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Centerstream said:
I bolded the teams I was posting about.
Ga Tech 95 ND 90
Wash 64 Mich 52
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? Difficult to interpret. The clear implication of your post was that “None of these 4 (losing) teams were undefeated prior to yesterday.”
 
Michigan doesn't look good. Seen 'em play 4 times now. They pressed very little against Oregon and only at the end yesterday. Why? They are very average in the half court. Even looks like Swords can't get her own shot. What's coach doing? They gotta run to be special.
I blame Geno a tad regarding UConn's 4th Q collapse against them. I think he did the 'ole, "let them figure it out strategy". We know Azzi is clutch at least. (did we already know that?)
Same with Louisville. Remember that little collapse? They just ran out of time. Could ND go off on us like these two teams did?
Will a Michigan crash hurt UConn's ranking? Maybe UConn flourishes as a 2 seed.
 
oldude said:
? Difficult to interpret. The clear implication of your post was that “None of these 4 (losing) teams were undefeated prior to yesterday.”
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I apologize, I thought the bolded four teams designated which teams I was asking about. You added (losing). So, IMO, that was the clear implication.
I am going to delete the post.
 
visitingcock said:
Dawn has never scheduled easy and has frequently played a schedule as tough, or tougher, than Geno.

To me, skim is cheating her own fanbase by not scheduling better opponents in the conference preseason
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Cupcake season used to be SOP for a handful of coaches, with Kim being the poster child. Aside from Geno, Dawn, Vic and a few others, cupcake season has permeated college basketball throughout the P4 conferences, for a number of reasons:
FanSince17 said:
Michigan doesn't look good. Seen 'em play 4 times now. They pressed very little against Oregon and only at the end yesterday. Why? They are very average in the half court. Even looks like Swords can't get her own shot. What's coach doing? They gotta run to be special.
I blame Geno a tad regarding UConn's 4th Q collapse against them. I think he did the 'ole, "let them figure it out strategy". We know Azzi is clutch at least. (did we already know that?)
Same with Louisville. Remember that little collapse? They just ran out of time. Could ND go off on us like these two teams did?
Will a Michigan crash hurt UConn's ranking? Maybe UConn flourishes as a 2 seed.
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Swords and Olson were on fire vs UConn. Last night they shot a combined 11/35. MI lives and dies by their 3-pt shooting. Last night it killed them.
 
oldude said:
Cupcake season used to be SOP for a handful of coaches, with Kim being the poster child. Aside from Geno, Dawn, Vic and a few others, cupcake season has permeated college basketball throughout the P4 conferences, for a number of reasons:

Swords and Olson were on fire vs UConn. Last night they shot a combined 11/35. MI lives and dies by their 3-pt shooting. Last night it killed them.
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They were able to exploit that aspect because they sped us up with their up-tempo. Teams are not standing around making 3’s on UConn (until the 4th Q “turkey time”. I was there. It got hectic and Swords started hoisting up shots that went in. I also watched the MI-ND game which was wild.
Missing and making shots is a symptom. Weren’t you a shooter? I practiced my shooting 3 hours a day, not counting practice. You ever play “around the world” just from 3. These kids can make those shots if they are not forced out of their rhythm. My point was about the tempo that MI has proven they are capable of imposing on their foes. My question is why their coach is playing half court. They suck at it. Oldude is never so superficial. Tempo is the heart-beat, bloodstream of a team.
 
FanSince17 said:
Michigan doesn't look good. Seen 'em play 4 times now. They pressed very little against Oregon and only at the end yesterday. Why? They are very average in the half court. Even looks like Swords can't get her own shot. What's coach doing? They gotta run to be special.
I blame Geno a tad regarding UConn's 4th Q collapse against them. I think he did the 'ole, "let them figure it out strategy". We know Azzi is clutch at least. (did we already know that?)
Same with Louisville. Remember that little collapse? They just ran out of time. Could ND go off on us like these two teams did?
Will a Michigan crash hurt UConn's ranking? Maybe UConn flourishes as a 2 seed.
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If UConn's games with ND or Tennessee are close. we can forget about them winning the NC this season. Michigan would not have looked good against UConn if UConn had hit just half of their open shots. Michigan's defense did not stop UConn. For some reason, sometimes UConn has struggled in the third quarter against even weak teams. Almost every game in which UConn has scored 25 or more points in the first quarter, they seem to just coast the rest of the game.
 
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donalddoowop said:
If UConn's games with ND or Tennessee are close. we can forget about them winning the NC this season.
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Well, I wouldn't go quite that far. Basketball can be a funny sport sometimes. After all, multiple games last year were more than just close (lost), but we managed to improve enough to win in the end.

And the flipside is true too: UConn can win against or blow out every single team and still get shocked by something like Mississippi State in 2017's Final Four.

Sometimes it's just down to who wants it more, I guess.
 
donalddoowop said:
If UConn's games with ND or Tennessee are close. we can forget about them winning the NC this season. Michigan would not have looked good against UConn if UConn had hit just half of their open shots. Michigan's defense did not stop UConn. For some reason, sometimes UConn has struggled in the third quarter against even weak teams. Almost every game in which UConn has scored 25 or more points in the first quarter, they seem to just coast the rest of the game.
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DDW, you’re not a “doom & gloomer.” While I expect the Huskies to readily handle ND & TN, regardless of the outcome, UConn’s chance of winning #13 are exceptionally strong.
 
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CL82 said:
Pretty cool that Shea's Vandy squad is among the undefeated.
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Until Sunday when they play a highly motivated LSU team....Also, Shea's OOC was pretty pathetic as well (worse than LSU's) so I expect a loss at home to LSU.
 
Sun Dog said:
It is hard to argue that Mulkey has not been successful with her approach, for her teams and herself. Yet, the piece that has always been missing is a sensitivity as to how Baylor and now LSU could make more of a contribution to the growth of the game. The contrast between Geno and Kim could not be more stark. Maybe the women’s game doesn’t need this consideration anymore? I think it still does and hope Dawn, Vic, etc. follow the Geno model.
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I just don't get that statement. So by only playing other top P4 teams would she grow the game? Have you seen the attendance figures that Kim has generated since arriving at LSU? I think playing many of the mid-majors and getting fans in the seats is just as important, if not more so than playing Stanford, UCLA or USC with only 3200 fans while her games garner 10,000
 
It’s no longer just Kim playing a cupcake schedule anymore. Outside of a handful of teams like TX, SC, etc. from P4 conferences, for several reasons, just about every other team has set up a cupcake buffet as their OOC appetizer.

Reason 1 is obvious. They want to amp up their W/L record so that a .500 record in conference doesn’t relegate them to the NIT.

The 2nd reason has everything to do with costs and revenue sharing. It’s much more cost effective to invite Cupcake U to travel to your home court, pick up their travel expenses and get the benefits of home court merchandise and ticket sales, then traveling halfway across the country, overseas or to the Bahamas to play a top team.
 
I'm not a Kim Mulkey fan, but I can understand her approach after a conversation with one of her former player's parent. She allows her kids free time during the summer. They are not required to be on campus or participate in summer workouts. Most of them use that time to push their brands, etc...The easy schedule allows them to regroup, build confidence and preserve energy with less chance of injuries. She uses the preseason as a recruiting tool. Her kids are all over social media dancing, laughing while blowing teams out by 50 points a night.
 
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DefenseBB said:
I just don't get that statement. So by only playing other top P4 teams would she grow the game? Have you seen the attendance figures that Kim has generated since arriving at LSU? I think playing many of the mid-majors and getting fans in the seats is just as important, if not more so than playing Stanford, UCLA or USC with only 3200 fans while her games garner 10,000
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Until yesterday she had played only one team that may have a chance of getting into the tournament with not winning their conference tournament and that was Duke at #25. Every other team was rated by Massey between #132 to #355. There are only 363 teams in Div 1 basketball. Geno will play only one non conference game with a team ranked higher than #132 and that was Loyola-Chicago at #246 and that was only because they couldn't get anyone rated higher to play a filler game. UConn has played three conference games with teams rated worse than #132, Xavier at #171, DePaul at #205 and Providence at #136. They will play an additional three game against the same three teams, not counting the possibility of playing in the BE Tournament.
 
cancontent said:
I'm trying to figure out how UConn gets only a portion of the thumb that makes up the mitten of Michigan.
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I think the map show the parts of the country that are geographically closest to the school
 
cancontent said:
I'm trying to figure out how UConn gets only a portion of the thumb that makes up the mitten of Michigan.
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HuskyNan said:
I think the map show the parts of the country that are geographically closest to the school
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Yeah. If you notice, the tiny bit of UConn on the Michigan thumb is on a straight line with the rest of UConn's border with Vanderbilt.

Basically, imagine taking a globe and putting in pins on the exact geographic locations of the various undefeated schools. Then imagine measuring out distances from those pins - like with a rigid string tied to the pin and going around in a circle.

The boundaries between schools will happen at places where the distances are roughly equal for both schools. (where the strings extending out from the pins are the same length)
 
MSGRET said:
Until yesterday she had played only one team that may have a chance of getting into the tournament with not winning their conference tournament and that was Duke at #25. Every other team was rated by Massey between #132 to #355. There are only 363 teams in Div 1 basketball. Geno will play only one non conference game with a team ranked higher than #132 and that was Loyola-Chicago at #246 and that was only because they couldn't get anyone rated higher to play a filler game. UConn has played three conference games with teams rated worse than #132, Xavier at #171, DePaul at #205 and Providence at #136. They will play an additional three game against the same three teams, not counting the possibility of playing in the BE Tournament.
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Thanks for the note but I am well aware of the scheduling as you are that the BE is just not a very good conference and is propped up by UConn. Geno, by his willingness to play anyone, anywhere, was able to get the games on TV. When Kim was at Baylor, she did play Tennessee, Stanford and UConn (although not consistently).

As I said, she is from Louisiana and has added Tulane to her schedule with "home and home" games to help those programs get "marquee games" on their slate.

I just don't get your argument either on touting Geno's OOC as drastically helping grow the game. Geno has already created a "must watch" program, where people are rooting for or rooting against UConn and is why Barclay's Center and the HOF games keep including UConn. The attendance at those games is rather paltry compared to what Geno would get by having them at home (same teams but in Hartford (15,000+) or Gampel (10,000+) vs. the 5,000 he garners at those venues. That would mean more money to the UConn coffers.

TV enjoys the money for the UConn games, absolutely but would an LSU-Maryland game or a LSU-Louisville game create the same TV ratings?

The whole point is at 63 years old, Kim is who Kim is, and she has already contributed mightily to growing the game so to quibble how she prefers to prepare her team for conference play or the NCAAT is not worth the effort. After all, she has won 4 titles and really has nothing to prove to us or herself.
 
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BJC said:
I'm not a Kim Mulkey fan, but I can understand her approach after a conversation with one of her former player's parent. She allows her kids free time during the summer. They are not required to be on campus or participate in summer workouts. Most of them use that time to push their brands, etc...The easy schedule allows them to regroup, build confidence and preserve energy with less chance of injuries. She uses the preseason as a recruiting tool. Her kids are all over social media dancing, laughing while blowing teams out by 50 points a night.
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Oh golly gee, I feel so much better about Mulkey now.
 
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