WE are a basketball School | Page 3 | The Boneyard

WE are a basketball School

Status
Not open for further replies.
Yankees32123 said:
But while we wait for football, we risk having to watch our basketball program crumble. Football is going to take years. And UConn's presence would take the NBE to a new level. There's risks and benefits to each scenario. Joining the NBE would support our Bball program in the immediate future and give new respect to the NBE as a conference, but sink our already sunk football program. Waiting for a P5 invite and staying in the AAC will sink our basketball team over time while we try and grow the football program. The latter is not worth it.
Expand ...
It took Football 8 years from elevation to Division 1A to a New Years Day Bowl game.
 
Yankees32123 said:
The only con I can see to joining the Big East given our current athletic situation is the fact that their TV contract is with Fox Sports 1...
Expand ...
That's a pretty big con.
 
Stairmaster said:
I suppose you'll enjoy cheering on our "elite" basketball program against the Holy Crosses and Trinity Colleges of the world. That's the scenario we will be looking at long-term if we do not get into a P5 conference.
Expand ...
Huh we will still be playing against Gtown, St Johns and Villanova. So not all that bad as at least we won't have to hold onto a fairy tale that won't ever happen.
 
Husky25 said:
That's great...We're screwed either way so let's take one of the options off the table and self impose an increase of the incline to the already seemingly mountainous uphill obstacle of a journey. Yeah, let's do that...
Expand ...


I get your position I really do. I would feel the same way you do if I thought there was even the remotest chance we got an invite in the next decade.
Since I don't believe we are, I have moved on to the next best thing.

To all those who are P5 or bust: What happens if WE DONT get in P5 in next decade? That's what I want to know. If you are honest with yourselves and a hoops fan, the answer is a better basketball conference.
 
.-.
I think the people arguing for UConn staying in the this wreck of a conference our the football fans. All true basketball fans know that saving the bball program is the most important thing and we also know it is a pipe dream we ever get into a P5 conference. Hey I understand it won't happen us leaving this conference for the NBE but you can't say you don't understand why so many people are unhappy we have to go down with the horrible football team. I'm always been a basketball fan and only care a little about the football team because I went to school there. It is like I how care about women's bball . I only care about them when they are playing in the post season.
 
Yankees32123 said:
Because we got the Big East auto bid to a BCS bowl. We wouldn't have otherwise. We are no where near P5 football level.
Expand ...
Which is how it works.
 
3rdbass said:
Huh we will still be playing against Gtown, St Johns and Villanova. So not all that bad as at least we won't have to hold onto a fairy tale that won't ever happen.
Expand ...

For the equivalent of the DII national title. Sorry, I'll take whatever chance I can to keep us playing with the big boys.
 
.-.
FartMan69 said:
There is a reason that no school without major football has won a title this millennium.
Expand ...
LOL I love how you said this millennium since we did win it in 1999 without being a major football player. But they was convenient to leave out the '99 team with your comment. Also, Butler got close twice and should have beat Duke that one year.
 
August_West said:
We have a major football program? Our football program is the laughingstock of every single P5 school in America. Seriously, they laugh at us.
Expand ...
FBS. Playing stupid wont win this argument.
 
3rdbass said:
LOL I love how you said this millennium since we did win it in 1999 without being a major football player. But they was convenient to leave out the '99 team with your comment. Also, Butler got close twice and should have beat Duke that one year.
Expand ...
Also convenient how we upgraded and won 3 more.
 
Yankees32123 said:
The only con I can see to joining the Big East given our current athletic situation is the fact that their TV contract is with Fox Sports 1. I'd rather be on ESPN but at least you can stream on Fox Sports Go (duck* you CBS Sports Network)
Expand ...
Seriously I don't understand how CBS sports network can be so backward. No steaming at all??
 
FartMan69 said:
Also convenient how we upgraded and won 3 more.
Expand ...
There are schools without big football programs who have been close/have the ability to win a Bball national championship. And they're all in the NBE.
 
I commented on this article on the CR Board/Non-Key Tweets early this morning. It absolute makes no sense to join the NBE at this time. Any posters that disagree are viewing the basketball program through a straw, without any consideration to the university as a whole including research, academics, financials, exposure, etc. As I've said past, if UConn is joining the NBE, all is lost, and it has thrown in the towel in its pursuit to be a leading, national university.
 
.-.
3rdbass said:
I think people are delusional if they think a P5 will ever pick us because of our football program. Our hopes reside in basketball and if that locks us out so be it. Our football program is now in permanent purgatory. We want to stay in a football conference to move up but unfortunately this football conference will never be good enough for us to do so as our recruiting is getting worst and worst. Let's just stop pretending we will ever be a good football program(our chances passed with the old big east) and join the new big east and save our Bball teams.
Expand ...
Nah, a P5 conference will pick us because:

1) We are one of the larger markets available
2) We'd give them a presence in NYC, at least for hoops
3) We provide suscribers for a confernence television network
4) We provide quality content over a broad range of sports for a confernence television network
5) We are an excellent academic institution
6) We are the best basketball school in the country (men)
7) We have a proven ability to win championships accross a broad range of sport (goes to quality of the athletics dept.)
8) We have excellent facilities (goes to quality of the athletics dept.)
9) We have nationwide name recognition.
10) We give them the ability so schedule games in NY/NE for their wealthy alumns to attend.

You are correct that they won't pick us because of football, currently, but existence of football is the key that unlocks door.
No football = no consideration.
 
Last edited:
3rdbass said:
I think the people arguing for UConn staying in the this wreck of a conference our the football fans. All true basketball fans know that saving the bball program is the most important thing and we also know it is a pipe dream we ever get into a P5 conference. Hey I understand it won't happen us leaving this conference for the NBE but you can't say you don't understand why so many people are unhappy we have to go down with the horrible football team. I'm always been a basketball fan and only care a little about the football team because I went to school there. It is like I how care about women's bball . I only care about them when they are playing in the post season.
Expand ...

This whole thread is driving me insane. You state that your detractors only care about football, but you and Yanks fan have declared in this very same thread you ONLY care about basketball...Face palm! What you can't seem to get through your thick skulls is that people holding out for the P5 support BOTH..scratch that THE ENTIRE AD. We get that it may be a long shot, but it is the only shot we have to maintain the high level of athletic excellence we have all had the PRIVILEGE to enjoy for 20+ years. Your assumption that we have no shot at P5 is wrong and that abandoning football for short term satisfaction is misguided. As has already been stated, the BE would be better immediately, but what you fail to understand is the long term disadvantage. The BE will be booted by the P5 and not allowed into their BB tournament that sure as S&*$ will come......Finally, the BE isn't going anywhere. What is the harm of looking out for the best chance for UConn (holding out for the P5) and if the p5 invite is DEFINITIVELY dead, then we can crawl back to the BE. End rant
 
CL82 said:
Nah, a P5 conference will pick us because:

1) We are one of the larger markets available
2) We'd give them a presence in NYC, at least for hoops
3) We provide suscribers for a confernence television network
4) We provide quality content over a broad range of sports for a confernence television network
5) We are an excellent academic institution
6) We are the best basketball school in the country (men)
7) We have a proven ability to win championships accross a broad range of sport (goes to quality of the athletics dept.)
8) We have excellent facilities (goes to quality of the athletics dept.)
9) We have nationwide name recognition.
10) We given them the ability so schedule games in NY/NE for their wealthy alumns to attend.

You are correct that they won't pick us because of football, currently, but existence of football is the key that unlocks door.
No football = no consideration.
Expand ...
Ok keeping thinking positive. It hasn't happened when our football program was better and in a viable in conference it certainly won't happen when it the football program is in shambles and in the AAC. We are holding on to a pipe dream until I hear otherwise.
 
O.K. I will make this a clear and as short as I can.

Why do you clowns think Lou Perkins pushed for big time football in the first place? One reason and one reason only. TO PROTECT OUR BASKETBALL PROGRAMS. Why? Because the day is coming when you won't be able to compete for national basketball championships without playing big time football. Why is that? Either because football money/exposure will make those who don't play it unable to compete in other sports, or because (as I think is likely) the P-5 won't be part of the NCAA ten years down the road and they will have one tourney and the Big East will play against Mountain West and the American and the A-Ten and lesser leagues for a separate one that no one will recognize.

So yes, it sucks to be where we are and yes, there is no guaranty that we will ever be back in the big time. But moving to the Big East is a death sentence. Maybe one that won't play out for 20 years, but a death sentence nonetheless. We have no realistic choice but to play this out and see what happens until we are invited back in or the door is clearly closed (which it is not yet). And then, if the door closes with us on the outside, then we can have this discussion (and I doubt anyone would then object to going to the Big East).

Oh, two last thoughts. Quit whining. This period in limbo sucks as much for football fans as it does for basketball fans. And we're not even one year away from a national basketball championship. Some of you have the attention span of chipmonks to be throwing in the towel this early and easily. And you clowns must be smarter than me, because I don't see anywhere that the Big East invited us and we turned it down (and while there are reasons ($$$) for the Big East to take us, there are also reasons as to "fit," our resources and not wanting to be stuck behind us that the Big EAst may be far happier without us. The chicken turds.)
 
I don't think anyone really wants to be in the AAC, but I can't be the only one who thinks the clamoring for the Big East is nothing more than a reaction to the current season we are having?

Coming of a national championship and sitting at 12-9 is disappointing, for sure, but if we win 4 of those games we lost (probably Texas, Yale, Temple, and Houston), being 16-5 overall and 7-2 in the conference, while still disappointing, probably doesn't elicit some of the responses in here that the UConn basketball program is in danger.
 
Yankees32123 said:
There are schools without big football programs who have been close/have the ability to win a Bball national championship.
Expand ...
Yup and once the P5 breaks away they wont even have a chance. If you want to kill the one thing that gives us the slightest chance to ever get back with the big boys just so we can compete against catholic schools with enrollments smaller than E.O Smith, that's on you.
 
.-.
Big Calihouns said:
This whole thread is driving me insane. You state that your detractors only care about football, but you and Yanks fan have declared in this very same thread you ONLY care about basketball...Face palm! What you can't seem to get through your thick skulls is that people holding out for the P5 support BOTH..scratch that THE ENTIRE AD. We get that it may be a long shot, but it is the only shot we have to maintain the high level of athletic excellence we have all had the PRIVILEGE to enjoy for 20+ years. Your assumption that we have no shot at P5 is wrong and that abandoning football for short term satisfaction is misguided. As has already been stated, the BE would be better immediately, but what you fail to understand is the long term disadvantage. The BE will be booted by the P5 and not allowed into their BB tournament that sure as S&*$ will come.Finally, the BE isn't going anywhere. What is the harm of looking out for the best chance for UConn (holding out for the P5) and if the DEFINITIVELY is dead then we can crawl back to the BE. End rant
Expand ...
Well some of us have already come to realization that it isn't going to happen no matter how people want to pain us being in a big market and being accepted into the AAU. We had a chance if the Old Big East was still around but it isn't so we just want to enjoy the remaining years we can while we have a chance to be relevant in college basketball. I don't see were being in the AAC is really helping to promote UCONN football. It just seems to be holding onto a mirage.
It is also holding back a lot of Olympic sports since they are stuck in bad financial status due to the horrible travel.

I do realize it won't happen joining the NBE though with all the money that was invested into the football team. Unfortunately we are stuck do die this slow death.
 
CL82 said:
Nah, a P5 conference will pick us because:

1) We are one of the larger markets available
2) We'd give them a presence in NYC, at least for hoops
3) We provide suscribers for a confernence television network
4) We provide quality content over a broad range of sports for a confernence television network
5) We are an excellent academic institution
6) We are the best basketball school in the country (men)
7) We have a proven ability to win championships accross a broad range of sport (goes to quality of the athletics dept.)
8) We have excellent facilities (goes to quality of the athletics dept.)
9) We have nationwide name recognition.
10) We given them the ability so schedule games in NY/NE for their wealthy alumns to attend.

You are correct that they won't pick us because of football, currently, but existence of football is the key that unlocks door.
No football = no consideration.
Expand ...


I believe that is true today,(so then why no invite already?!) but I also believe that every year that passes without an invite that numbers 2,3,4,6,7 diminish and it is easier to pass us over as time goes forward.. In a couple years once the conference realignment coffers dry up, we will be trying to compete on average with 5-8 times less money every year than a P5 school. How is that sustainable? Number 9 - I think our national name recognition is OK, but for a program that has been as successful as we have been our brand isnt that strong. Syracuse for all their lousy crap on the hoops floor and gridiron has better National name recognition than us (and god that pains me to say and makes me angry)
 
You can't get through to these people. Let them have their occasional threads. Keeps things interesting
 
3rdbass said:
Well some of us have already come to realization that it isn't going to happen no matter how people want to pain us being in a big market and being accepted into the AAU. We had a chance if the Old Big East was still around but it isn't so we just want to enjoy the remaining years we can while we have a chance to be relevant in college basketball. I don't see were being in the AAC is really helping to promote UCONN football. It just seems to be holding onto a mirage.
It is also holding back a lot of Olympic sports since they are stuck in bad financial status due to the horrible travel.
Expand ...

I guess you've put the nail in the coffin. What happens if we do make it out to the P5...will you thank us optimistic folks? Don't worry man, I'll welcome you right back on the bandwagon haha
 
August_West said:
I get your position I really do. I would feel the same way you do if I thought there was even the remotest chance we got an invite in the next decade.
Since I don't believe we are, I have moved on to the next best thing.

To all those who are P5 or bust: What happens if WE DONT get in P5 in next decade? That's what I want to know. If you are honest with yourselves and a hoops fan, the answer is a better basketball conference.
Expand ...

That is fine if that is the way you feel, but all signs (to me) indicate otherwise.

1. Increased State funding
2. Increased focus in S.T.E.M. fields of study
3. Increased in quality of Faculty
4. Expansion in graduate research
5. Increased endowment

Alone, these 5 steps in academia greatly contribute to UConn's profile, which I believe is aimed at the Big Ten.

Add to that the fact that UConn will offer Offering 4 year Full cost of attendance (similar to P5) the writing is on the wall that UConn is a leading candidate for inclusion.

You may call this overly optimistic, but I have to believe it. Reason? I love rooting for my alma mater. I donate to the School of Business Administration and to the Athletic Dept. I want to see both continue to succeed, but as I reach middle age, all I really want from college sports is to be entertained. A program that is not playing at the highest level or has no possibility of winning is not entertaining in the least. I went through it from the time I was 7 years old until my early 20's as a Red Sox fan. I will not do it again and UConn will, by and large, lose my support.
 
.-.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,158
Messages
4,555,325
Members
10,440
Latest member
Regan23


Top Bottom