Week 1!!! 11/3-11/9

[Vowelguy]

Princeton beats GaTech !

DePaul loses to UNLV. 😢

 

[Stagnant]

Juju and Jazzy are going to be a great duo. Unfortunately, I’m not sure Gottlieb will be the right person to lead them.

Next year they will have four wings that want to do the same things on the basketball court. It will take a special coach to make that work.

 

[ConnMotors]

Next year they will have four wings that want to do the same things on the basketball court. It will take a special coach to make that work.

I would not be surprised if Juju isn’t there next year. She should be old enough for the WNBA and you also have the Saudi League starting up.

 

[FanInNC]

Well State certainly folded yesterday.

Thoughts on this specific game : really thought State was the better team, they just absolutely gave it away in the 4th. 4-14 with 8 turnovers and ending the game 0-5 and 0-2 at the line to lose by 1. I thought Davidson was fantastic, particularly in the 2nd for USC and I thought Jones was very good especially in the first half. Kara Dunn didn’t make the impact she’s capable of, but USC has a nice core there.

State played too selfish at times. Too much one on one. The ball stuck. They were 5-15 I think I read on lay ups - I’d argue a lot of that was because of poor ball movement and having to take contested lay ups in traffic. Wes has to figure out how to involve Tilda more. 7 shots isn’t enough. She’s a walking mismatch for most 5s in the college game at 6’6 and able to shoot the 3, not only that but she’s shown ability to pass and make smart basketball plays with the ball. Samuels shouldn’t have more attempts than Tilda. Pierre was 4-16 from the field - that’s wild and also probably an anomaly but certainly played into the fact State was -7 on second chance points despite dominating the glass by +14. Also Zam being limited due to foul trouble certainly changed this game which highlights States need to develop the bench more (although Quigley did her thing, someone else has to step up)

Big picture - ultimately not super concerned. 1-1 after 2 games against top 20 competition on neutral courts - both games came down to the wire, that coupled with a competitive win over Maryland on a neutral court in the pre season tells me State is in a good spot. They have a lot to improve on and left a lot of meat on the bone in these first couple of games but I also trust Wes to figure it out over the course of the season. State challenged themselves early, and it’ll benefit the team in the long run. They could be 2-0 with 40 point wins over N.C. Central and the like and feel good about things, but ultimately this path is better. Find your warts early and work to fix them.

Ultimately this is one they should have won and could have won. Would be great for the end of season resume but they also have plenty more opportunities to stack quality wins going forward.

But it always stings when you give away a game.

 

[typhaon]

I would not be surprised if Juju isn’t there next year. She should be old enough for the WNBA and you also have the Saudi League starting up.

But with $NIL and endorsements... what's the rush? She might be able to make more money/fame as a college star, no?

 

[Vowelguy]

But with $NIL and endorsements... what's the rush? She might be able to make more money/fame as a college star, no?

Than the W, yes.

Than the Saudis, no.

Those folks could dwarf the Russian oligarchs who funded the teams that D, Sue played for. The challenge would be getting women to go to a place where womens' rights are still limited. (But they can now drive cars!!)
Nneka has signed up.

 

[cancontent]

Than the W, yes.

Than the Saudis, no.

Those folks could dwarf the Russian oligarchs who funded the teams that D, Sue played for. The challenge would be getting women to go to a place where womens' rights are still limited. (But they can now drive cars!!)
Nneka has signed up.

To clarify, Project B reports that it is not Saudi funded.

Project B Basketball League Says It Has No Saudi Funding

The startup’s cofounder tells FOS that its fundraising “doesn’t include any dollars from Saudi Arabia.” The league has a Saudi event partner.

frontofficesports.com

 

[Vowelguy]

To clarify, Project B reports that it is not Saudi funded.

Project B Basketball League Says It Has No Saudi Funding

The startup’s cofounder tells FOS that its fundraising “doesn’t include any dollars from Saudi Arabia.” The league has a Saudi event partner.

frontofficesports.com

Thank you for the info.

I did some digging and it looks like Saudi involvement is unclear. Eg, I found this:

 

[cancontent]

Thank you for the info.

I did some digging and it looks like Saudi involvement is unclear. Eg, I found this:

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Hence why I said "reports". Who really knows for sure?

 

[ConnMotors]

But with $NIL and endorsements... what's the rush? She might be able to make more money/fame as a college star, no?

Yes for college and NIL. But, I am still wondering about this Saudi League upstart

 

[sivad40]

I would not be surprised if Juju isn’t there next year. She should be old enough for the WNBA and you also have the Saudi League starting up.

She won't be old enough for the WNBA next year. In order for an underclassmen to be eligible, they have to turn 22 anytime during the year the draft is held.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Arkansas in real danger of losing to Central Arkansas. Gotta watch out for those Sugar Bears!

 

[nwhoopfan]

Washington avenged a terrible loss from last season to Montana. Cruised from beginning to end. No Ladine again.

 

[nwhoopfan]

When will I learn? Arkansas forces OT. I think it was a 6 point game w/ around 2 minutes left.

 

[TheFarmFan]

Tried to watch the Pac-12 Judas team that bought Judases from Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Utah, and Washington State (think about that for a moment) take on the team that bought an 18 year old for $1 Miiiiiillion dollars, and I couldn't do it.

Maybe I'm just bitter, but the pay to play has really killed my interest in WCBB. Sigh.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Tried to watch the Pac-12 Judas team that bought Judases from Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Utah, and Washington State (think about that for a moment) take on the team that bought an 18 year old for $1 Miiiiiillion dollars, and I couldn't do it.

Maybe I'm just bitter, but the pay to play has really killed my interest in WCBB. Sigh.

So 1 million dollars buys you a 1-12 shooting performance? After 5-18 in the previous game. What was the hype about? I know it's only her second game, but usually Fr. that are really, really good hit the ground running.

 

[TheFarmFan]

So 1 million dollars buys you a 1-12 shooting performance? After 5-18 in the previous game. What was the hype about? I know it's only her second game, but usually Fr. that are really, really good hit the ground running.

Don't try to make it make sense. It doesn't. On an open, regulated and functional free market, no one would pay that because it's not worth it. A'ja isn't getting paid that to play ball and she's the GOAT. It's actually painful even to think about that...

 

[dws3665]

When will I learn? Arkansas forces OT. I think it was a 6 point game w/ around 2 minutes left.

Hogs won by 12 in OT. Messy game, and Arkansas doesn't have tons of talent, but Coach Musick has them scrapping. At least so far.

 

[cancontent]

So 1 million dollars buys you a 1-12 shooting performance? After 5-18 in the previous game. What was the hype about? I know it's only her second game, but usually Fr. that are really, really good hit the ground running.

She was 4-16 last night. It's not much better, however it definitely wasn't 1-12.

 

[oldude]

Don't try to make it make sense. It doesn't. On an open, regulated and functional free market, no one would pay that because it's not worth it. A'ja isn't getting paid that to play ball and she's the GOAT. It's actually painful even to think about that...

It is an open and functional (disfunctional?) free market. As for regulated? Not so much.

Chavez and her “handlers” took a shot at seeing what the market for top WBB recruits would bear by initiating a bidding war. Surely, she will not be the last to do so.

As for whether or not she’s worth a million $, time will tell, although the initial ROI is questionable.

 

[visitingcock]

It is an open and functional (disfunctional?) free market. As for regulated? Not so much.

Chavez and her “handlers” took a shot at seeing what the market for top WBB recruits would bear by initiating a bidding war. Surely, she will not be the last to do so.

As for whether or not she’s worth a million $, time will tell, although the initial ROI is questionable.

Let’s not forget that the House settlement put a cap on a school’s NIL direct pay of 20.5 million per year. Most SEC schools intend to allocate 5 percent of that cap to women’s basketball. Football will grab the biggest share at most, if not all, P-5s - followed by mbb. Most SEC schools intend to allocate 5 percent of the 20.5 million for wbb. That’s a hair less than 1 million bucks for a whole roster per year! For a school like SCar with a 10 player roster (plus Chloe?) that’s a bit less than 100,000 per year on average .

Of course, individual prospects can make their own deals with 3rd parties and schools can help them find those 3rd parties. That can be hard to estimate in a bidding war for prospects. You can promise the 1 million but not the 3rd party income,

 

[JellyBean]

Huge win for UCLA last night. Great to watch the battle between Betts & Beers. Chavez is going to be fun to watch this season and into the future for Oklahoma.

 

[Stagnant]

I am not sure about either Beers or Betts in the pros. And last night did nothing to change my mind. I think the league is moving more towards the mobile stretch centers; like dorka juhasz. I thought Britney Griner even struggled to look like she fit in the league last year.

 

[YKCornelius]

Not a great game for either Betts or Beers last night, although I must say it looked like the refs were allowing a lot of physical play to transpire, which partially explains the low shooting percentages by both teams. Kneepkens was very impressive, as was Dugalic. The physical play didn't faze either one of them at all.

As a UConn fan, my biggest take away was that UCLA didn't simply focus their offense through Betts like they did all of last year, including into the NCAA tournament. They actually moved the ball around quite a bit and, perhaps realizing that with Beers' attention on Betts, their offense opened up considerably. That bodes well for the Bruins down the road.

At this point in the season, I think UCLA is the #2 team in the country.

Kudos to Cori for scheduling an aggressive OOC schedule. If the Bruins can get through a tough November, I believe they will have a very good chance of running the table through the Big Ten. I wouldn't be surprised if WCBB sees a rewrite of 2014, when two undefeated teams (UConn and Notre Dame) squared off in the National Championship game.

 

[oldude]

Let’s not forget that the House settlement put a cap on a school’s NIL direct pay of 20.5 million per year. Most SEC schools intend to allocate 5 percent of that cap to women’s basketball. Football will grab the biggest share at most, if not all, P-5s - followed by mbb. Most SEC schools intend to allocate 5 percent of the 20.5 million for wbb. That’s a hair less than 1 million bucks for a whole roster per year! For a school like SCar with a 10 player roster (plus Chloe?) that’s a bit less than 100,000 per year on average .

Of course, individual prospects can make their own deals with 3rd parties and schools can help them find those 3rd parties. That can be hard to estimate in a bidding war for prospects. You can promise the 1 million but not the 3rd party income,

It just seems like there will be a number of ways for creative alums with deep pockets to circumvent any proposed rules.