Walking Dead Season 5

[UConn Dan]

They are all going to regret not heeding Rick's advice. Unfortunately, Rick, Glen and Bob didn't have time to explain what the Terinus folks were really doing. They others may not really know. It will merely drive them to be even more cautious about trusting other people.

Blame Glen. He was at the troff about to be bled out next and he was the first to go against Rick and not want to finish them off.

 

[UConn Dan]

Just re watched the season 5 trailer.

Possible SPOILER:
"You don't have a choice. All of you. You join us, and (we) go to Washington and cure this thing." - Gareth

Hmmm... Looks like he is saying this in the woods. My guess is he approaches Abraham and co, but it's a rouse to eat them.

 

[meyers7]

Blame Glen. He was at the troff about to be bled out next and he was the first to go against Rick and not want to finish them off.

Yea, Glen wants to preserve their "humanity".

 

[meyers7]

Just re watched the season 5 trailer.

Possible SPOILER:
"You don't have a choice. All of you. You join us, and (we) go to Washington and cure this thing." - Gareth

Hmmm... Looks like he is saying this in the woods. My guess is he approaches Abraham and co, but it's a rouse to eat them.

When I saw that in the trailer, I was thinking that Gareth must get ahold of Judith and use her as a bargaining chip to make Rick do what he wants. Seems the only way Rick would agree to work with Gareth. ????

 

[UConn Dan]

When I saw that in the trailer, I was thinking that Gareth must get ahold of Judith and use her as a bargaining chip to make Rick do what he wants. Seems the only way Rick would agree to work with Gareth. ????

Quite possibly. Hopefully this awakes the sleeping giant in Tyrese and he gets medieval.

Still hope it's Rick that ends up killing Gareth with the red handle machete.

Is it Sunday at 9pm yet?

 

[meyers7]

Still hope it's Rick that ends up killing Gareth with the red handle machete.

Yea, that's what I'm hoping.

 

[meyers7]

Still hope it's Rick that ends up killing Gareth with the red handle machete.

Well there you go.

Man, they are going all in this season. 1st episode was off the wall, with people being bled out like animals, 2nd episode had cannibals eating their prey right in front of them, episode 3 has the slaughter in the church. Not sure where else they can go?

Lesson learned, don't eat our people.

 

[Dogdeacon]

Definitely admire the pace they are moving at and that is the most important part of maintaining an entertaining show. They also seem to be embracing a week to week cliffhanger type endings which is smart and good TV.

SPOILER ALERT - Last night I thought pushing that pace took away some drama and fear factor. Gareth picking folks off one-by-one could have worked for a couple episodes and I was curious to see what became of the tainted meat scene. That was the strongest fade to commercial - TAINTED MEAT TAINTED MEAT!!!

 

[Deepster]

I was in and out for a little bit with the game, they never let on whether or not eating the cooked, yet "tainted" meat would make you turn, right?

 

[meyers7]

I was in and out for a little bit with the game, they never let on whether or not eating the cooked, yet "tainted" meat would make you turn, right?

No. Gareth's only comment was that the meat was cooked, so it shouldn't be a problem. Don't know if that was from his "experience" or not? But the other people didn't seem to share his opinion. And they gave Bob back.

This does give a little sway to an opinion that I've read that since the "virus" (or whatever) is already in everyone, the virus is not passed from the walkers to the people (biting, scratching, etc.) But rather, because the walkers are decayed, unclean, they're bite is more like an infection that just kills the people, independent of the virus. Maybe sort of like rabies or something. Would explain why getting walker blood and guts all over you doesn't seem to matter, only when you get bit or scratched.

 

[Joobie]

Was anyone else a little disappointed by last night's episode? I was thinking that the Gareth/Rick THING would last for more than just a couple of episodes. So much more could have been done with that storyline. Then there's the whole tainted meat issue. I was wondering whether or not they would turn after eating leg of Bob. So, that storyline also died with Gareth & his cronies.

I was also disappointed by the fracturing of the group. Anyone else feel that way? I was all for it, until Glen & Maggie also left. I don't think Eugene has any knowledge at all about curing the virus, I am quite sure that Washington will be less of a utopia & more like the CDC, & the road there will be fraught with many perils. Thoughts?

 

[Dogdeacon]

Was anyone else a little disappointed by last night's episode? I was thinking that the Gareth/Rick THING would last for more than just a couple of episodes. So much more could have been done with that storyline. Then there's the whole tainted meat issue. I was wondering whether or not they would turn after eating leg of Bob. So, that storyline also died with Gareth & his cronies.

I was also disappointed by the fracturing of the group. Anyone else feel that way? I was all for it, until Glen & Maggie also left. I don't think Eugene has any knowledge at all about curing the virus, I am quite sure that Washington will be less of a utopia & more like the CDC, & the road there will be fraught with many perils. Thoughts?

Echo your sentiments, but I think given the shows stumbling past where they got stuck in storylines and locations forever they might simply be better at and better off doing everything in quick hits.

With respect to the tainted meat, I think Gareth's assertion; "it was cooked!" could theoretically have killed the 'virus' but it is definitely unknown. They also mentioned that they were supposed to inspect for bite marks.

The 'nasty infection from a bite' theory seems plausible, but remember they hacked off Old Man Herschel's leg in quite a hurry to theoretically prevent the disease from spreading. Gotta be equal risk of random infection there. So I think the concept is that the virus is dormant inside you and activated by death. BUT Zombie-goo = the activated virus and if this gets directly into your bloodstream it will kill & zombify you. Lastly, although conventionally cooking kills viruses and Gareth has a case, it needs to be battle-tested as killing a virus that makes the dead living may be impossible, i.e. the virus itself is a cellular zombie (and we've seen burning zombies eating folks as recently as two weeks ago).

 

[UConn Dan]

I'm happy with the pace of the show.

One thing that's bothered me is Maggie's lack of concern about trying to find Beth. Hasn't even mentioned her name since inside the terminus train car when Daryl mentioned that she was alive and taken by the cross car. Daryl did say, "she's just gone." So not sure if she's presumed dead.

Maggie had no problem leaving for Washington. Not sure what's up but I'm sure Beth is gonna be pissed off when she finds out.

 

[Dove]

Loved that scene where our guys go into the woods then out come the cannibals. Loved the massacre too.

So out with one enemy now make room for the cross car crew. They must have access to some serious gas reserves cuz they sure drive fast both times we saw them.

So, we see Darryl slink out of the woods. Who do you think was behind him? Way behind him.

 

[Walker11]

I can't believe anyone is complaining about that episode. I thought it was a top 5 episode in terms of giving the viewer what they wanted. The cannibals were butchered in an awesome way. The disappearance of Gareth's smirk post-tainted meat revelation was classic. The appearance of the red machete. Mischone getting back her kitana. Bob getting a classy death (maybe others weren't attached to him, I blame D Barksdale for my fondness). It all was awesome.

The guy who played Gareth did a phenomenal job and the character was absolutely detestable, so I do agree that they could have strung that plot out a tiny bit longer to make the payoff of killing him slightly better. That said, after seeing how drawn out certain plots were in season 2, this quick moving trajectory is 100% fine by me.

I saw this on another site and it made me laugh and was entirely true:

If this was like season 2

• daryl and Carol would be lost until episode 12.
  
  
• The hunters wouldn't start hunting until episode 5
  
  
• Bob wouldn't die for 10 episodes.
  
  
• they would be at that damn church for 11 seasons.
  

 

[meyers7]

I'm happy with the pace of the show.

One thing that's bothered me is Maggie's lack of concern about trying to find Beth. Hasn't even mentioned her name since inside the terminus train car when Daryl mentioned that she was alive and taken by the cross car. Daryl did say, "she's just gone." So not sure if she's presumed dead.

Maggie had no problem leaving for Washington. Not sure what's up but I'm sure Beth is gonna be pissed off when she finds out.

I do agree it's kinda weird she hasn't seemed to concerned with what happened to Beth. I guess it's just assumed Daryl told her (off screen) that Beth was "just gone". On the other hand, if something ever did go down, I'd be looking for my wife and not really thinking about what happened to my brother.

Or maybe she just doesn't want to deal with losing her. So "she just gone" works. She's not dead, eaten, or zombified, just "gone".

It will make for an unusual situation if Beth does come back and Maggie has gone off to DC. Maybe they are wanting that story arc???

 

[Dove]

I have seen every episode. Nothing made me cringe more than the anticipation and actual skull stab to Bob.


I can still hear it.

 

[UConn Dan]

I do agree it's kinda weird she hasn't seemed to concerned with what happened to Beth. I guess it's just assumed Daryl told her (off screen) that Beth was "just gone". On the other hand, if something ever did go down, I'd be looking for my wife and not really thinking about what happened to my brother.

Or maybe she just doesn't want to deal with losing her. So "she just gone" works. She's not dead, eaten, or zombified, just "gone".

It will make for an unusual situation if Beth does come back and Maggie has gone off to DC. Maybe they are wanting that story arc???

It's just bizarre. Didn't Hershel tell them to take care of each other when he dies (when he was putting himself imat risk with the superbug). Maybe it's just her way of coping to not talk about it and just assume she lost her. Maybe there is an arc there. We'll see.

Hopefully my newly crappy frontier comm cable doesn't f up this Sunday night (damn why you gotta leave us ATT) so I can see who comes out of the woods behind Daryl - but we will either need to wait until the very end of episide 4 or episode 5 to find out. Beth's story will be front and center.

 

[meyers7]

so I can see who comes out of the woods behind Daryl - but we will either need to wait until the very end of episide 4 or episode 5 to find out. Beth's story will be front and center.

Yea, doubt we'll get it right off the bat. I imagine we'll start with Beth's story line. Not sure if that will last more than an episode or not. And then we should get what Daryl and Carol did chasing that car, before he got back with "whomever". Could easily make 2 episodes out of that.

 

[Dogdeacon]

Yea, doubt we'll get it right off the bat. I imagine we'll start with Beth's story line. Not sure if that will last more than an episode or not. And then we should get what Daryl and Carol did chasing that car, before he got back with "whomever". Could easily make 2 episodes out of that.

You were on the money with that. Generally good episode & very effective mini-world villain build, but a bit too slow. That slowness allowed time to ponder the following in order of legit concerns to the annoyingly hyper-critical;
1. Why is everyone there blindly following the obviously manic, controlling chick? You can't bully that many people without someone just shooting her in the head while she sleeps.

2. So its a simple police state world within the hospital, the police always wear freshly laundered unis and they take daily outings to pickup supplies and find chicks for the male officers to duck-_. This is supposed to be a workable solution?!
Even if you are going for that, just keep only the truly desperate chicks that will agree to make the best of it, if they resist kill them quickly just like the Doc.

3. I think I might have bought it if the Rape Czar was a really tough guy (what makes a woman decide rape concubines will make men happy?!) and I admire then for mixing it up and giving us a pyscho woman villain, but the two trope-y slaps to Beth's face didn't exactly convince me of her ferocity.
4. Dumping the bodies down the elevator shaft didn't appear tidy at all . The early explanation was the zombies ate all but the bones. Instead we saw a huge pile of rotting corpses. No way to live without a stench 4-6 stories above that.

5. The high rise made we wonder how it works, generator, food source and water questions. I think it was a highrise only to provide the cool shot of ravaged downtown Hotlanta. I know it is silly to debate logistics, but given that they were mopping floors we could have used 30 seconds on how & why their resources were so good. PS where do they go to the bathroom.

Ending was awesome. Escape was great, Beth's emergence into a smart badass complete and once again they nailed it with a great cliffhanger. Setup C, Ending A

 

[meyers7]

You were on the money with that. Generally good episode & very effective mini-world villain build, but a bit too slow. That slowness allowed time to ponder the following in order of legit concerns to the annoyingly hyper-critical;

Agree kinda slow. Not a lot of killings, etc. Especially vs the first 3 episodes, but those were really good episodes.

1. Why is everyone there blindly following the obviously manic, controlling chick? You can't bully that many people without someone just shooting her in the head while she sleeps.

hmmm, a couple thoughts. The other cops seem to have it pretty good, so why upset the apple cart? And I think Dawn was like 2nd in command from the beginning, behind Hanson/Hansom?? The "wards" probably want to, but you'd have to kill all the cops at once, not just take out one. Which would be tough (but look for Carol to figure out something). The Dr. is happy to survive there.

2. So its a simple police state world within the hospital, the police always wear freshly laundered unis and they take daily outings to pickup supplies and find chicks for the male officers to duck-_. This is supposed to be a workable solution?!
Even if you are going for that, just keep only the truly desperate chicks that will agree to make the best of it, if they resist kill them quickly just like the Doc.

Works for the cops.

4. Dumping the bodies down the elevator shaft didn't appear tidy at all . The early explanation was the zombies ate all but the bones. Instead we saw a huge pile of rotting corpses. No way to live without a stench 4-6 stories above that.

Yea, I wondered about that too. Didn't seem like a working solution.

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5. The high rise made we wonder how it works, generator, food source and water questions. I think it was a highrise only to provide the cool shot of ravaged downtown Hotlanta. I know it is silly to debate logistics, but given that they were mopping floors we could have used 30 seconds on how & why their resources were so good. PS where do they go to the bathroom.

Ending was awesome. Escape was great, Beth's emergence into a smart badass complete and once again they nailed it with a great cliffhanger. Setup C, Ending A

Agree I think they wanted a look at a ravaged Atlanta. Beth hadn't seen Atlanta since it all began, supposedly. She'd been on the farm, small towns, prison and in the woods mostly. Yea not a lot on how it works.

 

[meyers7]

I wondered why the episode was titled "Slabtown".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slabtown_(Atlanta)

 

[Dogdeacon]

I just don't buy that there is a precinct of cops/people that want to survive the apocalypse as a passive aggressive* rape fest. If so at least get sexier hospital gowns and go full bore with them walking around like shabby chic VSecret models (ratings!).
Nonetheless, the table is set with Carol in there to trump the female leader and Rick to seek vengeance on tarnishing image of cops everywhere. And conveniently Rick's group needs a new doc and new black guy!

*Its not that its too dark, just too subtle. This could happen but they'd simply make the newly captured purely caged & chained mopping or sex slaves. Not walking around in hospital scrubs with access to meds, needles, lollipops** etc.

** the lollipop guild line was a good one. Disappointed Beth didn't reply "You aren't in Kansas anymore!"

 

[UConn Dan]

Glad we know what happened to Beth but I'm anxious to get back to the rest of the group. At least we are just about current on the timeline with Carol being rolled in - just need to find out how that went down.

I suppose Noah is the one in the woods with Daryl. And they're gonna craft a rescue mission with Rick and Michonne. But we won't see that until episode 6 since looks like next episode will be devoted to Abrahams group. I of course could be totally wrong.

How long are they gonna drag out the Dawn and company storyline? I hope that's not the major plot line for the first half of season but looks like it will be at least until end of episode 6 until resolved. Episodes 7 and 8 regrouping en route to Washington? What's gonna be the midseason cliff hanger? Washington a wasteland? Another nasty group?

 

[G0UCONN]

Never been a big fan of Beth. Not that there is anything wrong with her...just not much to her or to care about IMO. And worst episode of series history where she and Daryl burn down the cottage was unwatchable and Beth was particularly brutal in it.

That said, liked the episode and her in it. Great ending with Carol coming in at the end. Has been a great season so far.

 

[Dove]

What happened to the black dude in the hood who was following the group when they left Terminus? Did he see a squirrel and get off the trail?

 

[Dogdeacon]

What happened to the black dude in the hood who was following the group when they left Terminus? Did he see a squirrel and get off the trail?

I think he is a really talented & busy actor who is only going to be featured in one or two episodes per season.

 

[meyers7]

I suppose Noah is the one in the woods with Daryl. And they're gonna craft a rescue mission with Rick and Michonne. But we won't see that until episode 6 since looks like next episode will be devoted to Abrahams group. I of course could be totally wrong.

A couple possibilities (ideas) there. One, maybe Daryl and Carol catch up with the Cross car. Daryl captures one of the cops while they capture Carol. Prisoner exchange like in "Vatos". Or maybe they follow the Cross car to the hospital and run across Noah. He explains stuff. Maybe the plan was to get Carol inside (to protect Beth) while Daryl and Noah go back and get reinforcements.

They did say in some of the season interviews that they were going to return to some places they had been before. So the group going back to Atlanta seems like it's gonna happen. Eventually though, they gotta start heading out of state.

I know the women really like Daryl, but hanging out with him doesn't seem to be the best idea. He's lost two women who he was pretty close to.

 

[meyers7]

I think he is a really talented & busy actor who is only going to be featured in one or two episodes per season.

Yea, they said he'd be back this season, but probably not for very long. Not sure when or how he shows up. We don't really know the timing on when he saw Rick's edited Terminus sign. Right after the group was there (a day or two) or maybe a month later??

Lenny James has done quite a bit (Low Winter Sun, Jericho, plus movies) and seems to keep himself pretty busy.

 

[UConn Dan]

A couple possibilities (ideas) there. One, maybe Daryl and Carol catch up with the Cross car. Daryl captures one of the cops while they capture Carol. Prisoner exchange like in "Vatos". Or maybe they follow the Cross car to the hospital and run across Noah. He explains stuff. Maybe the plan was to get Carol inside (to protect Beth) while Daryl and Noah go back and get reinforcements.

They did say in some of the season interviews that they were going to return to some places they had been before. So the group going back to Atlanta seems like it's gonna happen. Eventually though, they gotta start heading out of state.

I know the women really like Daryl, but hanging out with him doesn't seem to be the best idea. He's lost two women who he was pretty close to.

Right. A possibility is that Carol is a Trojan horse to get Beth out. Little do they know the woman she has become. She has no tolerance for abuse. She's gonna f sheete up in there.