Was Edsall that good or is Pasqualoni that bad?

[rich1122]

While I agree with this, the flip side is that in 12 years Edsall won one game against a ranked opponent. An opponent that would finish the season unranked. In just two years P has already beaten a ranked opponent. One that just won the conference's BCS bid and most assuredly will end the season ranked.

P's ass is on the line. He knows it, the fans know it, Warde knows it.

When Edsall left, he left a situation he will never have again, and that no one at UConn will ever have again. Edsall could have been 7-5, 8-4, 5-6, at UConn year after year and never been in any danger. He never had to try and develop a passing game and churned out records like the ones above forever here simply relying on the running game. Count me in along with those that felt he left in no small part because the best he had coming back at QB was a walk on, and the best he had coming back at running back was a rather slow 5-6, 166lb running back.

That is not giving P a pass, because there was more than enough talent left to make a bowl this year, especially given that we lost games to three atrocious teams in Western Michigan, USF, and Temple.

With QB situation he would have done the same, maybe 2 more wins.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

If its Edsall and P behind doors number 1 & 2 I'm rolling the dice with door #3.

 

[whaler11]

If its Edsall and P behind doors number 1 & 2 I'm rolling the dice with door #3.

Just pray it's not Skip Holtz.

 

[businesslawyer]

The first question has long since ceased being relevant. Only the second question is relevant.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Just pray it's not Skip Holtz.

Could do worse. Holtz walked into South Bend and beat the Irish. Can't imagine P or Edsall doing that.

 

[whaler11]

Could do worse. Holtz walked into South Bend and beat the Irish. Can't imagine P or Edsall doing that.

Yeah we have worse than Holtz now!

Were you making a joke as according to the internet P never won in South Bend?

I struggle to think of a game where a team won on the road being as outplayed as USF was at Notre Dame.

 

[Colt45]

If given the time at Maryland, which I think he will get, randy will turn Maryland into a consistently good/great program every year. The guys he is bringing in are far more talented than anyone he brought in at uconn. As stated before, he can develop talent and with the caliber of players he is getting it will be interesting to see how they do in the coming years.

 

[whaler11]

If given the time at Maryland, which I think he will get, randy will turn Maryland into a consistently good/great program every year. The guys he is bringing in are far more talented than anyone he brought in at uconn. As stated before, he can develop talent and with the caliber of players he is getting it will be interesting to see how they do in the coming years.

I like Edsall and agree that Maryland will be fine, but he needed Locksley to raise the recruiting level.

He'll get them to 8-9 wins and stick there - like Fridgen with better academics.

 

[SAMCRO]

To answer the OP, yes Edsall was good here, and yes P has been that bad here.

 

[Colt45]

A big difference between the two, Edsall got rid of his OC after one year because he wasn't satisfied with his performance and replaced him with a recruiting juggernaut. P is sticking with his incompetent buddy and we will all find out where it will get him.

 

[noeynox]

I like Edsall and agree that Maryland will be fine, but he needed Locksley to raise the recruiting level.

He'll get them to 8-9 wins and stick there - like Fridgen with better academics.

I really don't get this. UMD is having worse attendance issues than us. Maybe not in total numbers but definately in capacity filled. The amount of empty seats seen on TV at their games is staggering. Maybe he wins enough this year to stick around and benefit from the attendance bump from their move to the BiG, but every thing I read on their boards, their fans collectively hate him more than we hate P.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Yeah we have worse than Holtz now!

Were you making a joke as according to the internet P never won in South Bend?

I struggle to think of a game where a team won on the road being as outplayed as USF was at Notre Dame.

Yes it was a joke. They're not all gold obviously.

 

[noeynox]

A big difference between the two, Edsall got rid of his OC after one year because he wasn't satisfied with his performance and replaced him with a recruiting juggernaut. P is sticking with his incompetent buddy and we will all find out where it will get him.

Except that clearly looked like the AD's call. Edsall did whatever he wanted here including being indignant toward the media. In his short time at UMD he has been humbled both by the media and by his boss/AD. He did a good job here, but the idea that he will make Maryland "Great" i find laughable. As a coach he has shown nothing to signify "greatness" as a coach. When I think of coaches who have done "Great Jobs", I think of Brian Kelly, Bill Snyder, Chip Kelly, Brian Peterson, I certainly don't think of Edsall, though he did do a "great job" with our transition.

 

[whaler11]

I really don't get this. UMD is having worse attendance issues than us. Maybe not in total numbers but definately in capacity filled. The amount of empty seats seen on TV at their games is staggering. Maybe he wins enough this year to stick around and benefit from the attendance bump from their move to the BiG, but every thing I read on their boards, their fans collectively hate him more than we hate P.

Yeah, the fans hate him - but I think the team turns the corner next year. They were 2 plays from 6-6 this year and that was with the third, fourth and LB quarterbacks.

If he gets to 7 next year with the players Lockley brings in it will settle down.

 

[Colt45]

Maryland fans have changed their view of him. Everything I have read on their boards this year have been positive and there is excitement for next year. With a guy like Stefon Diggs, who has the potential to be the best WR is the country before he leaves, how can you not be optimistic? Their recruiting class is bordering top 25 for the second straight year. They probably wont have to play a linebacker at QB next year. They have a lot more to look forward to than we do.

 

[whaler11]

Except that clearly looked like the AD's call. Edsall did whatever he wanted here including being indignant toward the media. In his short time at UMD he has been humbled both by the media and by his boss/AD. He did a good job here, but the idea that he will make Maryland "Great" i find laughable. As a coach he has shown nothing to signify "greatness" as a coach. When I think of coaches who have done "Great Jobs", I think of Brian Kelly, Bill Snyder, Chip Kelly, Brian Peterson, I certainly don't think of Edsall, though he did do a "great job" with our transition.

Yeah that wasn't his call. He's not Brian or Chip Kelly or Snyder or Peterson but neither are 100 other FBS coaches.

Until someone else can do a better job here than Edsall did - I think you have to respect what he did - because contrary to what people looking through blue lenses think this isn't an easy place to win.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Yeah, the fans hate him - but I think the team turns the corner next year. They were 2 plays from 6-6 this year and that was with the third, fourth and LB quarterbacks.

If he gets to 7 next year with the players Lockley brings in it will settle down.

No bowl and he's likely gone. I don't think they go into the B1G with him as coach after 3 losing seasons. Better win next year.

 

[noeynox]

Maybe its the eternal optomist in me for all things UConn, but I think with Whitmer having played a whole year at this level, we turn the corner if we have somone other than Deleone coordinating the offense and the blocking schemes.

I mean we were a few plays from having a better record ourselves. You are what your record says you are. We are 10-14, post Edsall and he is 6-18, at UMD.

 

[whaler11]

No bowl and he's likely gone. I don't think they go into the B1G with him as coach after 3 losing seasons. Better win next year.

No doubt. Don't know who they play but no bowl and he's done. At least we'll have a home game next year between two guys clawing to keep their jobs.

 

[noeynox]

Yeah that wasn't his call. He's not Brian or Chip Kelly or Snyder or Peterson but neither are 100 other FBS coaches.

Until someone else can do a better job here than Edsall did - I think you have to respect what he did - because contrary to what people looking through blue lenses think this isn't an easy place to win.

Like I said, I think he did a great job here with the transition. I also believe that if you gave P as much time here as people want to give Edsall at Maryland, he'd produce similar records to what Edsall did here. Now, I don't think that should be standard. We need to find the guy that pushes us toward having an occasional 10 win season and gets us ranked.

Its not easy to win here, like it wasn't in Manhattan Kansas before snyder, like it isn't Boise, like it isn't at Washington State (they won with Mike Price though). The key is the getting the right coach. That article today was on the money. You need the right coach, with the right vision and system. I don't believe P is that guy, but I don't think he is materially worse than Edsall.

 

[whaler11]

Like I said, I think he did a great job here with the transition. I also believe that if you gave P as much time here as people want to give Edsall at Maryland, he'd produce similar records to what Edsall did here. Now, I don't think that should be standard. We need to find the guy that pushes us toward having an occasional 10 win season and gets us ranked.

Its not easy to win here, like it wasn't in Manhattan Kansas before snyder, like it isn't Boise, like it isn't at Washington State (they won with Mike Price though). The key is the getting the right coach. That article today was on the money. You need the right coach, with the right vision and system. I don't believe P is that guy, but I don't think he is materially worse than Edsall.

Edsall took over an under 500 FCS team. P took over a team that won a BCS league. Clearly it can't be compared.

Edsall wasn't going to finish in the top 15 or take UConn to national previlance, but if you don't think PP is a downgrade after the last two season we don't need to bother to debate. Edsall's teams could bore paint off a wall but P can't beat 2-6 MAC teams.

 

[FBUCONN]

Would we be sitting home 2 years in a row instead of going to a Bowl if RE was still the HC?
I think not. Biggest difference between the two, the game hasn't passed RE by.

 

[noeynox]

Edsall took over an under 500 FCS team. P took over a team that won a BCS league. Clearly it can't be compared.

Edsall wasn't going to finish in the top 15 or take UConn to national previlance, but if you don't think PP is a downgrade after the last two season we don't need to bother to debate. Edsall's teams could bore paint off a wall but P can't beat 2-6 MAC teams.

You're just looking at what Edsall did here (which is all that matters since were UConn fans) but he took over a 9 win team at UMD amd has run it into the absolute ground., and be fair Edsall took over a team that had gone to the FCS playoffs shortly before he took over. He was left a pretty bare cupboard by Holtz but he was brought in for the build with which he did a fine job.

You continually discount the fact that the team coming off a BCS bid, had an unathletic walk on QB, as its best option at the position, and really no depth at running back as if its no big deal, then you cite UMD's injuries at the QB position as if its an excuse for what Edsall has had to over come.

I'm sorry Edsall is just a younger version of P. He won't wow you, and will never make you great. In his younger days you could argue P accomplished more at Cuse than Edsall ever will anywhere.

I'm not arguing that P has done a good job here. Clearly he hasn't, but I just can't fathom where anyone would think P has been such a downgrade given what has transpired at UMD. What Edsall had here was his baby. He had been recruiting players for his system here for 12 years, it makes sense that there has been a drop off since he left, though a better coach would have gotten us to a bowl this year.

 

[whaler11]

I guess we can catch up next December when Maryland is 7-5 and headed to a bowl and UConn is running a coaching search after going 3-9.

 

[noeynox]

Guess we can. I dont think he sniffs 7-5.