UConn & UC to ACC? Who is this guy?

[WestHartHusk]

Wasn't sure where to put this. One, of many options, is that Swofford could be posturing for a 4x4 pod to a ACC Championship semifinal. Another would be a single large division where the conference gets to choose the top 2.

ACC wants to change Championship Game Requirements- also 9 games?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...fying-redo

Really interesting...
ACC commissioner John Swofford said Friday he is in favor of conferences having "the autonomy" to determine how teams qualify for their league championship games, and should the NCAA decide this spring to lighten its restrictions, the ACC would consider a different format.

Under the current structure, the NCAA requires that each conference have an equal number of teams in each division, and every team must play each opponent in its own division. Swofford said the NCAA is likely to re-evaluate those rules this spring.

also:
ACC officials will meet later this month and will also continue to discuss whether the league will play eight or nine conference games, along with possible scheduling alignments with other conferences, but Swofford said that nothing would change for the 2014 season.

"Any change to that, if it were to come, would be after the 2014 season," Swofford said.

 

[billybud]

Pods.....

FSU would not have to play Pitt, BC and Cuse every year while not playing GT and UNC.

The ACC has had real problems with divisional alignment...make it pods, with the two best teams playing in a CCG...and you solve a ot of scheduling problems.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Pods.....

FSU would not have to play Pitt, BC and Cuse every year while not playing GT and UNC.

The ACC has had real problems with divisional alignment...make it pods, with the two best teams playing in a CCG...and you solve a ot of scheduling problems.

What would the pods look like?

 

[pj]

What would the pods look like?

Presumably ACC pods would be geographic, then a few horse trades.

A possible starting point: FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson; UNC, NC State, Wake, Duke; VTech, UVa, Louisville, ?? Cincy ??; BC, Pitt, Cuse, ?? UConn ??. Maybe USF or UCF would be taken instead of Cincy for 16. Or maybe ND would come in, displacing Cincy.

Then horse trades: UVa would be in the UNC pod for tradition's sake and Wake would move to the other. If ND entered, they would probably want to be paired with BC and Pitt and maybe Duke or Miami.

 

[Penfield]

FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson

UNC, NC State, Wake, Duke

VTech, UVa, Louisville, Cinci

BC, Pitt, Cuse, UConn

Looks good to me. F ND.

 

[UConn Dan]

They are going to 3 pods of 5 each and UConn will be going to the ACC.

But seriously, this isn't the first time we've heard this from Swofford. He previously made the same points before the GOR and in my opinion I think Swofford was looking out for the ACC by getting the Big 12 the option to have a championship game w/o expanding to 12.

 

[Chuck]

Clearly Swofford wants this so ND can become a football member of the ACC without having to change anything. They can join a division without having to add another school.

ND, Clemson and FSU will be able to play a schedule that benefits them most without regard to divisions.

 

[SubbaBub]

They are going to 3 pods of 5 each and UConn will be going to the ACC.

But seriously, this isn't the first time we've heard this from Swofford. He previously made the same points before the GOR and in my opinion I think Swofford was looking out for the ACC by getting the Big 12 the option to have a championship game w/o expanding to 12.

Close. The likely outcome would be two divisions of 7 with a guarantee of only playing 4 others from your division. It would allow them to create better TV matchups (BC/Pitt/Cuse who?) And, it allows FSU, Clemson to avoid playing so far from home.

The primary reason however is to allow the B12 to hold a championship game without going to 12 teams and divisions which protects the ACC from a raid if it comes to pass that the playoff favors teams that win CCG's

 

[UConn Dan]

FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson

UNC, NC State, Wake, Duke

VTech, UVa, Louisville, Cinci

BC, Pitt, Cuse, UConn

Looks good to me. F ND.

If it's 3 pods of five will look like this:
UConn, Cuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville
FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson, Wake
UNC, NC State, Duke, Virginia, VA Tech

Top 2 ranked teams will play CCG.

Plus 15 teams in football (w/ the pod system) would mean an even 16 teams in all other sports with ND.

 

[WestHartHusk]

If it's 3 pods of five will look like this:
UConn, Cuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville
FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson, Wake
UNC, NC State, Duke, Virginia, VA Tech

Top 2 ranked teams will play CCG.

Plus 15 teams in football (w/ the pod system) would mean an even 16 teams in all other sports with ND.

It is really hard to argue against those pods.

 

[UConn Dan]

Close. The likely outcome would be two divisions of 7 with a guarantee of only playing 4 others from your division. It would allow them to create better TV matchups (BC/Pitt/Cuse who?) And, it allows FSU, Clemson to avoid playing so far from home.

The primary reason however is to allow the B12 to hold a championship game without going to 12 teams and divisions which protects the ACC from a raid if it comes to pass that the playoff favors teams that win CCG's

In that case, i don't think they go to divisions at all. Just one division and the two TOP ranked teams play CCG .

 

[Fishy]

Explaining to my daughter that there is no Santa will be far easier than getting this board to give up its ACC fantasies.

 

[UConn Dan]

Explaining to my daughter that there is no Santa will be far easier than getting this board to give up its ACC fantasies.

But, but... the Fat White Guy said so!

 

[WestHartHusk]

Explaining to my daughter that there is no Santa will be far easier than getting this board to give up its ACC fantasies.

Why do I feel like if I were on my death-bed you would show-up and tell me there is only fire and brimstone on the other side right before I croaked.

 

[btstimpy]

Presumably ACC pods would be geographic, then a few horse trades.

A possible starting point: FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson; UNC, NC State, Wake, Duke; VTech, UVa, Louisville, ?? Cincy ??; BC, Pitt, Cuse, ?? UConn ??. Maybe USF or UCF would be taken instead of Cincy for 16. Or maybe ND would come in, displacing Cincy.

Then horse trades: UVa would be in the UNC pod for tradition's sake and Wake would move to the other. If ND entered, they would probably want to be paired with BC and Pitt and maybe Duke or Miami.

FSU, GT, Clemson, Louisville

ND, UVA, VT, Pitt

Miami, UConn, BC, Syracuse

Wake, UNC, NC State, Duke

The cross division rivals are in vertical orders (i.e. FSU,ND, Miami, Waks) (i.e. GT, UVA, UConn, UNC). If ND isn't coming, make a run at WVU for the UVA division instead of ND. They are already rivals with Pitt and VT, and they do not fit the Big XII. We'll just have to hold our nose.

You go to a 9 game schedule playing the three in your division, 4 in another division, and the other 2 designated rivals each year. If only 8 games then you rotate the extra designated rivals.

Some obstacles are 1) what happens with ND, 2) what happens with FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville who have annual non-conference SEC rivals.

 

[jostar1]

FSU, GT, Clemson, Louisville

ND, UVA, VT, Pitt

Miami, UConn, BC, Syracuse

Wake, UNC, NC State, Duke

The cross division rivals are in vertical orders (i.e. FSU,ND, Miami, Waks) (i.e. GT, UVA, UConn, UNC). If ND isn't coming, make a run at WVU for the UVA division instead of ND. They are already rivals with Pitt and VT, and they do not fit the Big XII. We'll just have to hold our nose.

You go to a 9 game schedule playing the three in your division, 4 in another division, and the other 2 designated rivals each year. If only 8 games then you rotate the extra designated rivals.

Some obstacles are 1) what happens with ND, 2) what happens with FSU, GT, Clemson, and Louisville who have annual non-conference SEC rivals.

But....UConn isn't in the ACC.

 

[Durks07]

Why do I feel like if I were on my death-bed you would show-up and tell me there is only fire and brimstone on the other side right before I croaked.

I was raised Catholic. That is exactly what my deathbed experience is going to be like.

 

[Penfield]

But....UConn isn't in the ACC.

This board is for imaginations only

 

[WestHartHusk]

I was raised Catholic. That is exactly what my deathbed experience is going to be like.

If you were raised Catholic and the first time you heard you were going to hell was your deathbed then you have lived a blessed life.

 

[CL82]

If you were raised Catholic and the first time you heard you were going to hell was your deathbed then you have lived a blessed life.

Not so much. That's bigger for other Christians. It's the ages old faith vs. works dichotomy.

 

[RegisteredUconn]

I need some Pepto Bismol. All those example ACC pods containing UConn have made me nauseous.

 

[RMoore1999]

I need some Pepto Bismol. All those example ACC pods containing UConn have made me nauseous.

Hold your nose and suck it up. After all, vomit tastes better than diarrhea, and that's what the AAC offers. Besides, we'll likely need a few more years for AAU, after which, we can leave for B1Ger pastures together with UVA, GTech or Florida Gulf Coast for all I care.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

The ACC wants to make it's own division rules so they can:

a) Add ND and have a division of 8 and one of 7.
b) Add ND and have 3 pods of 5.

Unless the ACC is raided in the distance future, I don't see any way we end up in this conference.

Basically our only hope is we start to kick ass in football, continue to kick ass in basketball, get AAU and then it has to be shown Rutgers has traction in NYC, but needs a little more to get over the hump. In addition to that, we need a suitable partner for 16 that is willing to go.

It really doesnt look good, but what else can we do?

 

[pj]

The ACC wants to make it's own division rules so they can:

a) Add ND and have a division of 8 and one of 7.
b) Add ND and have 3 pods of 5.

Unless the ACC is raided in the distance future, I don't see any way we end up in this conference.

Basically our only hope is we start to kick ass in football, continue to kick ass in basketball, get AAU and then it has to be shown Rutgers has traction in NYC, but needs a little more to get over the hump. In addition to that, we need a suitable partner for 16 that is willing to go.

It really doesnt look good, but what else can we do?

(1) If the ACC can go with 15, so can the B1G. The ACC getting this rule change works to UConn's benefit by opening up the 15-team conference possibility. We would no longer need a partner to go to either league.

(2) If we start to kick ass in football, continue to kick ass in basketball, and get AAU, why do we need Rutgers to get traction in NYC? UConn getting traction in NYC would help us a lot more.

 

[SAMCRO]

I'm guessing the prior poster meant that if RU shows there is some traction in NYC, the B1G may want to double down and take UConn to add to that (or the ACC comes calling on UConn to get a piece of NYC). If RU shows zero traction in moving the needle in NYC (which is more probable, same if it was us, and same w/ SU) , the B1G and/or ACC could realize its a lost cause so why waste their time and $ chasing the dream of NYC being even marginally a college sports town where they can capitalize on increased cable subscription fees

IMO, our biggest hope is there comes the realization that 16 or higher is the magic # for conferences from a scheduling and optimal payout stand point. That happens, were in good shape. That doesn't happen, then we are stuck and we're what rhymes with 'stucked'