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MilfordHusky

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1) Duke WCBB fans have suffered more heartbreak than any other WCBB program in history. Therefore Duke deserves to win the National Title more then any program in the country.
I (almost) sympathize. You guys had really good chances when UConn and Tennessee had down years. In 2006, you couldn't close out Maryland. Ask UConn fans about beating the same team 3-4 times in one season. A year or so later, Harding missed from the foul line. Great chances, but no title. I think Duke was the best team both years. It is REALLY hard to win the title--see UConn in 2011, 2008, 2001, etc.
 

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In defense of the dunk - male players have guys that are 6-9, 6-10 or even 7-0 defending them. If they don't go up strong with the ball and dunk it, they're going to get blocked. Watch a UConn mens' game. Andre Drummond, the fabulous man-child, will just throw the ball down and no one can defend it. He's not showing off, he's just taking a high percentage shot. Meanwhile, Alex Oriakhi will toss up the kind of layup you see in the women's game. Andre's FG% is 57.1% while Alex's is 46.8%.
 
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Kiah will start ahead of Stef next year and be part of the most dominent and atheletic front line since Cash, Williams, Jones.
I disagree! Next years starting lineup will be: Bria, KML, Stewart , Stokes, and Dolson. A powerful, flexible lineup with 5 scorers and rebounding!
 

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I disagree! Next years starting lineup will be: Bria, KML, Stewart , Stokes, and Dolson. A powerful, flexible lineup with 5 scorers and rebounding!
Disagree. No way Geno will sit Caroline for a freshman.
 

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I think Doty, Bria, KML, Kelly and Kiah/Dolson. I bet Kiah takes Stef's spot. Maybe not, but that is my unpopular opinion.
 

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Or he keeps Stef in and brings Banks, Stewart, Tuck, Stokes and Jefferson off the bench. WOW. That is basically two starting lineups that could be Top-10.

Yes, I realize this is OT. Sorry to hijack the thread!
 
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Disagree. No way Geno will sit Caroline for a freshman.
Well if Breanna is as good as advertised, them.... Or is this just sentimentality! I say you play to win with your best players!
 
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mutt, you have not been around for some time. Where were you? In High school?

Ha! My high school days coincided with the Rebecca Lobo era at UConn. I went back to college later in life. I read the women's and men's boards often but don't usually get riled up enough to post until conference play rolls around. My UConn fandom comes from growing up in CT. I go to school in Big Ten country.

No one responded to this bold assertion by triaddukefan: Tara Vanderveer will not win another title at Stanford.

Hmm...how soon do you think she'll retire? Four consecutive , the promise of more high seeds to come due to lack of competition within the conference, Chiney in Palo Alto for two more years, traditional powers looking vulnerable. Why do you think she has no chance to win #3?
 
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I think Doty, Bria, KML, Kelly and Kiah/Dolson. I bet Kiah takes Stef's spot. Maybe not, but that is my unpopular opinion.
I still remember watching DT shoot Huskies out of game with Irish in 2001. If Geno sits her down Irish don't win championship. Huskies were going to the line at will that game. And please don't tell me Geno knew DT was going to become what she is today at that point in time.
 

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I don't think Tara will win another championship. Last year I thought was her best chance to win it, especially against ND. The PAC 10 schedule really holds them back, I think. They don't challenge themselves in the later part of the season.
 

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FWIW I expect to see them up close on Saturday, when they (Stanford) visit U of A. 5th row, toward center court, but close enough to the visitor bench to get a good look-see. Tonight, I will see Cal up close, much less exciting prospect.

I "suspect" Tara will not win a final 4 because of the lack of challenge in the Pac12, but I also recognize both the "on any given day" and "things can change" realities.
 
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That's the spirit!

To MilfordHusky's point, Beard already had a more talented cast with Currie and Tillis and did not get to the final game, so I agree that she is out of the discussion. At the time, I recall that the argument against Powell being the NPOY was that her stats were "inflated" due to playing in a weak conference. It's hard not to be influenced by post-college success in judging Powell vs. DT and think that those arguing against Powell were right.

The problem of putting Maya on the '03 and '04 teams is that Maya does everything BT does better than BT - thereby making our second-best player of those years irrelevant. And Maya is not a primary ballhandler to help Maria with the PG duties. As good as she is, she doesn't complement the roster we had.

Lindsay could (can) score, lead, make others better, and inspire confidence. If she had 20+ PPG seasons at Minnesota, it's reasonable to think she could at least come close to DT's averages of 17.9 PPG and 16.2 PPG in '03 and '04, respectively. (Two things surprised me looking at their stats from those years: Dee had more assists in '03, and Lindsay shot a respectable 40 percent from three in '04...on 100 attempts. I think Geno's coaching would have improved that weakness in Lindsay's game earlier in her career.) Duke was the best team on paper in '04, and Lindsay (with a lesser cast than DT) beat them in the NCAAs. But Lindsay changes the complexion of the team because she and Maria in the backcourt together are too slow. :) My argument here hinges on the belief that a lineup of Whalen, Strother, Battle, Turner, and Moore--coached by Geno--could still beat the runner-up, Tennessee. I think's it's reasonable. It's not "Who has the most intangibles?" or "Who is the better player?" but "Could someone else do it?"

Powell has had a very successful pro career, better than her college yrs.
 
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I still remember watching DT shoot Huskies out of game with Irish in 2001. If Geno sits her down Irish don't win championship. Huskies were going to the line at will that game. And please don't tell me Geno knew DT was going to become what she is today at that point in time.

Geno tells it a little differently. According to him, DT was the only Uconn player who wasn't afraid to shoot.
 

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So maybe I carried my metaphor a little too far, thinking there are no gang . . . uh, dunks.

Besides, ghostmutt has me all confused. Now I'm considering the image of posting up. Offensive player backing in, defensive player bumping up behind, and . . . Ooo! Ahh!

But the women do that too, and they can't actually . . .

Well, just leave me alone for a while. I'll get this sorted out.

So I prefer not to watch pornography.

You sure seem to know a lot about it. (with all these metaphors and all). :rolleyes:
 

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Well if Breanna is as good as advertised, them.... Or is this just sentimentality! I say you play to win with your best players!
Playing with and starting are two separate things.
 

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OOOH! You gonna get some NASTY replies on this unmanly essay! You prolly don't like NASCAR or extreme combat, either, not to mention roller-ball or the Republican primary. You prefer the "please pass me another crumpet, if you would be so kind" type of sports, where the players ignore the guiding principles of free-enterprise by actually allowing their teammates to participate and even excel at the expense of diminishing their own statistics; where they even observe the antiquated, sissy, if not Marxist rules of "fair play and good sportsmanship" (which all knowledgable and thinking people know that St. Vincent of Lombardi totally discredited these many years ago). In short, sir, you seem to be a week-kneed, -footing, limp-wristed, weak-spirited, low-testosterone, molly-coddling, lace-hanky, bloodless, left-leaning milquetoast, totally lacking in manly attitudes. The fact is, sir, you seem to have forgotten that "winning is not everything, it is the only thing". How would our noble cave-man ancestors have survived, sir, had they not been willing and able to kick their fellow-scavengers away from the mammoth carcass? I ask you. You would prolly be best advised to stick to bean-bag, and make sure that the beans are cooked soft!

Permit a couple comments, distantly related to the OP and a bit of a follow-up to the masterpiece quoted above .

First, people often say they enjoy wcbb because the players "play the game the way basketball is meant to be played. Ha-Rumph!"

Seems to me that the way this game is meant to be played is with peach baskets nailed to walls at each end of the gym with a guy on a ladder by each to retrieve balls tossed in. (I like the current version better than Dr. Naismith's creation.)

Second, a couple of quotes from athletes I admire:
  • Bill Russell: "Basketball is a contact sport. Football is a collision sport."
  • Jack Lambert: "Football is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, don't play."
Back to you, Zorro.
 

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In short, sir, you seem to be a week-kneed, -footing, limp-wristed, weak-spirited, low-testosterone, molly-coddling, lace-hanky, bloodless, left-leaning milquetoast, totally lacking in manly attitudes.
I deny the weak-kneed part.
 
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WCBB would sufffer irreparable damage if HuskyBill was 6'2"
There is nothing remotely reasonable about the vocalizations of MilfordHusky.
Kim Mulkey has never dived into a Salvation Army dropoff dumpster.
The only reason Dick Vitale doesn't do WCBB games is because of death threats.

Discuss.
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You sound like an erstwhile teacher who has a part-time job creating essay questions for standardized tests. :p
 
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  • Of the super sophs, both Hartley and Gray will be considered "better" PGs than Sims at the end of four years, and one of them will be drafted before Sims.
Nah.

End of my end of the discussion.:)
 

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Well if Breanna is as good as advertised, them.... Or is this just sentimentality! I say you play to win with your best players!
Magic, you clearly do not understand Geno and how he treats his players and has built credibility with them over the last 25+ years. Loyalty, trustworthiness and faithfulness are high on his list of integrity. Just like KML starting the season coming off the bench and learning by watching experienced players so will Breanna. She will get plenty of minutes but will not automatically jump into the starting line up following a path of numerous AAs before her. It is not sentimentality it is about building character.
 

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Magic, you clearly do not understand Geno and how he treats his players and has built credibility with them over the last 25+ years. Loyalty, trustworthiness and faithfulness are high on his list of integrity. Just like KML starting the season coming off the bench and learning by watching experienced players so will Breanna. She will get plenty of minutes but will not automatically jump into the starting line up following a path of numerous AAs before her. It is not sentimentality it is about building character.
Also, he loves having the team get better with bench players. It's a great strategy. The starting five will obviously be better than just about any other team, and with the players he's bringing off the bench, I would argue that they get better with substitutions. I can't think of a single other team that will be able to say that.
 
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