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My point was they won't be a priority to conferences that already have camp setup in Florida. CR is about expanding footprint and reaching new markets. Plus, their Floridian contemporaries will rally against them.
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USF won't be a priority to the B1G or SEC when they take teams from Florida. The ACC and Big12 will have holes to fill in Florida and USF is near the top of the ACC and Big 12's list for expansion.
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USF must have some wealthy donors that are paying to have that new stadium built. UConn needs a major donor to step up to build an on campus stadium and build new roads from 84 to campus.
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I want to be wrong, but 15 years of watching CR pass us up time and again made me think they don't want to expand to our area otherwise they would have already done so. The all cretins crew have the fruit and BCU, they don't need another northeast state that's in between. And the Big12, they are digging into their southwest mentality despite having Cinci, West Virginia, and UCF...they might not mind getting a northeast presence to get NY views, but as the last 2 years of CR showed, they DON'T want to expand with us. If/when I am wrong I will happily admit it.
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We really have to ask ourselves what is the end game. Most here agree that the ACC will be raided in the next few years. Do we really think the next iteration of that conference will be worth 20-30 million per school? It would essentially be AAC 2.0/Old Big East merger. I can't even get myself worked up over it anymore. CR takes all of the fun out of college sports. All for what? So the P2 get more money.
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I'm tired of all the CR debates about markets and footprints. Florida is more than 6 times larger than CT by population if state borders are so important. A P4 conference should have more than 1 member in Florida. Cal, Tex, Flo.
Here's an interesting take. # of programs by conference in the 3 most populous states Cal, Flo, Tex:
5 - American
5 - Big XII
5 - ACC
3 - SEC
2 - Big Ten
From what I've read, it's all USF funds and includes other campus improvements
USF plays in an NFL stadium just down the street but is still building its own stadium on its crowded campus
UConn plays in a shell college stadium 30 minutes away from campus but can't find a way to build a stadium on a campus with no shortage of land
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Here’s how USF says it is funding its stadium
A multi-million dollar loan, student fees and untraceable donations. Those are just three of the seven ways USF says it will be funding its estimated $340-million stadium project, which broke ground earlier this month. The stadium is slated to be completed in 2027. Here’s a breakdown on those...
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USF approves $407 million price tag for stadium, related infrastructure
The USF Board of Trustees approved a $407 million expenditure for USF’s 35,000-seat on-campus stadium and other associated projects during a Tuesday meeting. The stadium will cost $348.5 million. It’s a slight jump from the previous price of $340 million the board approved in June 2023. The...
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I think once the P2 pick their final teams for their respective conferences that UConn will have a good shot to be one of the teams that will backfill. Plus there is a good chance that Louisville and Pitt go to the B12 when UNC, Clemson, FSU, virginia(???) go to the B1G 10 and SEC. The ACC may need quite a few teams. UConn will be one of the teams in the running for a spot in the ACC.
I still don't understand why the on-canpus stadium is apparently so important for CR. There are other P4s without one. Would ours still be a problem if we were selling out? We were at one point and nobody was complaining about it. We just had record attendance since 2013, I don't see why we couldn't have regular sellouts in a few years
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So they have the land for the stadium. Now they just need to start fund raising. The project at UConn will probable exceed 1 billion, once you include the costs of designing, permitting, and constructing the roads from 84 to campus. UConn needs to start fund raising and saving.
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from your articleHere’s how USF says it is funding its stadium
A multi-million dollar loan, student fees and untraceable donations. Those are just three of the seven ways USF says it will be funding its estimated $340-million stadium project, which broke ground earlier this month. The stadium is slated to be completed in 2027. Here’s a breakdown on those...USF approves $407 million price tag for stadium, related infrastructure
The USF Board of Trustees approved a $407 million expenditure for USF’s 35,000-seat on-campus stadium and other associated projects during a Tuesday meeting. The stadium will cost $348.5 million. It’s a slight jump from the previous price of $340 million the board approved in June 2023. The...
"At the time of publishing, USF has raised over $45 million of the $50 million goal, according to a university spokesperson."
"The largest donation thus far has come from Tampa General Hospital, who donated $25 million last September.
this is from the same site. I don't really care too much but they don't say how much is donations"
from your same site:
USF approves $407 million price tag for stadium, related infrastructure
The USF Board of Trustees approved a $407 million expenditure for USF’s 35,000-seat on-campus stadium and other associated projects during a Tuesday meeting. The stadium will cost $348.5 million. It’s a slight jump from the previous price of $340 million the board approved in June 2023. The...
www.usforacle.com
"The USF Board of Trustees approved a $407 million expenditure for USF’s 35,000-seat on-campus stadium and other associated projects during a Tuesday meeting."
"The stadium will cost $348.5 million. It’s a slight jump from the previous price of $340 million the board approved in June 2023. The motion passed unanimously with little discussion."
"USF has secured $358.1 million in funding for the stadium, including the $200 million loan issued by the USF Financing Corporation in September 2023. The university is accounting for $17 million in interest generated from the loan."
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from your article
"At the time of publishing, USF has raised over $45 million of the $50 million goal, according to a university spokesperson."
"The largest donation thus far has come from Tampa General Hospital, who donated $25 million last September.
this is from the same site. I don't really care too much but they don't say how much is donations"
from your same site:
USF approves $407 million price tag for stadium, related infrastructure
The USF Board of Trustees approved a $407 million expenditure for USF’s 35,000-seat on-campus stadium and other associated projects during a Tuesday meeting. The stadium will cost $348.5 million. It’s a slight jump from the previous price of $340 million the board approved in June 2023. The...
"The USF Board of Trustees approved a $407 million expenditure for USF’s 35,000-seat on-campus stadium and other associated projects during a Tuesday meeting."
"The stadium will cost $348.5 million. It’s a slight jump from the previous price of $340 million the board approved in June 2023. The motion passed unanimously with little discussion."
"USF has secured $358.1 million in funding for the stadium, including the $200 million loan issued by the USF Financing Corporation in September 2023. The university is accounting for $17 million in interest generated from the loan."
For those who are curious what "USF Financing Corporation" is and does................
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UConn should just build a dorm and a building or two a Rentschler Field, make it part of the Hartford Campus. Then the could say that they have an on campus stadium. It would a whole lot cheaper then building a new stadium in Storrs.
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Other fan bases mock UConn for the situation and it adds to the perception that UConn isn't committed to football 100%. You can't compare UConn to UCLA and Miami. UConn is in no situation to be an exception to the rule. Sure it would be different if UConn were already in the club.
I've thought about this. UConn could try something to support its unorthodox approach to facilities. A marketing approach.
"UConn is a Big Time University. Connecticut is the 29th ranked state by population and the 48th state by land
Connecticut is UConn's campus" 😉
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It won’t be an issue because we likely aren’t being considered anyways.
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If it mattered we would be in a P4 right now.
The next time you are right about something will also be the first time.
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The USF numbers are outdated as they have considerably increased athletics spending for 2024 and 2025. They know that the time is now as conference realignment will heat up in a few years and they want a better landing spot. That said, USF men's basketball has never finished a season ranked which is a big negative.
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FY24 is the last year reported - they are in FY25 currently:
-> UConn released the financial data on Wednesday. The school reported $105,579,698 in revenue and $100,969,851 in expenses for fiscal year 2024, when it continued to operate at levels required to compete nationally across the board despite living outside the lucrative world of power conferences. <-
Here some insight on USF growth:
-> USF’s athletic spending ballooned to $95.4 million in 2024, according to financial records.<-
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It's one game, congrats to USF, but honestly, let the season play out and they probably lose to Navy.
If the ACC back fills with USF that's not a conference anyone is going to be excited about.
The ACC soon might have a lot of holes to fill and we'll probably be one of those teams along with Memphis, but USF is not getting into the 10, 12 or SEC.
I don't get why everyone is making this out to be something huge, last year Memphis beat Florida State in a down year, nobody was knocking on their door.
The college football landscape is going to look very different. No one really knows what will happen.
If the ACC back fills with USF that's not a conference anyone is going to be excited about.
The ACC soon might have a lot of holes to fill and we'll probably be one of those teams along with Memphis, but USF is not getting into the 10, 12 or SEC.
I don't get why everyone is making this out to be something huge, last year Memphis beat Florida State in a down year, nobody was knocking on their door.
The college football landscape is going to look very different. No one really knows what will happen.
USF was ranked #2 in national poll in week 6 of 2007 under Leavitt. They are not a Johnny come lately. They have been in and around a breakthrough for awhile. UCF hurdled them to get inside track for P4/5/6 membership into the B12.
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This is a very bizarre post
If UConn beat the likes of a Florida, we would be over the top ecstatic! We would hold a damn parade! We would absolutely lose our freaking minds!!!
If the ACC gets to the point where it backfills with UConn, we will be excited but it won't be a conference anyone else is going to be excited about. USF is not a worse addition than UConn and if/when UConn gets invited to the ACC, it is going to be a glorified American Conference. We will be excited because it will include other cast-offs cuse, bcu, wake.....
I could see USF being invited to the Big XII. In fact, I think the Big XII is asleep at the switch for not already inviting USF. When the dust settles, the Big XII and USF will be fine.
Memphis is another program who is likely ahead of UConn for an invitation. Memphis is in the SEC footprint and investing in football.
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We beat Notre Dame in South Bend. Big programs losing to smaller ones happens every once in a while, but it doesn't typically propel the smaller program as much as is embarrasses the bigger program.
In 07, Michigan got beat by Appalachian State, what ever happened to them?
I get that it's a big deal, it really is, but in the grand scheme of college football the lines have already been drawn.
Let USF enjoy their victory, they earned it, but let's also be real, it's good publicity for them, they can beat their chests, I don't think it's going to open many doors unless they go undefeated this year, go to a major bowl and beat another big conference team. Like I said, they might lose to Navy. We'll see.
