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Arkansas is another one like Arizona state. Need to make a coaching change. Sticking with it would be proof that the athletic director doesn’t care about women’s basketball.
Not so much.

Arkansas represents the type of expectation and support that elite programs share. While there is clearly a decline in Fayetteville there has been success during Neighbors time there.

In Tempe during the Adair disaster there's been nothing but unrelenting, soul crushing failure

As an ASU fan I take Neighbors every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I would happily pay 10 times whatever buyout he has at Arkansas pay 10 times the cost to have Coach Adair go back to Delaware and personally cut Mike Neighbor's yard during the summer.

Similarities

1. Hiring schools were consistently successful with 20 win seasons and participation at the NCAA prior to the arrival of Adair/Neighbors.

2. Decline is with current coach

3. Similar age and experience in coaching.

Differences

1. Made sense at the time.

Coaching experience and expectations. The Neighbors hire made sense with a coach with experience at P4 level returning home. The Adair higher made no sense. A coach with no P4 experience deeply rooted in the Mid-Atlantic region with no connection to the Pac-12 or the West Coast and no experience recruiting athletes required in a P4 conference nor a demonstrated ability to manage a big time program.

2. Magnitude of the decline

There's just no similarity here as I indicate below. No argument that Neighbors has been a disappointment and the performance of the team reflects that. There is a however a difference between a decline and a precipitous, consistent, unrelenting level of horribleness. Neighbors could very well have another job at the P4 level. Adair will never ever ever coach again at the elite level and women's college basketball.

Adair tenure
Year Overall. Conference
2022 8-20. 1-17
2023 11-20. 3-15
2024. 5-6



Adair has not taken the Sun Devils to post-season action and never ever will even if the AD and real estate developer decide to leave her in this job the next 20 years she will never go to postseason with a P4 School.


Neighbors at Arkansas
Year Overall Conference
2017 18-13. 3-13
2018. 22-15. 6-10
2019 24-8. 10-6
2020 19-9. 9-6
2021. 18-13 7-9
2023 24 -13. 7-9
2023 18-15. 6-10
2024 6-8



Two appearances NCAA, two appearances WNIT, 1 appearance WBIT

3.Timing of firing.

I wasn't sure whether to put this as a similarity or not as I would be surprised if Neighbors is still coaching at Arkansas in 3 years. I'm not sure how long ihs contract is. While Arizona State has demonstrated a malignant neglect of the women's basketball program I don't think even that incompetence would tolerate Adair continuing another 20 loss year. So fingers crossed that she's gone from Tempe by the end of March 2025. I'm suspecting Neighbors may well still be employed as of that day at Arkansas.
 
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Arkansas represents the type of expectation and support that elite programs share. ...

1. Hiring schools were consistently successful with 20 win seasons and participation at the NCAA prior to the arrival of Adair/Neighbors.
Most of your analysis is spot on, but the Arkansas program cannot be described as having been "consistently successful with 20 win seasons" prior to Neighbors.

The Jimmy Dykes hire in 2014 made even less sense than hiring Adair. He did get them (barely) into the NCAA tournament in his first year, but in none of his 3 seasons did they reach 20 wins.

Before that, Tim Collen had only modest success, getting to 2 NCAA tournaments in a 7-year tenure. The Susie Gardner tenure before that was just bad. Arkansas did have some decent teams under Gary Blair in the late 90s (including a flukish run to the Final Four in 1998), but that's a pretty distant memory.

Neighbors seemed to have Arkansas turned around, but the success went away as quickly as it arrived. Their best team was in 2021, when they were an NCAA #4 seed, but lost in the first round to Wright State. They were only a 10 seed in 2022 and went to the WNIT in 2023. Arkansas under Neighbors has hit 20 wins only 3 teams in Neighbor's tenure.
 
I guess the Tennessee press was better than the Texas press against Richmond.
 
North Carolina Central actually won a game! And not against someone like Chicago St. either. 76-71 victory over Winthrop, who was 6-5 entering the game. Oof that is a terrible loss for the Eagles.
 


Based on this picture. I would tend to speculate that Betts is out again

Maybe she has an aversion to stepping foot on the same court as her prior team - she also mysteriously was out the week of the UCLA game @Stanford last season, and she didn't even travel with the team.
 
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Was it, though?

Texas forced Richmond into 24 turnovers. Tennessee forced them into 17.
Well Tennessee pur up 92 points. Texas had 65 points.
 
Well Tennessee pur up 92 points. Texas had 65 points.
That's interesting, but you said "press". Did you mean to say "points"? Yes, so many points, so impressive.

Texas at least deserves credit for playing a true road game at a team better than, well, Memphis.
 
Michigan St's undefeated season about to end. Outscored 31-11 in Q3 by Alabama.
 
That's interesting, but you said "press". Did you mean to say "points"? Yes, so many points, so impressive.

Texas at least deserves credit for playing a true road game at a team better than, well, Memphis.
Well the press can also have different effects. Texas is a good team no doubt. It will be a interesting game when they play in SEC play.
 
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Belmont with another close but no cigar -- 84-78 L to Kentucky. Bruins are 5-6! But the Ls are all to P4 teams.
 
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Anyone else have Creighton taking out UCLA with a barrage of 3s?
It's nice to imagine this happening, but I'm not betting on it.
 
If you didnt bet the under on Stan/OhioSt, I'm sorry.

Buckeyes up 11-4 near the end of Q1.
I had nightmares of a 20-4 1Q, so I'm relatively pleased it's only 16-6. Expectations... The only thing this season I can control... :confused:
 
Iowa was up by 16 at the half against Northern Iowa, but UNI has come charging back in the second half. Nearly tied up w/ about 5 minutes left.
 
I thought Stanford almost never took transfers?

I'm just now learning they got Stevenson (Big Ten FOY per media) and Heal (all-WCC at Santa Clara) from the portal.
 
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Iowa was up by 16 at the half against Northern Iowa, but UNI has come charging back in the second half. Nearly tied up w/ about 5 minutes left.
Was a great game to watch. I love wcbb. Maya McDermott was really incredible. Like what in the Dyaisha Faire was I watching. I don't get how these players aren't pros, just so much talent. Imagine if her and Lucy were playing together as Hawkeyes for their final year. Anyways another 5th year player I'm happy to see play for another year but I won't get into all of that. The game was kind of on par for both teams. Iowa has been good, but not great. As you mentioned had a big lead, but showed some of their weaknesses and let Northern Iowa back into it. Even Lucy, she has been very good all season but not great, including in this game. Conversely, Northern Iowa has been in a ton of these games but lost at the end.
 
Was a great game to watch. I love wcbb. Maya McDermott was really incredible. Like what in the Dyaisha Faire was I watching. I don't get how these players aren't pros, just so much talent. Imagine if her and Lucy were playing together as Hawkeyes for their this year. Anyways another 5th year player I'm happy to see play for another year but I won't get into all of that. The game was kind of on par for both teams. Iowa has been good, but not great. As you mentioned had a big lead, but showed some of their weaknesses and let Northern Iowa back into it. Even Lucy, she has been very good all season but not great, including in this game. Conversely, Northern Iowa has been in a ton of these games but lost at the end.
There are certain players, I wonder how anyone ever leaves them open to take a 3. If Taylor McCabe takes a shot, it's going to be behind the arc. That's a given. 166 out of 179 career FGA are 3's. Even more dramatic 74 of her 77 made FGs are from deep. She hits them at .446. It boggles my mind that every opponent doesn't just sell out stopping her from taking a 3 when she's in the game. She's not gonna drive to the hoop and score on you. How are teams scouting her?

Anyway she was 5-8 from deep tonight.
 
, but lost in the first round to Wright State. They were only a 10 seed in 2022 and went to the WNIT in 2023. Arkansas under Neighbors has hit 20 wins only 3 teams in Neighbor's tenure.
Ah..... the basketball powerhouse that the Grand Canyon Antelopes beat Wednesday 82-69.
 
I thought Stanford almost never took transfers?

I'm just now learning they got Stevenson (Big Ten FOY per media) and Heal (all-WCC at Santa Clara) from the portal.
First transfers since 2004. So yes, until they broke college sports, we didn't.
 
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