USMNT Falling | Page 4 | The Boneyard

USMNT Falling

The Berhalter Train is rolling, folks. Unfortunately, it's going in reverse. If they don't fire this clown and the clowns that put him there, pretty soon we'll get spanked by St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

I really did love hearing Twellman go on yet another rant at the end of the game...
 
Long wasn't the problem.

This team can NOT string together three passes. They constantly give the ball away with no pressure, just turn it over. They lose way over 50% of, the poorly named, 50/50 balls.

They have no idea where they are going to pass when they receive the ball. And when they do pass thye are very inaccurate. There is no chemistry or cohesion.

When they try to apply pressure, Canada simply beat their pressure passing to open men. I freely admit I know nothing about soccer, I watch because my nephews like it and it give me something to talk about with them. But even I could see that one team knew what they were doing and the other had problems with basic skills.
 
Give the team to the 18-21 yr olds in euro academies.
Enough of Bradley getting his pocket picked for goals.
I hope the L will be the impetus
 
The Berhalter Train is rolling, folks. Unfortunately, it's going in reverse. If they don't fire this clown and the clowns that put him there, pretty soon we'll get spanked by St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

I really did love hearing Twellman go on yet another rant at the end of the game...

Twellman's rant was probably the highlight of the game to me. It was just disgusting.

While the Canadians got away with a few really nasty tackles that should have been Yellow, Laryea in particular, the US was just a mess from the start both in terms of effort and structure. No one stepped-up, even after going down 1-0 against a team that the US has not lost to for 30+ years. Yes, the Canada seems to be on the upswing; but, the US should win these games.

The player selection and structure of the team right from the start was a huge pile of steaming pile of X. Did Greg select the the starters in part to appease his MLS masters with Bradley (Toronto) and Lovitz (Montreal)? Canada has good speed in the attacking midfield with Davies and Osorio, which meant fast pressure against the US center. Bradley can't handle players with speed and either passes backwards into a black hole or gets dispossed. Roldan does not have a deft touch with his passes. Those two were overwhelmed from the start. Combine that collapse with McKennie's bad game and the US motor was dead on arrival. In turn, Sargent got pulled in deep to defend, which resulted in the loss of a key distribution outlet for the midfield and to keep the Canadian back from from joining in on the fun. At the same time, Pulisic was pulled away from the wing and in to the middle where he was often isolated and stripped while trying to take-on 3 or 4 red shirts at the same time. Greg's system relies on attacking fullbacks, yet Yeldin did very little going forward, likely because he is not 100% yet. That added to the mess in the middle as there was no wing play. Instead, Cannon, who has been playing well, should have started in Yeldin's place. Based on the roster, not sure who would have been a better choice than Lovitz. In the middle, I would have had Arriola (Twellman pointed to Lletget, which at least shows acknowledgement of the issue and an attempt to adapt), who has a better soft touch than Roldan, and Yueill, who showed the other night he can serve a good long ball (to break a fast press) to provide better options against what Canada was going to throw at the US. Oh, and if the US was still down, why the heck put in Gyasi "Face" Zardes in instead of a guy like Boyd?

It's been months now and its clear that Greg is underwater trying to make the USSF powers happy with questionable player selection and then jamming those players into his system, which really did not work well in Columbus either. It's also clear that the USMNT players are not buying it and benching Pulisic, even if he was having a bad game, looks to be more of a power play than a tactical adjustment. Even if USSF fired him, which they won't, that's only a part of the problem. USSF needs to be cleared-out.

At this stage, call it 50/50 is the US qualifies for the 2020 World Cup, which is abhorrent.
 
Twellman's rant was probably the highlight of the game to me. It was just disgusting.

While the Canadians got away with a few really nasty tackles that should have been Yellow, Laryea in particular, the US was just a mess from the start both in terms of effort and structure. No one stepped-up, even after going down 1-0 against a team that the US has not lost to for 30+ years. Yes, the Canada seems to be on the upswing; but, the US should win these games.

The player selection and structure of the team right from the start was a huge pile of steaming pile of X. Did Greg select the the starters in part to appease his MLS masters with Bradley (Toronto) and Lovitz (Montreal)? Canada has good speed in the attacking midfield with Davies and Osorio, which meant fast pressure against the US center. Bradley can't handle players with speed and either passes backwards into a black hole or gets dispossed. Roldan does not have a deft touch with his passes. Those two were overwhelmed from the start. Combine that collapse with McKennie's bad game and the US motor was dead on arrival. In turn, Sargent got pulled in deep to defend, which resulted in the loss of a key distribution outlet for the midfield and to keep the Canadian back from from joining in on the fun. At the same time, Pulisic was pulled away from the wing and in to the middle where he was often isolated and stripped while trying to take-on 3 or 4 red shirts at the same time. Greg's system relies on attacking fullbacks, yet Yeldin did very little going forward, likely because he is not 100% yet. That added to the mess in the middle as there was no wing play. Instead, Cannon, who has been playing well, should have started in Yeldin's place. Based on the roster, not sure who would have been a better choice than Lovitz. In the middle, I would have had Arriola (Twellman pointed to Lletget, which at least shows acknowledgement of the issue and an attempt to adapt), who has a better soft touch than Roldan, and Yueill, who showed the other night he can serve a good long ball (to break a fast press) to provide better options against what Canada was going to throw at the US. Oh, and if the US was still down, why the heck put in Gyasi "Face" Zardes in instead of a guy like Boyd?

It's been months now and its clear that Greg is underwater trying to make the USSF powers happy with questionable player selection and then jamming those players into his system, which really did not work well in Columbus either. It's also clear that the USMNT players are not buying it and benching Pulisic, even if he was having a bad game, looks to be more of a power play than a tactical adjustment. Even if USSF fired him, which they won't, that's only a part of the problem. USSF needs to be cleared-out.

At this stage, call it 50/50 is the US qualifies for the 2020 World Cup, which is abhorrent.

The USSF has it backwards.

They think that force-feeding under-talented MLS players into the USMNT will make MLS popular and profitable.

In reality, a competitive and successful USMNT -- wherever the players' clubs are -- will amplify interest in soccer in the US, which will in turn drive interest in MLS and ultimately improve that product.
 
.-.
Why on earth was Pulisic subbed out at 60 min? There's a video of him pissed off and yelling at GB on the sideline after the sub.
 
Why on earth was Pulisic subbed out at 60 min? There's a video of him pissed off and yelling at GB on the sideline after the sub.

It's been reported that Pulisic had the flu. I call that Bullsheet. Greg replaced him with Arriola, who is also a play maker; but, not at the level that Pulisic is, even on a bad day, though Arriola is more of a central midfield guy than a wing. Thus, it was a 1 for 1 sub versus a tactical sub and felt more like a power play by Greg. Otherwise, why pull-off the team's best play maker when the team needed a goal?

Down by a goal, and playing like trash, Greg had to adapt and did not. I would have made three subs. First, pull Yeldin, who was not 100%, and repalce him with Cannon who would have orders to be very aggressive in moving forward and provide support to Pulisic on the wing. Second, McKennie had a bad game and I would have pulled him in favor of Boyd who I would have then sent out to the right wing to allow Morris to push up and provide another option on top with Sargent. Third, I would sit Bradley, which would never happen because the game was in Toronto and MLS has to have its money, because he was entirely ineffective against Canada's speed press. I would have replaced him with either Arriola or Yueill to provide better service out fo the Midfield while dropping Roldan deeper to help cover with Cannon pressing-up. That's putting more speed on the field to counter what Canada was doing and additional scorer on top when the team is down by a goal. It's call a tactical adjustment, which Greg has no concept of.

I have a feeling he'll be ill again the next time the USMNT under Greg gives him a call to play. I would not blame him
 
To me, Aaron Long and Lovitz are just the poster boys for kind sub par player that is being forced on this team.

The back line was not good. They took FOREVER to move the ball from left to right.

And wth is Michael Bradley doing back there. He’s made 3-4 coaches look bad as the #6. Why do we keep doing this?

He was starting play back there and we basically kept a back three when we should have been sending more numbers forward and taking a more direct route.

This program is a joke.
 
To me, Aaron Long and Lovitz are just the poster boys for kind sub par player that is being forced on this team.

The back line was not good. They took FOREVER to move the ball from left to right.

And wth is Michael Bradley doing back there. He’s made 3-4 coaches look bad as the #6. Why do we keep doing this?

He was starting play back there and we basically kept a back three when we should have been sending more numbers forward and taking a more direct route.

This program is a joke.

Given the article you posted just before, does any of this really matter? Even good players have trouble executing a system they haven't used together over the course of years. Add to that: US players don't quite have the skill level as some of these other teams who do this, to make up for that unfamiliarity.
 
.-.
The only player that EVER takes a player on 1v1 is Pulisic, and he does it too much even. Cannon and Yedlin have all the pace in the world but never try to get to the endline to cut it back. McKennie will be good but for a CM his passing is horrendous. The fans wanted a coach with European coaching background and we get a guy who picks favorites from the MLS. Roldan might be okay for the Sounders, but he is the worst midfielder i’ve seen in a USA jersey for as long as I can remember. Players like Mendez, Ledezma, Jesus Ferreira, Cappis and Richards need to be in camps from now on.
 
Given the article you posted just before, does any of this really matter? Even good players have trouble executing a system they haven't used together over the course of years. Add to that: US players don't quite have the skill level as some of these other teams who do this, to make up for that unfamiliarity.

The system Berhalter is using might be good for a club team. But it’s too complicated for any national team.

Dudes are literally studying and doing homework to learn the system. It’s like an NFL playbook.

There was no discernible difference in talent level last night. The difference was in coaching.
 
Dudes are literally studying and doing homework to learn the system. It’s like an NFL playbook.

That's preposterous.

There was no discernible difference in talent level last night. The difference was in coaching.

I wasn't saying that difference in talent is why they're losing. They're more talented than Canada.

I was making the point that, unlike some of those Euro teams, they don't have much of that top end talent that can make up for the failings of a flawed system. Some countries playing a flawed system could still win some games against good comp, because they've got a higher level of player on average, and at the high end.
 
The system Berhalter is using might be good for a club team. But it’s too complicated for any national team.

Dudes are literally studying and doing homework to learn the system. It’s like an NFL playbook.

There was no discernible difference in talent level last night. The difference was in coaching.


Besides being complicated, his "system" relies on skills that we just don't have. It's as if it is specifically built to play to our weaknesses.
 
That's preposterous.



I wasn't saying that difference in talent is why they're losing. They're more talented than Canada.

I was making the point that, unlike some of those Euro teams, they don't have much of that top end talent that can make up for the failings of a flawed system. Some countries playing a flawed system could still win some games against good comp, because they've got a higher level of player on average, and at the high end.

I wasn’t disagreeing in any way. I actually think Canada was pretty talented. But they were totally ready for us.
 
.-.
SERGIÑO DEST COMMITS TO USMNT

finally - some positive news for the MNT


Holy fudge. Nothing on ESPN yet; but, if this is true, its a critical catch for the US. USSF needs to cap him ASAP before he gets a chance to change his mind. Maybe Pulisic and him had a bet and by nutmeging him in that Champions game, Dest had to cap with the USMNT? LOL. Now, if as part of this agreement, Ajax gets Berhalter, no never mind, I have too much respect for that club to make that big of a mistake.
 
SERGIÑO DEST COMMITS TO USMNT

finally - some positive news for the MNT

The positive is the growing pool of young players -- Pulisic, Sargent, McKennie, Adams, Dest, Weah -- that could form a solid core for the next 8 years assuming they all can maintain their health. Now they just need a coach who isn't bound and determined to make things as complicated as possible.
 
Last edited:
Now, if as part of this agreement, Ajax gets Berhalter, no never mind, I have too much respect for that club to make that big of a mistake.

He can coach their under 7s.
 
The positive is the growing pool of young players -- Pulisic, Sargent, McKennie, Adams, Dest, Weah -- that could form solid core for the next 8 years assuming they all can maintain their health. Now they just need a coach who isn't bound and determined to make things as complicated as possible.

But, more importantly can they sells more MLS kits and generate more MLS expansion fees because that's what USSF seems to be focused on right now...Head bang
 
.-.
What about Arsene Wenger for the USMNT? He could do something with these guys I bet.
 
What about Arsene Wenger for the USMNT? He could do something with these guys I bet.

In his waning days at Arsenal, one of the issues he had was the inability to adjust strategies and in-game tactics based on the roster. Instead, he tried to force what worked in the past each new new roster. Not ideal for a national team coach who can help create an identity; but, has to adjust often based on who is available at any given time.
 
In his waning days at Arsenal, one of the issues he had was the inability to adjust strategies and in-game tactics based on the roster.
All of a sudden the guy forgot how to coach in his waning days? Baloney. His waning days are still more successful than the guy he got sacked for.
 
I want someone in the Lampard/Klopp and even Marsch mold. Young, energetic, and uses the players based on what they can do instead of forcing people to play in an unfamiliar system.

Marsch isn’t coming near the NT btw. He’s got a pretty big future if he keeps it up.
 
.-.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,482
Messages
4,577,525
Members
10,487
Latest member
husky62


Top Bottom