USC and UCLA to the BIG Ten

[traitor71]

It may just be hype....but it feels like Cristobal has brought them back. His recruiting has been amazing. Similar to Mora here, Cristobal is making a difference.

Once they dumped their AD, who was the last remnant of the Shalala era, they got real serious. They started spending money, brought in a big time coaching staff, and an AD who knows how to get things done. They are "all in" in a way I'm not sure they ever have been.

 

[Bongo Fury]

If that many dominoes fall, it'll be the ACC in name only. UConn is and would be better off staying in the new Big East.

I don’t see how the B1G would consider UCONN. With the changes in recruiting and transfer portal, MSG doesn’t matter as much for b-ball. The ACC likely brings more money and former rivals.

 

[Hondo 77]

Do you know how many people live per square mile in the Pacific Northwest? Salmon don’t watch the BTN, Lol, and Rutgers brings zero to the table, Maryland is the B1G’s version of West Virginia (just ask FHCRE), and State College is closer to Youngstown Ohio than it is to Philadelphia, much less Madison Square Garden. Your argument is incredibly weak. All I’m saying is if Mora succeeds, anything can happen.

The facts are that adding Rutgers brought a lot of money to the table. A lot.

 

[huskymedic]

Your argument is incredibly weak.

Just to be clear - you are doubling down that UConn will be worth an additional $100M in revenue to the B1G if we are in the conference??

 

[CONN78SEJ]

We are not worth $100 million per year. Washington and Oregon aren't even worth that.

Of course not, not now as an independent, but in the B1G I think we would approach that if Mora gets the football team rolling.

 

[shizzle787]

Of course not, not now as an independent, but in the B1G I think we would approach that if Mora gets the football team rolling.

The majority of the schools in the B1G aren’t worth that now.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

The facts are that adding Rutgers brought a lot of money to the table. A lot.

Yeah, like 5 or more years ago, now they bring negative numbers. Lol

 

[CONN78SEJ]

The majority of the schools in the B1G aren’t worth that now.

Oh ok, so it’s not $100 million? Only $50 million? $25 million? $10 million? Anybody know? Lol

 

[d1reality]

This whole parade has been like a kid collecting baseball cards…he wants big names even if they are far past their prime. The SEC took Texas and Oklahoma. Texas has been an afterthought in college football for at least a decade. They haven’t even been in The top 3 teams in Texas for that long. UCLA? Gary Beban isn’t walking through that door any time soon. USC has probably been relevant nationally once or twice but not much more In the past 20 years. They ranked 5th once but When they’ve been ranked it’s mostly in the 20s.

Texas an afterthought. Yeah they were 5-7 last year, but had won 4 straight bowl games from 2017-2020, and beat #5 Georgia in a bowl in 2018. So much of an afterthought that some guy named Manning just turned down offers from every school in the country to play there

 

[RSTuthill]

Do you know how many people live per square mile in the Pacific Northwest? Salmon don’t watch the BTN, Lol, and Rutgers brings zero to the table, Maryland is the B1G’s version of West Virginia (just ask FHCRE), and State College is closer to Youngstown Ohio than it is to Philadelphia, much less Madison Square Garden. Your argument is incredibly weak. All I’m saying is if Mora succeeds, anything can happen.

That is what we said about HCRE2.0. But even if it turns out far better for UConn this time than last, the timing is all wrong. It will take Mora awhile to work some magic. By then the earthquake will have happened and the musical chairs game will be over..

 

[mikedog10]

Who’s gonna be our Phil Knight?

Marc D’Amelio! Phil Knight is a legend, but he is an icon from the past. The D’Amelios are modern day innovators, they represent the future. Or at least that’s what I’m telling myself

 

[Chin Diesel]

The NIL is big for Miami. They are paying the QB from Glastonbury over 1 million per year

NIL is what the University booster's and businesses are willing to pay players. That is a separate valuation from what a university brings to a conference.

 

[TheDrifter75]

Oh ok, so it’s not $100 million? Only $50 million? $25 million? $10 million? Anybody know? Lol

Sure, 50 million moves the needle for the Big10, problem is, it's in the wrong direction. Those other numbers are non starters. Don't you think if UConn would bring in 50 plus mil for the Big10 that they'd be in at least some analyst projections as a possible add. I'm not digging for info, but I haven't seen one projection where UConn is in the mix for a back fill ACC spot let alone an invite to the Big10.

 

[jostar1]

I'm not digging for info, but I haven't seen one projection where UConn is in the mix for a back fill ACC spot let alone an invite to the Big10.

I've noticed that. UConn seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

 

[superjohn]

Sure, 50 million moves the needle for the Big10, problem is, it's in the wrong direction. Those other numbers are non starters. Don't you think if UConn would bring in 50 plus mil for the Big10 that they'd be in at least some analyst projections as a possible add. I'm not digging for info, but I haven't seen one projection where UConn is in the mix for a back fill ACC spot let alone an invite to the Big10.

UConn has had arguably the worst football program in the country so that's understandable but do you really think these "analysts" know what the hell they're talking about?

 

[Sportsman5]

Oh ok, so it’s not $100 million? Only $50 million? $25 million? $10 million? Anybody know? Lol

There are a lot of factors, but only a small number that actually matter. Probably the most important is the number of households that will be forced to add the BIG 10 network to their cable package as a result of a team being added. This will be less important moving forward as cable fades and be replaced with the number of people who actually voluntarily choose to pay for it. So large populated states add more value than less populous states under the "cable box" calculation. It also matters how many primetime games the school can generate with football making by far the most TV money. This number is not an exact science, so we are relying on people to estimate our value. "What have you done lately" will influence these numbers a lot, but brands built over decades are obviously very good as well. There are other factors, but these two are going to massively influence things.
If Oregon is worth $60 mil (as reported) based on athletic performance and number of households in the state, then UConn is probably worth $40-50 mil. However, if UConn gives up some home games to play neutral site games in New York and Boston, then that adds some additional value in exposure to these areas and excitement for alumni to travel there etc. Small things like this could boost our case for some conferences.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I can't get a single poster on this board to tell me what they want to happen to UConn and why they want it to happen. Has this become a Notre Dame board?

 

[shizzle787]

I can't get a single poster on this board to tell me what they want to happen to UConn and why they want it to happen. Has this become a Notre Dame board?

Realistically, one of four things in this order:
1. Sneak in the ACC if they have multiple defections.
2. Convince Syracuse, Pitt, and BC to join the BE and go independent if the ACC is damaged beyond repair.
3. Add Gonzaga to the Big East.
4. Status quo.

 

[uconnric]

Sure, 50 million moves the needle for the Big10, problem is, it's in the wrong direction. Those other numbers are non starters. Don't you think if UConn would bring in 50 plus mil for the Big10 that they'd be in at least some analyst projections as a possible add. I'm not digging for info, but I haven't seen one projection where UConn is in the mix for a back fill ACC spot let alone an invite to the Big10.

Maybe because the ACC hasn’t dissolved. Yet.

 

[RSTuthill]

I can't get a single poster on this board to tell me what they want to happen to UConn and why they want it to happen. Has this become a Notre Dame board?

No likely. But after so many disappointments regarding restructuring, UConn fans have become realists. They realize the UConn has to have a football program to sell. At the moment there is no product that UConn can offer that anyone might buy except in sports that do not matter.

 

[superjohn]

No likely. But after so many disappointments regarding restructuring, UConn fans have become realists. They realize the UConn has to have a football program to sell. At the moment there is no product that UConn can offer that anyone might buy except in sports that do not matter.

What I don't get is how men's basketball doesn't matter?

I get that football drives the bus but people didn't all of a sudden stop watching and caring about men's college basketball. There's 33 regular season games, conference tournaments, and the NCAA tournament. College football is 12 regular season games, a 4 team playoff, and bowl games.

 

[jostar1]

What I don't get is how men's basketball doesn't matter?

I get that football drives the bus but people didn't all of a sudden stop watching and caring about men's college basketball. There's 33 regular season games, conference tournaments, and the NCAA tournament. College football is 12 regular season games, a 4 team playoff, and bowl games.

From what I'm reading, exception seems to be made for Kansas, but not for UConn.

 

[RSTuthill]

What I don't get is how men's basketball doesn't matter?

I get that football drives the bus but people didn't all of a sudden stop watching and caring about men's college basketball. There's 33 regular season games, conference tournaments, and the NCAA tournament. College football is 12 regular season games, a 4 team playoff, and bowl games.

Yup, I don't get it either. And the point about Kansas is also a good one. But I have also observed what everyone else has observed. It may simply be a culture thing and that CFB is a red state sport. Of course, that theory doesn't explain a few things either

 

[CONN78SEJ]

What I don't get is how men's basketball doesn't matter?

I get that football drives the bus but people didn't all of a sudden stop watching and caring about men's college basketball. There's 33 regular season games, conference tournaments, and the NCAA tournament. College football is 12 regular season games, a 4 team playoff, and bowl games.

Forget basketball, Kansas fans must wondering the same thing invite wise, and they’re near the top of the rankings every week, UConn mens basketball is not even close.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

There are a lot of factors, but only a small number that actually matter. Probably the most important is the number of households that will be forced to add the BIG 10 network to their cable package as a result of a team being added. This will be less important moving forward as cable fades and be replaced with the number of people who actually voluntarily choose to pay for it. So large populated states add more value than less populous states under the "cable box" calculation. It also matters how many primetime games the school can generate with football making by far the most TV money. This number is not an exact science, so we are relying on people to estimate our value. "What have you done lately" will influence these numbers a lot, but brands built over decades are obviously very good as well. There are other factors, but these two are going to massively influence things.
If Oregon is worth $60 mil (as reported) based on athletic performance and number of households in the state, then UConn is probably worth $40-50 mil. However, if UConn gives up some home games to play neutral site games in New York and Boston, then that adds some additional value in exposure to these areas and excitement for alumni to travel there etc. Small things like this could boost our case for some conferences.

I think UConn is worth a lot more than $40-$50 mil if you include all the potential forced cable box households in RI, southern and western Mass, eastern NY, parts of New Jersey and PA. Just overlay UConn’s recruiting area in the northeast. Borders out west are very distinct, in the Northeast not so much.

 

[jostar1]

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What I don't get is how men's basketball doesn't matter?

I get that football drives the bus but people didn't all of a sudden stop watching and caring about men's college basketball. There's 33 regular season games, conference tournaments, and the NCAA tournament. College football is 12 regular season games, a 4 team playoff, and bowl games.

Another one...Duke.

 

[drayenob]

Our football program isn't just bad it's a national laughingstock. There is no way we are getting invited to anywhere right now.

Root for the ACC GOR holding that conference together for a few years while Mora can hopefully turn things around.

In the meantime everyone should be buying football tickets.

 

[freescooter]

What I don't get is how men's basketball doesn't matter?

I get that football drives the bus but people didn't all of a sudden stop watching and caring about men's college basketball. There's 33 regular season games, conference tournaments, and the NCAA tournament. College football is 12 regular season games, a 4 team playoff, and bowl games.

It matters but only at the margins. Notre Dame get $+-10 million from the ACC. Full members get +-$4o million. And that includes some payment for football. New Big East members get $5.5 million for basketball, as the supposed 6th power conference. The reality is that basketball has a value in the $5-7 million range. Why? In part football is just more popular. But also you put your finger on the problem. Too many games and too many teams. Play 33 games and most are pretty meaningless. UConn loses to Butler on. a Tuesday in January and nobody probably notices outside the two school fanbases. UConn beats Michigan in football and it is THE top story of the weekend. Play 12 games and each one matters. You almost need to go undefeated to get into the fbs playoff. Power conference members can go to the ncaa tournament by finishing 6th. Regular season is meaningless. I can turn on a game virtually any time, day or night in season and find someone playing someone. The NCAA tournament is a different entity entirely. It is probably worth more in itself than the whole college basketball regular season.

 

[Nostical]

Timing is everything. Imagine if ACC expansion had occurred in 2009. We were going to Bowl games in 2007, 2008, 2009 (and The Fiesta Bowl in 2010. Meanwhile, Louisville was inept under Steve Kragthorpe, going to zero Bowl Games during that same period.
Bad timing may now affect Duke in the chatter about whether they merit another conference landing spot, especially if Coach K's replacement, Jon Scheyer, turns out to be "Steve Kragthorpe".

So let's see what happens with our chances at a better landing spot. Hiring Jim Mora and fielding an improved, motivated football team that reignites fan interest will go a long way in how we're perceived. Yes we have a short window, but we also have a real chance at turning the program around. The proof will come this fall, and while (for sure) there are lots of doubters, I remain an optimist. I'll be in Logan Utah to watch us outperform expectations on Aug 27th. Go Huskies!

 

[noeynox]

Timing is everything. Imagine if ACC expansion had occurred in 2009. We were going to Bowl games in 2007, 2008, 2009 (and The Fiesta Bowl in 2010. Meanwhile, Louisville was inept under Steve Kragthorpe, going to zero Bowl Games during that same period.
Bad timing may now affect Duke in the chatter about whether they merit another conference landing spot, especially if Coach K's replacement, Jon Scheyer, turns out to be "Steve Kragthorpe".

So let's see what happens with our chances at a better landing spot. Hiring Jim Mora and fielding an improved, motivated football team that reignites fan interest will go a long way in how we're perceived. Yes we have a short window, but we also have a real chance at turning the program around. The proof will come this fall, and while (for sure) there are lots of doubters, I remain an optimist. I'll be in Logan Utah to watch us outperform expectations on Aug 27th. Go Huskies!

Let us hope they bring the right cleats.