Week 11 - Jan 12 to 18

[Vowelguy]

Once WV missed the first FT they should have just bounced it off the rim with 2 seconds left and the lead. Never understood why teams give the opponent a chance to get the ball, call a TO and advance the ball!

Intentionally missing can be difficult. Unless your player is pretty skilled, decent chance they miss everything and then the other team gets the ball anyway.

 

[Vowelguy]

Marta Suarez nails a THREE at the horn...TCU beats West Virginia, 51-50.

Heartbreaker for WV. That would've been a huge resume-booster.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

Intentionally missing can be difficult. Unless your player is pretty skilled, decent chance they miss everything and then the other team gets the ball anyway.

That doesn’t for any reason negate that the better play is to attempt the miss and have the opponent scramble for the ball for 2 seconds. Hit the backboard, but ceding them set up and sub in shooters (Suarez) is not something you hand your opponent.

 

[Vowelguy]

That doesn’t for any reason negate that the better play is to attempt the miss and have the opponent scramble for the ball for 2 seconds. Hit the backboard, but ceding them set up and sub in shooters (Suarez) is not something you hand your opponent.

If you dont hit the rim, it's a deadball. No time runs off. Opponent gets the ball out of bounds. Then you're only up 1, they advance the ball, and only need a 2 to win.

 

[Centerstream]

That doesn’t for any reason negate that the better play is to attempt the miss and have the opponent scramble for the ball for 2 seconds. Hit the backboard, but ceding them set up and sub in shooters (Suarez) is not something you hand your opponent.

And if TCU cleanly rebounds the intentional miss, immediately call a TO before dribbling then they are in the same scenario.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

If you dont hit the rim, it's a deadball. No time runs off. Opponent gets the ball out of bounds. Then you're only up 1, they advance the ball, and only need a 2 to win.

MY POINT is…they should have tried. There was no reason not to….that I can think of. Their advantage was the lead, the clock and length of the floor…assuming there’s a scramble or not for the rebound.

 

[Vowelguy]

MY POINT is…they should have tried. There was no reason not to….that I can think of. Their advantage was the lead, the clock and length of the floor…assuming there’s a scramble or not for the rebound.

I just gave you a reason.

 

[Bone Dog]

I'm with @Vowelguy on this one. Intentional misses are a very high risk tactic. Even if you hit the rim, there's no telling where the rebound will go. And the odds of missing altogether are high. In this case, sinking the second free throw and relying on the defense seems like a better plan. It just didn't work out this time.

And, by the way, I'm really impressed by Marta Suarez this season.

 

[JellyBean]

Indiana is 0-7 in conference. Did anyone predict that? Tough schedule so far, and 2 of the next 3 are Ohio St. and Michigan. Purdue sandwiched inbetween, then Northwestern, Wisconsin and Purdue again. Then the LA school and Oregon, before finishing w/ Rutgers and Penn St. They'll be lucky to win more than 6 games at this rate.

Totally was not expecting Indiana to be 0-7 in the Big Ten.

 

[JellyBean]

Minnesota gave it a nice try against UCLA tonight. We made Kiki look like the player of the year out there. Kiki probably had one of her best games I have ever seen. Minnesota played hard and gave it a nice try. UCLA is going to be tough.

 

[Vowelguy]

I'm with @Vowelguy on this one. Intentional misses are a very high risk tactic. Even if you hit the rim, there's no telling where the rebound will go. And the odds of missing altogether are high. In this case, sinking the second free throw and relying on the defense seems like a better plan. It just didn't work out this time.

And, by the way, I'm really impressed by Marta Suarez this season.

If it were Diana or Paige at the line, I'd tell them to a miss. If it were a frosh, I wouldnt.

 

[Vowelguy]

Uh oh, IowaSt trailing again. Down to Colorado late in the 3rd.

Could start to impact Crooks' bid for first team AA.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

I'm with @Vowelguy on this one. Intentional misses are a very high risk tactic. Even if you hit the rim, there's no telling where the rebound will go. And the odds of missing altogether are high. In this case, sinking the second free throw and relying on the defense seems like a better plan. It just didn't work out this time.

And, by the way, I'm really impressed by Marta Suarez this season.

There’s no telling where the ball will go with 2 seconds (basically 1.6) is exactly what you want. There’s no planning, no subbing...basically chaos, BUT more importantly that takes TIME. Shrinking the clock on your opponent is defense. The only relevant score at this time is that you have the lead AND the only way to surrender that lead is to gift TCU time…which they did (by making the second ft). AND…they subbed in Suarez.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

For the record…the WVU coach was asked in the postgame presser if he even considered missing the 2nd FT. He said no.

 

[Bone Dog]

There’s no telling where the ball will go with 2 seconds (basically 1.6) is exactly what you want. There’s no planning, no subbing...basically chaos, BUT more importantly that takes TIME. Shrinking the clock on your opponent is defense. The only relevant score at this time is that you have the lead AND the only way to surrender that lead is to gift TCU time…which they did (by making the second ft). AND…they subbed in Suarez.

But the most likely result is a complete miss, which results in a deadball situation, clock stopped, Suarez subbed in anyway, etc. etc... and only a one point lead.

 

[Bigboote]

Uh oh, IowaSt trailing again. Down to Colorado late in the 3rd.

Could start to impact Crooks' bid for first team AA.

I’ve said in a couple of threads, Iowa State may just not be that good without Addy Brown. Another example this evening.

 

[Sifaka]

68 to 62, IS loses to Colorado.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Meanwhile Baylor beat Utah on the road. BU quietly 5-1 in Big 12. Maybe better than some were giving them credit for earlier in the season?

 

[Basingstoke]

I'm feeling sorry for Iowa State without Addie Brown. It seems to be too much for them to overcome. I hope they're able to get her back.

 

[visitingcock]

Uh oh, IowaSt trailing again. Down to Colorado late in the 3rd.

Could start to impact Crooks' bid for first team AA.

I would think that bid is toast especially after watching her defense last week.!

 

[Bone Dog]

I’ve said in a couple of threads, Iowa State may just not be that good without Addy Brown. Another example this evening.

Without Addy, the team is a few little guards and a very un-mobile post player. Addy is the other scoring threat and an excellent defender -- which Audi is not so much, though she had 15 rebounds, 4 blocks and 2 steals tonight. With Addy, the team can cover for Audi's defensive lapses, as well as supplying the scoring punch when she's off the floor. Jada can get hot from time to time, but that is not her strength. But even with these problems, Colorado only won because they got hot from 3 in the final 5 minutes. They shot poorly all game and then hit three 3s in a row to take the win.

 

[packwrap]

If you dont hit the rim, it's a deadball. No time runs off. Opponent gets the ball out of bounds. Then you're only up 1, they advance the ball, and onl

But the most likely result is a complete miss, which results in a deadball situation, clock stopped, Suarez subbed in anyway, etc. etc... and only a one point lead.

Not sure on this. I would say chance of complete miss 10%, chance of opponents making 3 pointer 30%.

I would choose missing the free throw. It's at least 1 second off clock, perhaps even game over.

 

[Centerstream]

This is from a story from the AP on the ESPN app concerning the latest ISU loss, to Colorado. Notice something that might have been proof read before publishing to the internet?
"Audi Crooks had 17 points and 15 rebounds for Iowa State (14-3, 2-4), which has lost four straight."