And Baylor would have had neither without Griner...plain and simple. Still doesn't explain why she didn't win the 2012 Nancy Lieberman Award. There is a reason some people gravitate to certain people (i.e. Twitter). HINT: It isn't cuz they carry a perpetual ' tude and "chip on their shoulder". Once again, maybe you and KMR should work harder on this with the person who did not win the award for the nations best PG!