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cellocgg said:
USF attendance against perennial power #25 BSU one year removed from the playoffs, also home opener and playing in the massive Tampa Bay metro: 34,707

UConn home opener attendance against a nobody FCS school in a college football deadzone: 37,594, largest of the G5
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It depends on if USF reported attendance or distributed tickets. Then it's apples to apples. Ours was tickets distributed and not attendance.

Our stadium seats 38,000.
 
cellocgg said:
USF attendance against perennial power #25 BSU one year removed from the playoffs, also home opener and playing in the massive Tampa Bay metro: 34,707

UConn home opener attendance against some FCS school: 37,594, largest of the G5
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Likely not apples to apples.

As if those numbers would make a difference.
 
cellocgg said:
USF attendance against perennial power #25 BSU one year removed from the playoffs, also home opener and playing in the massive Tampa Bay metro: 34,707

UConn home opener attendance against some FCS school: 37,594, largest of the G5
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Game was viewed by 2 million...that's the figure the networks tally. The Bulls new stadium will be configured for 35,000 seats.
 
cellocgg said:
UConn home opener attendance against a nobody FCS school in a college football deadzone: 37,594, largest of the G5
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I was at the game. Any interest in a bridge I have for sale?
 
billybud said:
Game was viewed by 2 million...that's the figure the networks tally. The Bulls new stadium will be configured for 35,000 seats.
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35k is small for the P4. Rent is still bigger and even it is kind of small by P4 standards
 
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cellocgg said:
35k is small for the P4. Rent is still bigger and even it is kind of small by P4 standards
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It is small but there will be options for future expansion. Plus it has the other amenities that Rentschler would never have, like academic space and other luxuries. Northwestern's new stadium is also 35,000 and I doubt there is room for expansion, but it is a different kinds of stadium at over $850 million.

"The plan presented today by USF leadership includes a project cost of $348.5 million, which has been revised from what was approved by the board in June 2023. Since that time USF has added to the project’s scope, including design and structural upgrades for potential future stadium expansion beyond the current expected seating capacity of approximately 35,000, build-out of academic space in the facility, vertical expansion of the Tampa General Hospital Center for Athletic Excellence, and enhanced locker room amenities, in addition to the general cost of goods increasing over the past two years. The funds added to the project will come from interest earnings on the $200 million in financing previously issued by the USF Financing Corp."
 
as a side note I thought this was interesting. Northwestern added a bunch of temporary bleachers to their soccer stadium to host most home games during construction. They will also play home games at wrigley. nice to have the money to fund these projects

nusports.com

Northwestern Medicine Field at Martin Stadium - Facilities - Northwestern Athletics

Northwestern Medicine Field at Martin Stadium. The official facility page for the Northwestern Wildcats
nusports.com nusports.com
 
The non P2 penalty....Ranked USF plays #5 Miami with a shot at beating three ranked teams in a row...

Two ranked Florida teams on Saturday.

BUT...they will play on the CW at 4:30...I don't expect great viewing ratings.
 
Kolumbo said:
It is small but there will be options for future expansion. Plus it has the other amenities that Rentschler would never have, like academic space and other luxuries. Northwestern's new stadium is also 35,000 and I doubt there is room for expansion, but it is a different kinds of stadium at over $850 million.

"The plan presented today by USF leadership includes a project cost of $348.5 million, which has been revised from what was approved by the board in June 2023. Since that time USF has added to the project’s scope, including design and structural upgrades for potential future stadium expansion beyond the current expected seating capacity of approximately 35,000, build-out of academic space in the facility, vertical expansion of the Tampa General Hospital Center for Athletic Excellence, and enhanced locker room amenities, in addition to the general cost of goods increasing over the past two years. The funds added to the project will come from interest earnings on the $200 million in financing previously issued by the USF Financing Corp."
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USF has a student population of like 50k. It's a massive school. Northwestern is like less than half its size

cellocgg said:
USF attendance against perennial power #25 BSU one year removed from the playoffs, also home opener and playing in the massive Tampa Bay metro: 34,707

UConn home opener attendance against some FCS school: 37,594, largest of the G5
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Now makes this look even worse in retrospect lol
 
cellocgg said:
USF attendance against perennial power #25 BSU one year removed from the playoffs, also home opener and playing in the massive Tampa Bay metro: 34,707

UConn home opener attendance against a nobody FCS school in a college football deadzone: 37,594, largest of the G5
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And USF played at Raymond James which has a capacity of around 75K.

I saw one schedule where UConn will play USF away in 2028. Is that still valid?
 
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I wouldn’t be too bothered by USF’s Success. I don’t see any scenario where The Big 12 grabs them over UConn or anyone else before they see what shakes out with the ACC. My feeling is that UConn and USF will be conference mates once more in a retooled 2030 version of The ACC.
 
cellocgg said:
Reminder that UConn tops the G5 in revenue, the metric that actually matters in CR, and the next closest is like $25M short

Winning a game in Gainesville isn't getting USF into a conference. They've had great seasons before. Y'all sound silly
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Absolutely meaningless.

You’re clueless.
 
Ldandy said:
I wouldn’t be too bothered by USF’s Success. I don’t see any scenario where The Big 12 grabs them over UConn or anyone else before they see what shakes out with the ACC. My feeling is that UConn and USF will be conference mates once more in a retooled 2030 version of The ACC.
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True, something will probably happen with the ACC to kickstart realignment, but once that happens, USF is sitting pretty. I'd love to be in the ACC with USF but I could see the Big XII taking USF too. The UCF-USF combo could be a major rivalry attraction. I look at it this way. Say you are a USF fan instead of a UConn fan. You have to be extremely optimistic right now for USF given the recent events and in no way consider UConn a threat. USF just beat 2 top 25 teams in a row! UConn flopped at a shatty cuse team. USF is making huge strides. UConn is almost beating ACC dung.

cellocgg said:
USF has a student population of like 50k. It's a massive school. Northwestern is like less than half its size
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USF is a huge school and I don't know what the numbers are but I think the enrollment on the Tampa campus is much smaller than 50k. I guess it is over 40k. Northwestern enrollment is 22k, is in Chicago, has a $14 Billion endowment, and is already in the Big Ten. Northwestern's stadium is a completely different type of stadium than The Rent which will never have upgrades close to what other on campus stadiums are getting. Comparatively speaking, 35k is probably fine to start. Still, I would think the stadium would be much bigger given the size of the Tampa population. Tampa does have 3 pro teams however so USF is probably in a similar situation as Pitt.
 
Kolumbo said:
Other fan bases mock UConn for the situation and it adds to the perception that UConn isn't committed to football 100%. You can't compare UConn to UCLA and Miami. UConn is in no situation to be an exception to the rule. Sure it would be different if UConn were already in the club.

I've thought about this. UConn could try something to support its unorthodox approach to facilities. A marketing approach.

"UConn is a Big Time University. Connecticut is the 29th ranked state by population and the 48th state by land
Connecticut is UConn's campus" 😉
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Our stadium is fine. Whether it's on campus or not doesn't matter a bit in terms of conference affiliations.
 
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USF may have a big issue getting into B12 - think back to when UCF was pleading to get into the BE and USF played the BC card. There was (still is?) animosity between the 2.

And enrollment has never been an issue. FWIW, Southern New Hampshire dwarfs USF. And these directional schools have tons of students who’ve got no direction and take a course or 2 a year.
 
Kolumbo said:
USF has been solidly ahead of UConn for a while now and will be in a P4 conference before UConn. It's not even close. Lesson #1:

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They played at Rsymond James. Didn't have to build two stadiums.
 
BC's average attendance last season was more than Cal's....and Cincinnati, GT, Kansas, Maryland, Houston, Memphis, Stanford, Syracuse....go figure !
 
Duncan Idaho said:
They played at Rsymond James. Didn't have to build two stadiums.
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Apparently the folks in Florida believe differently than those in Idaho. They are building it because that's what football schools do.
 
They're off to a great start but this is USF's record the last 5 years:

2024: 7-6
2023: 7-6
2022: 1-11
2021: 2-10
2020: 1-8

And keep in mind they typically play LESS P4 schools than we do (typically 2 a year).
 
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Zerostatic said:
They're off to a great start but this is USF's record the last 5 years:

2024: 7-6
2023: 7-6
2022: 1-11
2021: 2-10
2020: 1-8

And keep in mind they typically play LESS P4 schools than we do (typically 2 a year).
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That was the point of my post. Beating Florida was awesome, but if they lose to Rice and Navy.
 
huskymedic said:


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He's been with the Tampa Bay Sports Commission for 21 years and is only 44 so he knows how to run pro sports. "CEO of Athletics." Plus the dude is in multiple HOFs

"Higgins is a graduate of the University of South Florida, where he was inducted into their School of Advertising’s Hall of Fame in 2015"

"Higgins has an impressive list of personal accolades, including the following honors in 2025 alone:
  • 2025 Tampa Sports Club Hall of Fame Inductee
  • 2025 Tampa Bay Lightning Hall of Fame John Cullen Courage Award
  • 2025 USF Distinguished Community Citizen
  • 2025 Heart of a Champion Citizen of the Year
  • 2025 Tampa Bay Business Journal Power 100 (fifth straight year)
www.tampabaysports.org

Executive Director

Executive Director
www.tampabaysports.org www.tampabaysports.org
 
huskymedic said:
FY24 is the last year reported - they are in FY25 currently:

-> UConn released the financial data on Wednesday. The school reported $105,579,698 in revenue and $100,969,851 in expenses for fiscal year 2024, when it continued to operate at levels required to compete nationally across the board despite living outside the lucrative world of power conferences. <-

Here some insight on USF growth:

-> USF’s athletic spending ballooned to $95.4 million in 2024, according to financial records.<-
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David Benedict says that UConn has the highest budget outside of the P4:

 
Fishy said:
If expansion ever gets rolling again….they’re gonna be an issue for us.
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Been told the top G5 candidates in general are UConn, USF, UNLV and Memphis. I realize UNLV sounds like a total stretch, but keep in mind NV is a state that continues to grow and all schools/fan bases would love a trip to Las Vegas. UNLV will need the right vision/leadership to step into this opportunity.

Fast forward 15 years and I could see JMU entering the chat. SDST has facility and the academics, but not sure about leadership/desire.
 
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