UCONN to No.1 ?

[Tonyc]

It's the 'overall' body of work instead of a bad loss or good win in a single game. That makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that UCONN played a strong out of conference schedule. It should be no doubt the No.1 seeds South Carolina, UCONN, UCLA for sure and Texas or USC (the only 2 in question) in no particular order, after that.

I like your picks. Defense as well as having good guard play win championships. SC and UConn have that right now. With the time off between now and selection Sunday teams will have time to regroup and heal. We will see. Paige was focused this weekend. She looked and played like she did when she won NPOY. SC looked fierce. UConns execution and fine tuned passing ate up their opponents while SC's athleticism ran circles around their opponents. Both teams have multiple scorers and both teams have depth. UConn has Paige and two other go to scorers. Both have really good defenses. These are my two top teams as of yesterday's games. What is going to be needed is a balanced scoring attack with leadership at the guard position. At this stage of the season top teams can slow down a team which has has one dimensional scoring threat. You saw what SC did to Texas and UCLA did to USC. Pressure defense will hurt teams that do not have good ball handlers. The brackets will be what they are. Your going to have to score and your going to have to keep your opponent from scoring. The biggest difference with UConn is now they appear to be healthy. Their early season losses might have been different if they were healthy. Still UConn has one loss since Jan 1.

 

[robert]

UConn as the highest two seed will face the weakest #1 which are Texas and USC. These are very favorable matchups for UConn.

I would love to be in Texas or Southern California bracket , but the selection committee will take into consideration the S curve formula too , just because we are the strongest no. 2 we will be in the bracket of the weakest no. 1, that’s not always the case .

 

[robert]

Interesting to see how this thread immediately jumped off the rails. The OP asked a pretty simple question. With #1 TX & #2 USC both losing yesterday would #3 UConn move up to #1 in the POLLS? Subsequently, just about every response misinterpreted that question to be about tournament seeding.

To redirect this discussion back to the OP’s initial question, I don’t know if either the AP or Coaches poll are updated again before the tournament, but assuming that they are, there is certainly a possibility that UConn would rise to #1.

As for the tournament seeding decisions, we can all argue about them in a week when the committee releases the brackets. Just think how much fun that will be if UConn is #1 in the polls but draws a #2 seed in the Big Dance…

It’s tough for UConn to be the number 1seed overall or the best scenario will be number 1 seed in any of the region . My wild guess is UCLA will be the top seed followed by Southern California , Texas and South Carolina…definitely Notre Dame will not be near as a number 1 in any of the region. Duke will be a surprise number 2 and TCU .LSU and NCST probably will be in number 3 .

 

[DEpup]

I'm just not sure we'd ever be put ahead of the SEC and Big10 champions in this time of super conferences unless we are undefeated and especially not with that annoying TN loss.

 

[Plebe]

I'm just not sure we'd ever be put ahead of the SEC and Big10 champions in this time of super conferences unless we are undefeated and especially not with that annoying TN loss.

Can't really overgeneralize like that. Every season is unique; it comes down to a comparison of resumes unique to that season. This year it just so happened that those two conferences each had two really, really strong teams. A month ago Notre Dame looked well ahead of us, but they faltered in the last 3 weeks and we're now ahead of them.

If we'd gone 2-1 vs. SC, USC and ND and avoided the loss to Tennessee we would have a really strong case for overall #1. Instead we went 1-2 and lost to Tennessee so #5 is more than appropriate IMO.

 

[dtbtbtb]

IMO if we would have won at TN, we would have been a 1 seed for sure. As things stand, the top number 2 is fair. Hope like others to be the number 2 with TX as the 1 as they seem to be the weakest.

 

[JBK]

UConn lost the head to head to USC, and Texas has a better Quad 1 record than UConn. Huskies are solid at the overall #5 seed

How can the rank SC over us ? We destroyed them in their own Gym and have the same overall record

 

[mrmojack]

I think the loss to Tennessee eliminated us as a #1 seed. Everyone has been beating
Tennesse lately.

 

[bballnut90]

How can the rank SC over us ? We destroyed them in their own Gym and have the same overall record

They have a much better resume of wins, have only lost to top 5 teams and just clobbered the #1 team yesterday.

 

[oldude]

Again, the OP is about polls, not seedings, and the new AP poll has UCLA at #1 (19 1st place votes), SC at 2 (9 1st place votes) and UConn remains at 3, but picks up 7 1st place votes, followed by USC & TX. ND falls all the way to #8. TCU at #6 & Duke at #7.

 

[Plebe]

How can the rank SC over us ? We destroyed them in their own Gym and have the same overall record

Raw overall W-L record is one of the more irrelevant pieces of data. South Dakota State only has 3 losses and they're not exactly knocking on the door of a 1 seed.

 

[HuskyNan]

Raw overall W-L record is one of the more irrelevant pieces of data. South Dakota State only has 3 losses and they're not exactly knocking on the door of a 1 seed.

Grand Canyon University is 27-2. NET is 61

Quad 1: 0-1
Quad 2: 1-1
Quad 3: 2-0
Quad 4: 24-0

 

[Plebe]

Grand Canyon University is 27-2. NET is 61

Quad 1: 0-1
Quad 2: 1-1
Quad 3: 2-0
Quad 4: 24-0

Great season for Grand Canyon! Best kept secret in basketball @azfan ?

 

[DefenseBB]

Great season for Grand Canyon! Best kept secret in basketball @azfan ?

I think @azfan might be out on a “bender” celebrating the fact ASU actually did something he wanted…. Hopefully he returns soon but in the meanwhile, I am happy for him.

 

[Swish It 88]

Um….UConn has not played UCLA this season. I think you mean USC…

No. He meant UCLA. He is a SC fan.

 

[azfan]

Great season for Grand Canyon! Best kept secret in basketball @azfan ?

No secret in Arizona. Molly Miller has a deep bench, senior leadership and will win 30 games this year with a very talented team.
I'll be very surprised if they stumble in the tournament and I'm looking forward to Wednesday's game.

 

[JBK]

They have a much better resume of wins, have only lost to top 5 teams and just clobbered the #1 team yesterday.

Do not agree We did not beat them on a buzzer beater.
We embarrassed them by 30 on our only head to head with a full roster - I understand they play a tougher schedule - if we did not have a chance to play them.
Oh well.
The committee has their formula and if we continue this defense I love our chances

 

[JBK]

Raw overall W-L record is one of the more irrelevant pieces of data. South Dakota State only has 3 losses and they're not exactly knocking on the door of a 1 seed.

Exactly. That’s why head to head with the top seeds matter.

 

[Plebe]

Exactly. That’s why head to head with the top seeds matter.

No, sorry, you’re trying to cherry pick one game at the expense of the rest of the season. It simply doesn’t work that way. The other games matter too. By your logic Notre Dame would be ahead of us.

 

[Bald Husky]

Although we will probably stay a #2 seed, it is encouraging that the media has given us 7 first place votes in the latest AP poll. No matter where we end up, at least 7 people believe in us. Go Huskies.

 

[my2cents]

What's the point of NET if it's ignored? We are number 1 in the NET.
We are easily better than Texas and the seeding should reflect that.

 

[Plebe]

What's the point of NET if it's ignored? We are number 1 in the NET.
We are easily better than Texas and the seeding should reflect that.

If in fact we are “easily better” than Texas, then it's curious we found a way to lose to Tennessee, a team that's clearly not as good as Texas. Texas played numerous teams of roughly that level of quality, including Tennessee itself, and lost to none of them.

The NCAA has explained repeatedly that the NET is but one of many factors considered. They could well be asking themselves, “What's the point of us providing these explanations if they're ignored?”

 

[my2cents]

If in fact we are “easily better” than Texas, then it's curious we found a way to lose to Tennessee, a team that's clearly not as good as Texas. Texas played numerous teams of roughly that level of quality, including Tennessee itself, and lost to none of them.

The NCAA has explained repeatedly that the NET is but one of many factors considered. They could well be asking themselves, “What's the point of us providing these explanations if they're ignored?”

So there's no point to mathematically figuring out who is better? How about another point, UConn has made the Final Four 15 out of the last 16 years. It should be a given that we are one of the 4 best teams in the country EVERY YEAR.

 

[DefenseBB]

So there's no point to mathematically figuring out who is better? How about another point, UConn has made the Final Four 15 out of the last 16 years. It should be a given that we are one of the 4 best teams in the country EVERY YEAR.

So, you seem willing to ignore the reasoning and protocol that was explained to you and has been discussed ad-nauseam on this forum.

The NET was NEVER designed as an “all encompassing” statistic to be the definitive stat. If you don’t want to accept that fact, fine but understand most of us have spent time learning the protocol and others like learning the process as well. You seem bent on living in denial and using irrelevant facts like history from 1865 as a reasoning tool to justify your thinking. What UConn historically has done has NO BEARING on this seeding. Please try to read/listen, spend time to understand the process and evolve.

 

[Plebe]

So there's no point to mathematically figuring out who is better? How about another point, UConn has made the Final Four 15 out of the last 16 years. It should be a given that we are one of the 4 best teams in the country EVERY YEAR.

It does make for a nice talking point, but I don't think there's a “15 out of 16” exemption clause to the regular seeding criteria.

Massey, for what it's worth, also operates as a mathematical model and has Texas ahead of us.

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