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i don't have the stats to back it up, but it feels like sanogo has had an incredible season defending the post 1-on-1. this will be a huge test, but everything i have seen is really encouraging.

can't wait to watch.
 
superjohn said:
The problem for Timme is it's him against Sanogo, then it's him against Clingan.
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They have to give him help or Sanogo will eat him alive. Our guys can handle him 1v1. He'll get his points, but we shouldn't need to double him. So that should give us more open looks on the perimeter if guys are moving and the ball is moving.
 
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I’m genuinely interested in what Gonzaga and Houston’s metrics would be if they played in the Big 12, SEC or Big East. These are 2 teams that play in scrub conferences where they just haven’t been tested as much and more often than not those teams can’t string together 6 wins against high quality opponents. We all need to be hoping for a win Saturday and for Houston and Texas to both lose either this round or next round. Not getting ahead of myself, but I’d prefer not to play Texas in Houston…seems like 2009 all over again.
 
Given how intense the Kansas State-MSU game was at the same time it feels like we're almost under the radar. You look around the tournament and every game is close in the last minute.

Except ours.
 
TheChamps990411 said:
It all comes down to two things.
1. Fouls. If Sanogo picks up two quick fouls and DC simply is too green to deal with Timme its going to be a problem. If its Timme who picks up a couple early ones and his supporting cast plays like they did against UCLA we could be looking at a replay of the Arkansas beat down.
2. As mentioned Timme cant do it all by himself. If the supporting cast for the Zags are not hitting shots its a blowout. If you cannot hit 3s against this team you are in trouble.

Should be a great game.
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Completely agree. Sanogo is just very shy of contact (I don’t know why he hasn’t been coached in to going straight up through contact; he could’ve drawn at least two fouls with his shot fakes last night) so that issue won’t be forced in that matchup. Hopefully the guards can drive into him and get calls
 
Best case scenario is go right at Timme and try to get him a couple quick fouls. He’s an excellent offensive player but he should struggle a lot with the UConn bigs defensively and has been prone to foul trouble against bigger players in the past.
 
I've said all year that the NCAA tournament is about matchups. Iona and Saint Mary's were locks for UConn, based on talent and style of play. Connecticut was better than Arkansas, but I was concerned that their style of play could draw you from what you do well, but obviously that wasn't the case.

Tomorrow, I wouldn't call it a lock for UConn, but it's pretty close. Gonzaga doesn't match up well, and the combo of Sanogo and Clingan will screw them up at both ends of the court. They had problems with UCLA's size and speed, and UConn has more of both. Had UCLA been fully healthy, they might've had a shot against you, but not Gonzaga.

I'll root for Xavier and Creighton tonight, and hope for 3 Big East teams in the Final Four. Good luck.
 
Friarsnoop said:
I've said all year that the NCAA tournament is about matchups. Iona and Saint Mary's were locks for UConn, based on talent and style of play. Connecticut was better than Arkansas, but I was concerned that their style of play could draw you from what you do well, but obviously that wasn't the case.

Tomorrow, I wouldn't call it a lock for UConn, but it's pretty close. Gonzaga doesn't match up well, and the combo of Sanogo and Clingan will screw them up at both ends of the court. They had problems with UCLA's size and speed, and UConn has more of both. Had UCLA been fully healthy, they might've had a shot against you, but not Gonzaga.

I'll root for Xavier and Creighton tonight, and hope for 3 Big East teams in the Final Four. Good luck
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I think we match up well, but Gonzaga can still fill it up. It's totally conceivable that we could have an off night from three and they could shoot well. But it's the elite eight, not many teams are going to get matchups they can roll through (except maybe KSU).
 
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connVA said:
I don’t think it’s going to be easy by any stretch, but get 2-3 fouls on Timme and the Zags suddenly have a major problem. I’m assuming Few is going to go with double teaming or some kind of zone variation as a counter, for which we need to make them pay with threes or alley-opps to Jackson all night.
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We are a tough matchup for any team, especially out of conference! Deep and who do you key on-Sanogo, Jordan, Jackson???
 
Friarsnoop said:
I've said all year that the NCAA tournament is about matchups. Iona and Saint Mary's were locks for UConn, based on talent and style of play. Connecticut was better than Arkansas, but I was concerned that their style of play could draw you from what you do well, but obviously that wasn't the case.

Tomorrow, I wouldn't call it a lock for UConn, but it's pretty close. Gonzaga doesn't match up well, and the combo of Sanogo and Clingan will screw them up at both ends of the court. They had problems with UCLA's size and speed, and UConn has more of both. Had UCLA been fully healthy, they might've had a shot against you, but not Gonzaga.

I'll root for Xavier and Creighton tonight, and hope for 3 Big East teams in the Final Four. Good luck.
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We play before them, if we win I will root for their opponents as we seem to just have mojo in the non conference... If we lose though I will root for both of them to win
 
ElGreco said:
We are capable of wearing them down plus our great defense will help.
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Plus, if needed, Bill Murray can add a little mojo power boost during the game…
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Friarsnoop said:
I've said all year that the NCAA tournament is about matchups. Iona and Saint Mary's were locks for UConn, based on talent and style of play. Connecticut was better than Arkansas, but I was concerned that their style of play could draw you from what you do well, but obviously that wasn't the case.

Tomorrow, I wouldn't call it a lock for UConn, but it's pretty close. Gonzaga doesn't match up well, and the combo of Sanogo and Clingan will screw them up at both ends of the court. They had problems with UCLA's size and speed, and UConn has more of both. Had UCLA been fully healthy, they might've had a shot against you, but not Gonzaga.

I'll root for Xavier and Creighton tonight, and hope for 3 Big East teams in the Final Four. Good luck.
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husky429 said:
100 is average. Higher is worse, lower is better. The stat isn't an exact science, but it's decent if you're comparing players on similarly ranked teams.

Generally I think of 90 as exceptionally elite defense. Anything 110 or worse is practically unplayable.
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Do these sort of stats take in consideration the quality of opponent? Gonzaga had good OOC opponents that can't be denied...but the only good team in their conference outside of them is St. Mary's. Do they have the #1 offense because they feasted on less quality?
 
Gutter King said:
Do these sort of stats take in consideration the quality of opponent? Gonzaga had good OOC opponents that can't be denied...but the only good team in their conference outside of them is St. Mary's. Do they have the #1 offense because they feasted on less quality?
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www.basketball-reference.com

Calculating Individual Offensive and Defensive Ratings | Basketball-Reference.com

How to calculate individual offensive and defensive ratings
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This is how it's calculated. One of the big weaknesses of the measures (IMO, not much of a stats guy) is that it doesn't always account for bad vs good team. A player on Georgetown is going to have a worse defensive rating just because the entire team was poorly coached and it made even average defenders look bad.

Gonzaga and UConn have similar enough SOS and are well-coached teams, so I think comparing the stats is more likely to have good results.

@auror and others would probably know more than me. I'm making a lot of assumptions here.
 
I'm concerned about the matchup b/c Timme is kind of a more skilled, quicker footed Kalbrenner who gave Sanogo fits earlier in their careers. Sanogo's strategy likely is to muscle Timme on both ends and that is what is needed to wear him down. So Adama much more likely to get in foul trouble as he'll contest everything and body up on both ends (much greater chance of offensive foul). I think Timme is too crafty and quick for Clingan UNLESS Adama has worn him down physically.

We may need a 3rd player to put a little more wear & tear, a body and give a few more fouls on Timme - is that Karaban or possibly even Andre? Someone off the bench!? I'd throw 15 fouls (3-4 minutes of Samson?!) at Timme given his free throw shooting, run all night and ensure he's exhausted by the final 8 minutes.
 
80shusky said:
I watched the Gonzaga/UCLA game last night and I have to say after watching the ferocious defense UConn and Arkansas played against each other I think either team would be overmatched by UConn. But at this point it isn't really about just plain ability and talent anymore. All the teams have it. It's matchups and execution now. UConn is a bad matchup for Gonzaga. If they execute, it's over 15 minutes in. If they don't UConn can end up in a high 80s to 90s track meet game. Gonzaga doesn't defend they just try to score more points than you.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you, but Gonzaga can hit 3s, Arkansas isn't good at them. That makes a huge difference in how much harder UConn's defense will have to work.
 
Gonzaga has the “magic”. UConn is the freight train. It’s the unstoppable force VS the Immovable object. Sanogo VS Timme. Hurley VS Few. Hawkins VS Strawther. It should be our greatest challenge of the tournament.

One thing to monitor. Gonzaga has not had a good first half yet in this tournament. We know that outside of last night UConn has also struggled in the first 10 minutes. This game may come down to whoever comes out the gate faster. We have to jump on them defensively in the first 10 minutes. We can not afford to play catch up with these guys.

Prediction: I think we attack Timme and force him to guard. He starts out strong and wears down as the game goes along. I think we pull away gradually. Newton has a big game(20+).

1st Half: UConn 42 Gonzaga 37

End Result: UConn 84 Gonzaga 73
 
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AntG168 said:
Gonzaga has the “magic”. UConn is the freight train. It’s the unstoppable force VS the Immovable object. Sanogo VS Timme. Hurley VS Few. Hawkins VS Strawther. It should be our greatest challenge of the tournament.

One thing to monitor. Gonzaga has not had a good first half yet in this tournament. We know that outside of last night UConn has also struggled in the first 10 minutes. This game may come down to whoever comes out the gate faster. We have to jump on them defensively in the first 10 minutes. We can not afford to play catch up with these guys.

Prediction: I think we attack Timme and force him to guard. He starts out strong and wears down as the game goes along. I think we pull away gradually. Newton has a big game(20+).

1st Half: UConn 42 Gonzaga 37

End Result: UConn 84 Gonzaga 73
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I can dig it. Hopefully you are correct. Gonzaga won't be easy. But then again the Elite 8 is not expected to be easy.
 
Few is the master of adjustments. Dan needs to keep on his masterful rolland pull the right strings. West Coast teams play athletic, finesse BB. Gonzaga cannot bang with us for 40 minutes if we play our game. The biggest risk I see is they speed us up to the point where AJ and our guards start making dumb plays. Bear down, pound, hit the boards and break them.
 
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