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UMass Announces Intention To Play Football in Fall 2020

Exit 4 said:
Here's how I view it. The NCAA decided the extra payment on off campus housing and whatever else they did to inadvertently provide a little extra benefit violated what are essentially compensation rules. Someday when we get progressive on this subject to finally realize there should be no compensation limits then there never would be a reason to investigate this kind of nonsense. The future should be that universities can provide unlimited subsidy/ benefit w/o registration of any kind with the NCAA including benefits that could be viewed as cash compensation. Third parties like alumni associations, athletic wear and whatever else type of compensation should be registered using a standard form contract. Lastly, only if more than [30%] of the kids in a given sport discipline violate the compensation registration requirements does a team forfeit a season. No more of this season/record forfeits due to 1 or 2 or 3 bad apples.

Will letting the kids get paid hurt the financials of the schools? Absolutely. Is it far more equitable? Yes. Will it drag down outrageous coaching and administrative salaries...yes it should curb growth. Will it narrow the number of participating D1 schools? probably somewhat over time. Will it hurt non revenue sports? Absolutely, and thats sad, but a reality in a world of finite resources. As it stands today the revenue sport kids are propping up the non revenue sport kids and its been that way for three decardes.
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should the athletes be forced to attend classes? If they have to attend them, will they have to pass them?
 
Irishfan said:
should the athletes be forced to attend classes? If they have to attend them, will they have to pass them?
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I would hold on to that requirement. Matriculating through school through the normal process should remain in place. NCAA investigations for class / academic fraud would still be on the table.
 
Irishfan said:
should the athletes be forced to attend classes? If they have to attend them, will they have to pass them?
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What do you mean 'forced' to attend classes?
They are supposed to be student -athletes.
99% of college students are making huge sacrifices to get degrees and we are worried about UMass football players forced to attend classes- what a joke
 
gioff2323 said:
Count me as a lamenter. Not sure when or how playingCFB became nonsensical.
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One game, 1,000 miles away for only $100K then the entire team is on the shelf for two weeks isn't nonsense?
 
Irishfan said:
should the athletes be forced to attend classes? If they have to attend them, will they have to pass them?
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If the answer isn't yes and yes, we aren't talking CFB.
 
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BigTenFan said:
What do you mean 'forced' to attend classes?
They are supposed to be student -athletes.
99% of college students are making huge sacrifices to get degrees and we are worried about UMass football players forced to attend classes- what a joke
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if they are getting paid, they need to decide what their priority is. Is it to get paid for playing football, or to get a degree? If their priority is to get paid for playing football, then yes, they may see attending class to be something that they are being “forced“ to do. Face it, if they are being paid, they are not simply student athletes They are employees of the university being paid to play football.
 
Irishfan said:
should the athletes be forced to attend classes? If they have to attend them, will they have to pass them?
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The NCAA has already ruled on this. Yes, athletes need to attend classes and pass them for all programs outside of North Carolina.
 
Irishfan said:
if they are getting paid, they need to decide what their priority is. Is it to get paid for playing football, or to get a degree? If their priority is to get paid for playing football, then yes, they may see attending class to be something that they are being “forced“ to do. Face it, if they are being paid, they are not simply student athletes They are employees of the university being paid to play football.
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I don't think UMass or UConn football programs are in any position to pay football players. ND is another story. UConn and UMass players are fortunate they are getting a good education. They signed up for it.
 
Exit 4 said:
Ryan Bamford reeling in 100k to hit the road for another drubbing.
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Matt Brown @MattBrownEP 4m
Just read a copy of the UMASS/Marshall game contract. UMASS will get 100K, but will be responsible for their own travel arrangements/costs.

Wonder if any stipulation on Covid testing requirements/frequency? Costing UBuff $30k a week for 4x a week.
 
Zissou said:
The NCAA has already ruled on this. Yes, athletes need to attend classes and pass them for all programs outside of North Carolina.
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I thought this thread had evolved into what were the changes necessary by the NCAA to make college football better. If there are no compensation limits (as suggested) then should there be class attendance requirements.
 
BigTenFan said:
I don't think UMass or UConn football programs are in any position to pay football players. ND is another story. UConn and UMass players are fortunate they are getting a good education. They signed up for it.
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I don’t want to pay players, that’s the idea of the person who first mentioned this Earlier in this thread. I think if the player can get a free four year education, he is being well compensated.
 
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Bongo Fury said:
I’m happy the UMass players get to play. I’ve been told the team has to quarantine for 14 days because they traveled to GA. This is UMass policy which is more stringent than state’s. They likely cannot practice during quarantine. The effort to pull this off is there.
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huskymedic said:
Matt Brown @MattBrownEP 4m
Just read a copy of the UMASS/Marshall game contract. UMASS will get 100K, but will be responsible for their own travel arrangements/costs.

Wonder if any stipulation on Covid testing requirements/frequency? Costing UBuff $30k a week for 4x a week.
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Ryan Bamford @UMassADBamford 15h
I’ll save you the public records request. Liberty is not paying UMass to play the game in 2020 or 2021. Just like the last two games in Amherst when UMass did not pay Liberty. Amazing stuff.
 
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huskymedic said:


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Ryan Bamford @UMassADBamford 15h
I’ll save you the public records request. Liberty is not paying UMass to play the game in 2020 or 2021. Just like the last two games in Amherst when UMass did not pay Liberty. Amazing stuff.
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I dont mind the Bamford snark here. The AD are probably more than a little tired to the "gotcha" coverage, fair or not.
 
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BigTenFan said:
I don't think UMass or UConn football programs are in any position to pay football players. ND is another story. UConn and UMass players are fortunate they are getting a good education. They signed up for it.
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Connecticut, particularly Hartford, has had top tier professional sports franchises in the past, even MLB and NFL, whereas, western Mass has not. It's not as if the market in and around Connecticut is smaller than Nebraska.
 
top tier professional sports? Hartford had The Whalers more than 20 years ago.
We are fortunate to have UConn men's and women's basketball. They provide excellent competition and the women's team is the standard of excellence. Nebraska football draws more fans in one home game than UConn and UMass football draw in an entire year
 
Butch said:
Connecticut, particularly Hartford, has had top tier professional sports franchises in the past, even MLB and NFL, whereas, western Mass has not. It's not as if the market in and around Connecticut is smaller than Nebraska.
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did you get a chance to see the Hartford MLB team or their NFL team play?
 
BigTenFan said:
top tier professional sports? Hartford had The Whalers more than 20 years ago.
We are fortunate to have UConn men's and women's basketball. They provide excellent competition and the women's team is the standard of excellence. Nebraska football draws more fans in one home game than UConn and UMass football draw in an entire year.
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That must be one unbelievable stadium in NE. Wasn't so long ago UCONN was drawing 40,000 per game. For a 6 game home season close to 1/4 million.
 
UConn sold 109,296 total tickets for six Huskies home games, for an average of 18,216 per contest
LIUCHusky said:
That must be one unbelievable stadium in NE. Wasn't so long ago UCONN was drawing 40,000 per game. For a 6 game home season close to 1/4 million.
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From 2016-2019, the total "Announced Attendance" at 29 Cornhusker home games was 2,508,661
 
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The concept of markets goes above the heads of Big Ten and Irish fans. What a surprise. UConn filled the void left by the Whalers. Take note of when we won most of our championships. :rolleyes:

In football, we started out very well, drew very well, but stupid hires by incompetent egos has put that program in a depressed state at the present. Looks like someone forgot we even had a home-and-home series with Michigan not long ago. Didn't someone say it all comes down to coaches?

Blabber on.
 
BigTenFan said:
Yes I did see the Patriots play in Hartford and sat next to John Rowland and Robert Kraft
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Just wondering, because the Hartford Blues stopped playing NFL football there in 1926 and the Hartford Dark Blues stopped playing National League Baseball in 1877.
 
Irishfan said:
Just wondering, because the Hartford Blues stopped playing NFL football there in 1926 and the Hartford Dark Blues stopped playing National League Baseball in 1877.
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Hartford Colonials of the UFL
 
The Four Horsemen played for the Hartford Blues. Somehow, Hartford was able to lure and pay them. Golly gee willigers.

Even if it was 1 or 2 years, the NFL still bothered to expand into Hartford. How about South Bend?
 
Butch said:
The Four Horsemen played for the Hartford Blues. Somehow, Hartford was able to lure and pay them. Golly gee willigers.

Even if it was 1 or 2 years, the NFL still bothered to expand into Hartford. How about South Bend?
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a one game reunion tour for the four horsemen. As for expansion into South Bend, no one would actually expand into South Bend.
 
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