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Rico444 said:
Forget the seeding talk for a minute; if we play like this in March, we're going to the Sweet 16. I like our odds from there.
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I'm super high but I know I giggled about it. Who deleted the first response to this thread? Something like "Lets print the t-shirts now".

Identify yourself. Why would you delete such a perfect response to @Rico444 's post?
 
formerlurker said:
I'm super high but I know I giggled about it. Who deleted the first response to this thread? Something like "Lets print the t-shirts now".

Identify yourself. Why would you delete such a perfect response to @Rico444 's post?
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it was me, felt like bad mojo

I'm not superstitious but I am a little stitous
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
I'd expect us to be up to #8 in NET also. Leaving us out of the top 4 seed line, out of Albany, or even out of NYC would be ludicrous.
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Just based on geography and the other teams in the picture, if we get a top-4 seed (so, protected), we're virtually guaranteed Albany.

Unfortunately unless we get up to maybe the top 3 (number 9 in the S-curve, so we'd have first region pick on that seed line), we're unlikely to get MSG due to bracket principles and the glutton of Big 12 teams in the top-16 picture that will have to be spaced out.
 
ToolzieFan said:
There might be some fair criticisms about Hurley’s performance in close games over the years, along with a KenPom luck factor so low it might not be luck, but we’d better give him credit for his team absolutely pounding multiple quality opponents this season. I didn’t anticipate blowout wins over so many tournament teams this year. He’s doing something right.
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Thank You. We absolutely hammer teams. A lousy couch doesn't do that on the regular to decent teams. We are not winning in spite of him. That narrative is so lazy and even seems to have an odd agenda. So weird. He is helping us when we have nights like this. He deserves credit for the blowouts in our favor if he gets the blame for the close losses. He's not close to perfect but he is ours and the dudes kind of a fighter. Ok to criticize him. He makes mistakes for sure. In no way a heavyweight yet. With that said, tonight was an event. Fun night. Things are better. Not JC better but better. Yeah, let's throw that away for what's behind door #3. Hard Pass.
 
UCfor3 said:
We absolutely hammer teams. A lousy coach doesn't do that on the regular to decent teams. We are not winning in spite of him. That narrative is so lazy and even seems to have an odd agenda.
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Yup.

College teams have ups and downs, and almost no game will be flawless basketball (particularly in this era of parity). But when we are “on,” we are arguably the best team in the nation (and that’s not an accident that Hurley fell into). We have shown that repeatedly now, and we have also shown now that the January slump was just that. The only remaining question is whether we’ll be “on” when it counts - which would always be a question even if we had only 2-3 losses right now.

In my opinion Hurley’s biggest failure this season was allowing an emotional letdown against St Johns after our brutal 4 game stretch.

Also missing the Seton Hall game was just awful timing. Say whatever you want about our coaching, having your head and assistant coaches present for a road game against a tough defensive team is worth at least the 1 point we lost by.

Those two losses changed the perception of the entire season. But they didn’t actually change the reality. Which is exactly why the computer rankings don’t match up with that perception.
 
homunculus said:
Yup.

College teams have ups and downs, and almost no game will be flawless basketball (particularly in this era of parity). But when we are “on,” we are arguably the best team in the nation (and that’s not an accident that Hurley fell into). We have shown that repeatedly now, and we have also shown now that the January slump was just that. The only remaining question is whether we’ll be “on” when it counts - which would always be a question even if we had only 2-3 losses right now.

In my opinion Hurley’s biggest failure this season was allowing an emotional letdown against St Johns after our brutal 4 game stretch.

Also missing the Seton Hall game was just awful timing. Say whatever you want about our coaching, having your head and assistant coaches present for a road game against a tough defensive team is worth at least the 1 point we lost by.

Those two losses changed the perception of the entire season. But they didn’t actually change the reality. Which is exactly why the computer rankings don’t match up with that perception.
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Well said.

Some of the comments here are absolutely delusional. Love the enthusiasm, but seriously ...
 
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homunculus said:
Yup.

College teams have ups and downs, and almost no game will be flawless basketball (particularly in this era of parity). But when we are “on,” we are arguably the best team in the nation (and that’s not an accident that Hurley fell into). We have shown that repeatedly now, and we have also shown now that the January slump was just that. The only remaining question is whether we’ll be “on” when it counts - which would always be a question even if we had only 2-3 losses right now.

In my opinion Hurley’s biggest failure this season was allowing an emotional letdown against St Johns after our brutal 4 game stretch.

Also missing the Seton Hall game was just awful timing. Say whatever you want about our coaching, having your head and assistant coaches present for a road game against a tough defensive team is worth at least the 1 point we lost by.

Those two losses changed the perception of the entire season. But they didn’t actually change the reality. Which is exactly why the computer rankings don’t match up with that perception.
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Great post. Spot on.
 
BFieldHusky said:
UPDATE: 2/23/2023

7 NET (moved up 2 spots last night, which is hard to do this time of year)
5 KenPom
5 BPI (also moved up to 2 spots)
7 Sagarin
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Yet somehow the committee is playing selective favorites with the metrics and eye test only when it comes to one school, and that's UConn. We should be on the 3 seed line right now, with a real shot at a 2.
 
WINNING takes care of everything

If we win out, including the BET, we're a three at the very worst. The whole country has multiple losses, and I'm pretty sure everyone has a bad loss or two as well. Win out, we soar
 
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aburks41 said:
Yet somehow the committee is playing selective favorites with the metrics and eye test only when it comes to one school, and that's UConn. We should be on the 3 seed line right now, with a real shot at a 2.
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On paper UConn just avenged a loss to a team that was lower ranked, at home. There's still work to do to make up for the stretch of losses.

Beating St. John's needs to happen.
 
temery said:
On paper UConn just avenged a loss to a team that was lower ranked, at home. There's still work to do to make up for the stretch of losses.

Beating St. John's needs to happen.
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Look at the resumes of the teams in front of us though. Iowa State, Indiana, Gonzaga, etc. We have better wins than all of them. We have stronger metrics, and it's not particularly close. If we win out, I think we're winning the BET. At that point, there will be zero argument against having this team on the 2 seed line.
 
aburks41 said:
Look at the resumes of the teams in front of us though. Iowa State, Indiana, Gonzaga, etc. We have better wins than all of them. We have stronger metrics, and it's not particularly close. If we win out, I think we're winning the BET. At that point, there will be zero argument against having this team on the 2 seed line.
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Yes, if UConn wins its last 3 regular season games and wins the BET, it will be a 2 seed.
 
aburks41 said:
Look at the resumes of the teams in front of us though. Iowa State, Indiana, Gonzaga, etc. We have better wins than all of them. We have stronger metrics, and it's not particularly close. If we win out, I think we're winning the BET. At that point, there will be zero argument against having this team on the 2 seed line.
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Indiana is no longer ahead of us, not sure about the other teams.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Yes, if UConn wins its last 3 regular season games and wins the BET, it will be a 2 seed.
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The crazy thing is if we win out and win the BET our metrics are going to say we should be a 1 seed which you could definitely make the case for. In past years the committee has stressed the “entire body of work”, we were the best team in the country for half the season even though we started out unranked. I’ve said this before but I personally think the top 5 of the BE is equal to if not better than the top 5 of the Big 12. It happens every year where there’s a conference throned the best in January when conference play starts and once they’re considered the best there’s no way to prove they aren’t until March Madness. I fully expect to see more BE teams in the sweet 16 than Big 12 teams even though the Big 12 may have 3-4 more teams in the tourney and many with higher seeds.
 
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aburks41 said:
Look at the resumes of the teams in front of us though. Iowa State, Indiana, Gonzaga, etc. We have better wins than all of them. We have stronger metrics, and it's not particularly close. If we win out, I think we're winning the BET. At that point, there will be zero argument against having this team on the 2 seed line.
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Is Iowa St really still ahead of us? Not questioning, genuinely asking. They got crushed twice recently and we hammered them head to head on a neutral court.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
I'd expect us to be up to #8 in NET also. Leaving us out of the top 4 seed line, out of Albany, or even out of NYC would be ludicrous.
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We win out or even get to big east final we are deff a 3. Prolly even a 2. With the way these teams ahead of us are this year, I cud see anything from us being a 10 seed to a (if every single thing breaks right, maybe maybe a 1) I mean , Virginia just lost to bc. We cud be cracking top 10 by the time conference tourneys start Then reel off 3 straight against ranked teams in big east tourney/ plus our NET cud get us a 2. Everything up in air now
 
UCfor3 said:
Is Iowa St really still ahead of us? Not questioning, genuinely asking. They got crushed twice recently and we hammered them head to head on a neutral court.
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Still, probably not. But as of Saturday the committee had them as a 3 seed and UConn as a 5 seed. Now we have 2 solid to great wins since then and they've lost 2 games, so it might have changed
 
UCfor3 said:
Is Iowa St really still ahead of us? Not questioning, genuinely asking. They got crushed twice recently and we hammered them head to head on a neutral cour
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They were a 3 seed in the first reveal. They shouldn't be ahead anymore
 
BFieldHusky said:
Just behind Purdue for #4.
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Four in KenPom? So, basically we should be a one seed in the tournament.
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