitely solidified their top 10 status in my mind.

USC looks like a much improved team but they need more firepower to beat the best of the PAC12. Juju is too young to carry the team on her shoulders for 40 minutes. I think she needs an off-season of strength training to prepare her for the role she has been thrust into. I think USC looks like a top 25 team, but on the lower end in the 16-25 range. If I was a betting man I would wager that they will finish fourth or fifth in the PAC12. Additionally, Ohio State is looking overrated, so the quality of that win is diminishing in retrospect.

Baylor does look good but I wish Texas had a healthy Harmon because without Harmon it's hard to decide how good of a win they just earned. The Big 12 also looks like they're having a down year, so it's going to be hard gauging those teams against the rest of the country. They're the only remaining team in the top 10 that I don't have a good feel for.

Thoughts?
Great post. I agree on almost all of this and was having similar thoughts on all fronts. USCw looks like a team too dependent on just 1-2 players without scoring depth behind them, they will drop more games. OSU was expecting much from McMahon and she has been a no show so far, they look lesser than expected, Iowa should win the B12 easily imo. Unfortunately for Utah injuries have surfaced and they are not the same team as last season. The PAC12 is so competitive this season they along with USCw will face more losses. Colo is intriguing but I doubt they get through conference play without 3-4 losses, which is still a good season but is it top 10 worthy by seasons end?

As for the B12, with Harmon I think Texas was a contender. They may still win the B12, Baylor has several deficiencies that have not bitten them yet but I don’t see a top ten team when I watch them, they may end up top ten if they run through the B12 easily but they are not big enough or deep enough imo to finish the season as strong as they have started, certainly not to make a run in the tourney versus anyone with skilled size.

I think NCSU comes back down to earth to an extent as the season progresses. They have been impressive so far, but this is the one team in the top 4-10 that looks ripe for a little pullback in expectations. Maybe they are just a more than the sum of the parts type team but I could see them easily fall off a bit.

Uconn is not dead yet. They may run their conference and if so an upset win at SC in Feb puts them back in the conversation, though I don’t see them as a championship caliber team given their lack of depth also now due to injuries.

This looks like a race between UCLA, Iowa, SC and LSU to cut the nets. Just my early opinion, and it’s all subject to change. I don’t have any concerns about UCLA, as far as glaring weaknesses. Iowa still relies heavily on Clark at 38% usage rate, tops in nation, but if one player deserves that kind of usage it’s her. SC has one huge weakness, they are near the bottom of teams in FT% and we all know how that can bite a team in close games, esp in the tourney.

Geno and Uconn will exploit that to make their game interesting if it is close in the fourth Come February, he did it last season to pull close at the end. LSU‘s schedule so far leaves me knowing less about them than all other teams, and I do think the loss of their center was a huge blow, but I can also see that team, with their parts, being really good even against great teams. Like last season, you have to keep them in the equation, super talent on that squad. They only get SC once this season, and at home, that’s big. There is room for both SC and LSU to get 1 seeds if the ACC champ falls out of the top 6 or so imo. apologize for the long writeup, thoughts were rambling this morning.
 
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