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Fishy said:
The Big East would be interested in Florida State, too. I'll tweet it - that'll make it so.
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I'm not following (not that that's important). Is your joke trying to say that the Big12 is not interested in Florida State, or that Florida State is not interested in the Big12? Based on a lot of information that has floated around in the last four hours involving the chairman of their board and their coach, I would say that the latter is clearly not true.
 
The Athletic Department deficit gives the Football backers some clout. FSU needs tens of millions for improvements. You know some of the backers are going to hold back unless they perform due diligence.

FSU is the Big Revenue Fish in the small pond of the ACC. This is a good set up for approaching the B12 and SEC. It's going to happen.

http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1362072
 
WestHartHusk said:
Where is this rumor being reported?
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There's a dude on the WVU board that posted it. He's throwing out rumors left and right. He has another one that VT contacted the SEC.
 
We should contact the Big 12. I'd rather see those programs at the Rent than the ACC schools. Add L'ville, UConn and Rutgers to Big 12 with F State and maybe ND and it's got alot of upside.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
I'm not following (not that that's important). Is your joke trying to say that the Big12 is not interested in Florida State, or that Florida State is not interested in the Big12? Based on a lot of information that has floated around in the last four hours involving the chairman of their board and their coach, I would say that the latter is clearly not true.
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I hope to the high heavens that Swofford has to stand watch as his conference parades out the front door - I truly do.

But some fits and starts and a temper tantrum from a BOT member doesn't quite move the needle far enough for me.
 
Fishy said:
I hope to the high heavens that Swofford has to stand watch as his conference parades out the front door - I truly do.

But some fits and starts and a temper tantrum from a BOT member doesn't quite move the needle far enough for me.
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Check out that Wetzel story on Yahoo. ACC teams only getting 1 million bump next year, they won't see the full 4 million increase for years because the contract is backloaded. Supposedly the new contract was viewed as anywhere from disappointing to disastrous in ACC circles, and they are worried FSU can't afford to stay.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Do we really want to go to the ACC with that crappy deal? We might want to see what BE can get on the open market first before we make that decision. ACC is screwed for the next 15 years with that deal. 15 years is a long time in this conference realignment thing.
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THANK YOU! what the acc is going to be 5 years from now is not worth us joining. if we can keep ruty/usf/ucf/uh/bsu on board among others, we are in way better shape in the future. screw ppls local rivals dreams.
 
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HuskyfanDan said:
THANK YOU! what the acc is going to be 5 years from now is not worth us joining. if we can keep ruty/usf/ucf/uh/bsu on board among others, we are in way better shape in the future. screw ppls local rivals dreams.
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Yep. BE did the right thing by turning down that horrible ESPN offer. BE needs to get the membership right and go to the open market for a big deal. In this conference realignment game, it is all about money and whoever can offer the most money will do the poaching pure and simple. If BE can add BYU, and Fresno to the mix, I think the TV deal could be pretty nice.
 
Im shocked that adding syracuse and Pitt did not add much if anything to the ACC TV deal. Of course, what does that say about the value of Uconn, Rutty, Louisville etc?

the one thing thsi crappy deal does is almost force the ACC to look into re-opening expansion by begging ND to come. what can they do to appease FSU to stay? nothing? ND perhaps
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Yep. BE did the right thing by turning down that horrible ESPN offer. BE needs to get the membership right and go to the open market for a big deal. In this conference realignment game, it is all about money and whoever can offer the most money will do the poaching pure and simple. If BE can add BYU, and Fresno to the mix, I think the TV deal could be pretty nice.
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Or maybe the networks are dialing back on the money now, shown by the ACC deal. We cannot attract better teams than what the current ACC has, and the BE starts negotiating with ESPN in September. Sorry, anyone who thinks this current BE mongrel is better than the ACC without hypothetically FSU and Clemson, is out of their mind.
 
Expansion for the ACC is dead unless the name is ND. There is no way the ACC will divide the revenues by more teams. They start their meetings today with a lot of turmoil among the AD's. They were kept in the dark on the TV contract and now they feel they got screwed. The TV contract only adds 1M for the next 9 years., contract was backloaded. Now the ACC contract is way below what the other BCS conferences are making.
 
My understanding is that the ACC deal is based on inventory, not specific programs. I am sure there are some qualifications for that, but from what I have read, the ACC deal has the ability to swap teams out. ESPN knew this situation before they agreed to that deal.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
My understanding is that the ACC deal is based on inventory, not specific programs. I am sure there are some qualifications for that, but from what I have read, the ACC deal has the ability to swap teams out. ESPN knew this situation before they agreed to that deal.
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You figured they would have had to known exactly what was going on between the Big12 and the ACC teams. There's no way ESPN would have made a low ball deal, if they hadn't known FSU/Clemson were out the door or else they would have made the deal larger to control all their games.

I was talking to the WVU Insider and he made a good point (wasn't insider info just conversation), but he said:

Big12 adds Ville, FSU, Clemson, and say Miami
ACC adds UConn, Rutgers

Big12 - 14 teams, on ESPN/Fox
ACC - 14 teams all on ESPN

ESPN essentially has control of all the brand name Big East teams for football, can still bid on a split BE Hoops league (with Nova, GTown, etc.), while NBCSports if they want to get into the game only has a split BE Football league headlined by Cincy, USF, UCF, etc. essentially C-USA. to bid on.
 
It depends on the Tier 3 for basketball in the ACC deal. There have been conflicting reports from ACC people.

If the schools control the Tier 3 hoops rights, then UNC and Duke can still make mid-$20's or better per year, which would be enough to keep the ACC losses to no more than 4 teams, and make it an attractive league for UConn. If ALL the Tier 3's are owned by ESPN, I don't see how the ACC is viable, or why UNC and UVa would stay. We would be jumping from one sinking ship to another.
 
AJC88 said:
You routinely post about your dream eastern conference.
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yup and none of them involve a bball league o wake/duke/cuse/pitt/bc. all of my fun posts have us with the floridas, wvus, tosus o the world in nuty things. you need to realize what i'm talking about in the post before. its either sell our sole to a couple regional teams that we at one time considered rivals and never become more than what we are now as a fball program, or go for it(which is why we upgraded to one day have our ball like our bball) and be one o the corners of a new national conf that can be 5th best and in the convo or a bid.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
It depends on the Tier 3 for basketball in the ACC deal. There have been conflicting reports from ACC people.
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The paranoia coming from the helmet heads is similar to that on this board when discussing the BE Conference and the Providence mafia. You won't convince FSU Football that Duke and UNC don't skim the contract and are building a Fort Knox at their expense. Everyone knows Swofford is a Duke and UNC droid planted in the ACC offices to destroy ACC football. How else do you explain SU, BC and Pitt?

Now there's the rumor that no one's ever seen an ACC media contract. The office signs them and keeps them which is further proof that Duke and UNC are getting preferential treatment.
 
TRest said:
Or maybe the networks are dialing back on the money now, shown by the ACC deal. We cannot attract better teams than what the current ACC has, and the BE starts negotiating with ESPN in September. Sorry, anyone who thinks this current BE mongrel is better than the ACC without hypothetically FSU and Clemson, is out of their mind.
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Don't have to be better than the ACC, just get someone to bid more. ACC is negotiating with ESPN only re the new additions. BE will be negotiating with whoever wants in. Interesting what "give me you highest and best offer" gets you when there are legit bidders involved. Look at the Dodgers.
 
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Note that ESPN is positioning itself for Friday Football with the ACC.

The ACC contract may suck because it has to suck. There is little national draw there in football. They can't compete on Saturday except for a handful of 1:00 games.

There's no getting around one fact: a contract with a 6% yearly escalator pales compared to the BiG payouts which are in the $23 mil range per school in year 2012. That's half as much.

Don't be surprised if the BE is structured like the ACC with a starting figure around $7 million and a 6% escalator over 12 years topping out around $14 mil and averaging around $10 mil for UConn.
 
Im supposed to believe that the state of Florida has a public institution enter into media contacts that it hasn't seen.....

Doesn't even two seconds of thought make these rumors so absurd they cant spread?
 
Jax Husky said:
If the ACC deal is bad, I can assure you that the Big East's deal will freakin suck ballz.
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we have a different footprint, possibly more inventory, and we'll see how NBC/fox values it. We might get more than the ACC per fb school, but I bet it won't be a ton more. (my wild guess)

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HuskyfanDan said:
yup and none of them involve a bball league o wake/duke/cuse/pitt/bc. all of my fun posts have us with the floridas, wvus, tosus o the world in nuty things. you need to realize what i'm talking about in the post before. its either sell our sole to a couple regional teams that we at one time considered rivals and never become more than what we are now as a fball program, or go for it(which is why we upgraded to one day have our ball like our bball) and be one o the corners of a new national conf that can be 5th best and in the convo or a bid.
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I guess we just don't agree on the importance of local rivalries. The best games on a schedule, pro or amateur, are rivalry games. I want to be in a conference with teams like Syracuse, Duke, UNC, BC, Rutgers because those are games I am going to care about.
Your suggestion that the NBE can push us to greater heights than a conference based on geography and local rivalries (what the ACC could look like if FSU and Miami or Clemson leave), is laughable. The ACC has national brands with history and academic prowess. Those are schools I want UConn to be associated with. Those are games I will care about. I go every UConn Football game and almost every basketball home game, and the idea of us playing against teams like UCF, USF, Memphis, etc. really don't excite me the way seeing some of those ACC names would.

Now obviously I want us in B1G if that's possible, but it doesn't seem as likely as an eventual move to the ACC.
 
Jax Husky said:
If the ACC deal is bad, I can assure you that the Big East's deal will freakin suck ballz.
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The fact that a post this stupid got 3 "likes" says something about this board. A contract that locks FSU into about $5MM a year less than Iowa State is a bad contract.
 
AJC88 said:
The ACC has national brands with history and academic prowess.
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Not that it invalidates the rest of your argument, but can we all begin to agree that academics has absolutely ZERO to do with conference realignment?!? I mean, even the FSU Chair of the Board went on record to say who gives a $#it about the academics of the other schools in our conference! This is about money; plain and simple. FSU would put themselves in a conference with 11 community colleges if it believed that it would get 50 million per year...
 
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