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Waquoit said:
I think Ollie’s side will handle it like Pauly in Goodfellas. Blank you, pay me.
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This is the most likely scenario, unless KO just doesn’t want to do this anymore.
 
Storrs South said:
They realized things were not up to standard at Washington, NC State, and Ohio State last year. Washington was KenPom 163 last year, now they are KenPom 103 and 1st overall pick Markelle Fultz was there the year prior.

North Carolina State was KenPom 109 last year, in comes the new coach and now they are KenPoom 55 and they lost Dennis Smith Jr. to the draft.

Ohio St. was KenPom 73 last year, out goes the old coach in comes the new coach and now they are KenPom 16 after dealing with a ton of roster turnover. The impact of these hires was felt immediately.

All of these cases the teams lost a lot of talent yet good coaching overcame the issue and made the programs better off in both the short & long terms.

By comparison, when Jamie Dixon was fired from Pitt, they were KenPom 37 had just made the tournament as an 10 seed and went 21-12 in the ACC. We would not be having this conversation today if KO could meet that very low bar. We are KenPom 172 as of this posting, an absolute embarrassment. Back to back losing seasons now for KO -- apples and oranges comparison between KO & Dixon.
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That, and Dixon wasn’t actually fired.
 
Captbluefin said:
Those 3 teams are in the PAC12, The Big 10 and the ACC... Not mid-major AAC..

The most honest statement in this thread is.

“Everyone ready to roll the dice”

And it will be for all the money. If new coach does not get it done so are we..

We are way more likely to end up like PITT than Ohio State, NC State or even Washington..

Digest that
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We are Pitt (minus the P5 money). We are irrelevant.

If we hire another coach and remain irrelevant, so be it. At least we can say we tried. But to continue on this path is program suicide.
 
We will have a new coach next yr. He is Kevin Ollie with new players. You wont believe how much one-two new players make u look so much smarter
 
Captbluefin said:
Those 3 teams are in the PAC12, The Big 10 and the ACC... Not mid-major AAC..

The most honest statement in this thread is.

“Everyone ready to roll the dice”

And it will be for all the money. If new coach does not get it done so are we..

We are way more likely to end up like PITT than Ohio State, NC State or even Washington..

Digest that
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We already are Pitt.

UConn KenPom 172
Pitt KenPom 232

That's one in the same to me.

KO isn't working. I'd like to see if someone else can tackle the job. You are also short selling the UConn brand/facilities/recruiting grounds that a new coach can't come in and figure it out. All 3 schools listed above are inferior in all 3 aspects by comparison.
 
Captbluefin said:
Those 3 teams are in the PAC12, The Big 10 and the ACC... Not mid-major AAC..

The most honest statement in this thread is.

“Everyone ready to roll the dice”

And it will be for all the money. If new coach does not get it done so are we..

We are way more likely to end up like PITT than Ohio State, NC State or even Washington..

Digest that
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How many losing years in a row would you give Ollie before you considered doing something?
 
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Drame said:
I think the answer is clear. Calhoun comes back to work for free.. not a dime.
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Drame - Good luck with that conversation - Let me know how the working for nothing conversation goes with Jim?
 
Greathusky said:
I am done watching or going to a UCONN MBB game till KO is gone.

But I will always come back to the Boneyard because you guys speak the truth!
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Have'nt watched a complete mens game in years. Painful to watch. Now that WTIC and Uconn have ended boradcasting contract, won't have to listen to them anymore either.
 
Robertelamin said:
How many losing years in a row would you give Ollie before you considered doing something?
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If you do not have a chance at a Big time Coach do not just hire what you can get to chsnge for the sake of change.

This is going to be like picking the best looking girl at closing time at the bar..

Ready for a single digit win season???? Could very well be what you get..

A big time Coach will keep most players/ recruits and draw recruits...

Some guy who had a good season or two in some mid- major or some “ up and coming “ coach who is not a big recruiter nor knows how to recruit with the big boys is going to crash and burn here..

Take it to the bank
 
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Captbluefin said:
If you do not have a chance at a Big time Coach do not just hire what you can get to chsnge for the sake of change.

This is going to be like picking the best looking girl at closing time at the bar..

Ready for a single digit win season???? Could very well be what you get..

A big time Coach will keep most players/ recruits and draw recruits...

Some guy who had a good season or two in some mid- major or some “ up and coming “ coach who is not a big recruiter nor knows how to recruit with the big boys is going to crash and burn here..

Take it to the bank
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are you going to pay $5mm of your own money to hire this so-called "Big time coach?"

Who do you consider to be a "big time coach?"
 
i really really really hope that *if* KO is out that we push for dan hurley. really think this is the man to take us forward and i love how he instills confidence in his players whereas our coaches love to sit down in the most crucial moments of a game. dan never puts his head down and the players definitely take note of that, they just know that he's trusting them and that they trust him. don't think that's what our squad has at the moment with the current setup.
 
JMick said:
are you going to pay $5mm of your own money to hire this so-called "Big time coach?"

Who do you consider to be a "big time coach?"
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The only "big time" coach I've heard mentioned (credibly, I'll add) is Chris Mack. That's the "bigger fish" I was referring to here:

Program is close to becoming a.....

I do not believe we'll get him (Louisville will, or he'll stay at Xavier).

I'd offer that if URI make it to the Elite 8, Hurley will be considered a bigtime coach. And I think it's better than 50/50 that he's coaching UConn next year.

EDIT: My second choice would be Joe Dooley of FGCU. Five straight 20-win seasons, bigtime recruiter (he was at Kansas for a decade), on the verge of a third straight NCAA tourney trip. He'll be coaching a big school next year.
 
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Storrs South said:
We already are Pitt.

UConn KenPom 172
Pitt KenPom 232

That's one in the same to me.

KO isn't working. I'd like to see if someone else can tackle the job. You are also short selling the UConn brand/facilities/recruiting grounds that a new coach can't come in and figure it out. All 3 schools listed above are inferior in all 3 aspects by comparison.
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Put down your pom-poms and take off your blue colored glasses..

The brand/facilities/ recruiting grounds. Really????

Those schools conference Trumps all of them. We are inferior to them..

JC was a once in a lifetime coach who performed a miracle in Storrs. Cherish the memories..
 
Captbluefin said:
If you do not have a chance at a Big time Coach do not just hire what you can get to chsnge for the sake of change.

This is going to be like picking the best looking girl at closing time at the bar..

Ready for a single digit win season???? Could very well be what you get..

A big time Coach will keep most players/ recruits and draw recruits...

Some guy who had a good season or two in some mid- major or some “ up and coming “ coach who is not a big recruiter nor knows how to recruit with the big boys is going to crash and burn here..

Take it to the bank
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You didn't directly answer my question so I'm assuming you would take losing seasons indefinitely until Sean Miller or Chris Mack are available.
 
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Matrim55 said:
The only coach I've heard mentioned (credibly, I'll add) is Chris Mack. That's the "bigger fish" I was referring to here:

Program is close to becoming a.....

I do not believe we'll get him (Louisville will, or he'll stay at Xavier).

I'd offer that if URI make it to the Elite 8, Hurley will be considered a bigtime coach. And I think it's better than 50/50 that he's coaching UConn next year.

EDIT: My second choice would be Joe Dooley of FGCU. Five straight 20-win seasons, bigtime recruiter (he was at Kansas for a decade), on the verge of a third straight NCAA tourney trip. He'll be coaching a big school next year.
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Joe dooley is a really really good shout, and I don't think mack will jump to louisville, i think Padgett (to me at least; which means nothing) will get the job considering the pressure around him and how well he has his team playing.

Would anyone here consider mark schmidt at st. bonaventure?
 
Matrim55 said:
The only coach I've heard mentioned (credibly, I'll add) is Chris Mack. That's the "bigger fish" I was referring to here:

Program is close to becoming a.....

I do not believe we'll get him (Louisville will, or he'll stay at Xavier).

I'd offer that if URI make it to the Elite 8, Hurley will be considered a bigtime coach. And I think it's better than 50/50 that he's coaching UConn next year.

EDIT: My second choice would be Joe Dooley of FGCU. Five straight 20-win seasons, bigtime recruiter (he was at Kansas for a decade), on the verge of a third straight NCAA tourney trip. He'll be coaching a big school next year.
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If Hurley gets to the sweet sixteen or elite eight this year you could argue he has a better resume for what we need than Mack. Chris Mack took over a program that was already on the upswing thanks to Sean Miller. Hurley has rebuilt two dumpster fires. Not to say I'd be disappointed with either.
 
Robertelamin said:
You didn't directly answer my question so I'm assuming you would take losing seasons indefinitely until Sean Miller or Chris Mack are available.
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Miller or Mack????

WOW !!! People really think you have even the slightest chance??

Now I see how delusional some of this fanbase is...

Thanks for the laugh this morning....
 
HuskyBoi said:
Would anyone here consider mark schmidt at st. bonaventure?
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No. His success is all about lucking into Jaylen Adams. Other than the last 3 years he's been an average coach at best.

JMick said:
If Hurley gets to the sweet sixteen or elite eight this year you could argue he has a better resume for what we need than Mack. Chris Mack took over a program that was already on the upswing thanks to Sean Miller. Hurley has rebuilt two dumpster fires. Not to say I'd be disappointed with either.
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I agree with you 100%. Mack's a really good coach, but he's never had to dig a program out of a ditch. Hurley's a specialist at that.
 
Captbluefin said:
Miller or Mack????

WOW !!! People really think you have even the slightest chance??

Now I see how delusional some of this fanbase is...

Thanks for the laugh this morning....
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you still haven't given a single name for your "big time coaching hire."

you also haven't said how many losing seasons we should endure before we fire Ollie.
 
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JMick said:
you still haven't given a single name for your "big time coaching hire."

you also haven't said how many losing seasons we should endure before we fire Ollie.
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Because he really thinks Ollie, who has a record of 28-31 over the last two seasons and 73-57 since the National Title (that's over 4 years) is the best we can do. Talk about thinking so little of the program.
 
JMick said:
you still haven't given a single name for your "big time coaching hire."

you also haven't said how many losing seasons we should endure before we fire Ollie.
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Now he just seems like a troll from a different fanbase, especially given this comment:

"WOW !!! People really think you have even the slightest chance??

Now I see how delusional some of this fanbase is..."
 
JMick said:
you still haven't given a single name for your "big time coaching hire."

you also haven't said how many losing seasons we should endure before we fire Ollie.
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There is no big time coach available who will come here. Your best option is Hurley but it depends on who you have to fight with to get him. And I am not convinced he is the answer.

We should not have to endure any more losing seasons with Ollie. But if it takes a year to get the right man so be it.. We only have one shot here or we are done.

This is not professional sports. You don’t have players under contract. A new coach can come into a job knowing he has a few assets to work with..
Our new coach could very well have nothing. We had nothing this year but at least we had Jalen and CV. A new hire most likely will not even have that. So after he bombs a year the recruits are really going to line up to play for him?? Ahhh No
 
Matrim55 said:
The only "big time" coach I've heard mentioned (credibly, I'll add) is Chris Mack. That's the "bigger fish" I was referring to here:

Program is close to becoming a.....

I do not believe we'll get him (Louisville will, or he'll stay at Xavier).

I'd offer that if URI make it to the Elite 8, Hurley will be considered a bigtime coach. And I think it's better than 50/50 that he's coaching UConn next year.

EDIT: My second choice would be Joe Dooley of FGCU. Five straight 20-win seasons, bigtime recruiter (he was at Kansas for a decade), on the verge of a third straight NCAA tourney trip. He'll be coaching a big school next year.
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The fact that Benedict thinks he can get Mack makes it seem as though money won't be an issue for the next coach.
 
tcf15 said:
Now he just seems like a troll from a different fanbase, especially given this comment:

"WOW !!! People really think you have even the slightest chance??

Now I see how delusional some of this fanbase is..."
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Just as much a fan as you oh exalted one !!

I am in reality regarding our situation...And the damages done by KO and the media this year..
 
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