UConn to Big XII Imminent?

[CONN78SEJ]

Perception matters. Does one or two games make a difference? Probably not. The issue for UConn over that past few years is perception. The debate about blue blood status, lack of consistency year in and year out, are issues that have been mentioned in "grading" UConn and in conference realignment. So your statement may indeed ring true.

Like the perception of many many referees not liking or treating UConn like the great program it is, that perception is not just a perception, it’s real. Hurley has to ride this period in his, let’s hope, long tenure at UConn. Geno, I’m sure has some advice for him, about being tossed many many many times during his early years, with Chris Daily having to restrain him from going after many refs who had it in for him.

 

[Chin Diesel]

If you play at least 1 decent team before the Maui tournament that allows your players to get first-hand experience at playing against more size, speed and physicality. It prepares you better for the Maui tourney so you don't look like a staggering drunk.

Yeah, but for UConn Maui is a means to the end. And it ends the first week of April. Winning Maui is nice for perception and hype in November.

Quick questions. Who won Maui last year? Who won the 2024 championship?
Who won Maui in 2022? Who won the 2023 championship?

 

[John]

Yeah, but for UConn Maui is a means to the end. And it ends the first week of April. Winning Maui is nice for perception and hype in November.

Quick questions. Who won Maui last year? Who won the 2024 championship?
Who won Maui in 2022? Who won the 2023 championship?

Quick question: how many games would we have lost in Maui in 2022? How many would we have lost in Maui last year?

 

[alphasigko]

This was personally the worst thing about the Colorado loss to me. I hope it doesn't hurt our B12 bid

What Big12 bid?

 

[John]

What Big12 bid?

The one that gets us into a real conference.

 

[Viet Vet]

Like the perception of many many referees not liking or treating UConn like the great program it is, that perception is not just a perception, it’s real. Hurley has to ride this period in his, let’s hope, long tenure at UConn. Geno, I’m sure has some advice for him, about being tossed many many many times during his early years, with Chris Daily having to restrain him from going after many refs who had it in for him.

Why should referees treat UConn “like the great program it is”? Their job is to administer the game according to the rules, not according to any team’s history, recent performance or reputation.

 

[Revrat]

Perception matters. Does one or two games make a difference? Probably not. The issue for UConn over that past few years is perception. The debate about blue blood status, lack of consistency year in and year out, are issues that have been mentioned in "grading" UConn and in conference realignment. So your statement may indeed ring true.

Lol yes all multi million dollar league decisions are based on the results of 1 or 2 losses in a sport. You guys are freaking nuts. It literally has nothing to do with results for us at this point. Football has shown it's getting competitive and basketball aint going anywhere. Its about fans in seats and TV eyes and media worth. Now, obviously winning helps with both, but in the long run. It doesn't matter what basketball does this year. In no way, shape, or form does not winning three national championships in a row tarnish anything, my god. Every team is going to suffer a set back sending so many players to the pros. They also know we have a top recruiting class in the country coming in. We will be fine no matter what happens this year. Its not like we are going to fall off the edge of a cliff like some of the hot football commodities have (USF, UCF) Remember when they were all the rage? UConn has proven over and over that we can support big time athletics. And we we have a decent conference we can certainly hang with the best of alll the mediocre football programs out there already in the big time.

 

[CL82]

Why should referees treat UConn “like the great program it is”? Their job is to administer the game according to the rules, not according to any team’s history, recent performance or reputation.

Nor should they change the way they officiate because they don't particularly like a team's coach.

 

[cellocgg]

Why should referees treat UConn “like the great program it is”? Their job is to administer the game according to the rules, not according to any team’s history, recent performance or reputation.

I think what Hurley meant is that you'd think the refs would do a better job for a game with such a highly regarded program

I don't think he obviously thinks UConn should be treated differently because of the chips

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Quick question: how many games would we have lost in Maui in 2022? How many would we have lost in Maui last year?

If you expected this year's team to be as good as last year's I could have told you last May that it wasn't going to happen. If you expected this year's team to be as good as the team from two years ago, I could have told you this past summer that it could happen but it would take time.

We don't need to be an historically dominant team (as we were last year) to win it all and we don't need to be a team that when everything's clicking can steamroll anyone (as we were two years ago) to win it all.

We're going to need to accept that there's no guarantee of greatness with this season's team so all we can do is see what unfolds.

 

[John]

Definitely agree, and I think you misunderstood my post

 

[Ha Who]

BWhy should referees treat UConn “like the great program it is”? Their job is to administer the game according to the rules, not according to any team’s history, recent performance or reputation.

 

[JohnFSilver]

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Why should referees treat UConn “like the great program it is”? Their job is to administer the game according to the rules, not according to any team’s history, recent performance or reputation.

there is an anti northeast bias in college sports. I don't know why it exists, but I think some referees in football have a subconscious bias.

I also think refs hate Hurley.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Lol yes all multi million dollar league decisions are based on the results of 1 or 2 losses in a sport. You guys are freaking nuts. It literally has nothing to do with results for us at this point. Football has shown it's getting competitive and basketball aint going anywhere. Its about fans in seats and TV eyes and media worth. Now, obviously winning helps with both, but in the long run. It doesn't matter what basketball does this year. In no way, shape, or form does not winning three national championships in a row tarnish anything, my god. Every team is going to suffer a set back sending so many players to the pros. They also know we have a top recruiting class in the country coming in. We will be fine no matter what happens this year. Its not like we are going to fall off the edge of a cliff like some of the hot football commodities have (USF, UCF) Remember when they were all the rage? UConn has proven over and over that we can support big time athletics. And we we have a decent conference we can certainly hang with the best of alll the mediocre football programs out there already in the big time.

Football program operates like that week to week with some people. Its annoying. For the last decade, every game is measured against whether it is P5 worthy. It is insane standard. Every loss is worst loss in school
History and proof they don't belong.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

Why should referees treat UConn “like the great program it is”? Their job is to administer the game according to the rules, not according to any team’s history, recent performance or reputation.

Their job is to administer the game according to the rules fairly, something that I think was lacking in the game.

 

[Patman]

I really don't think the cupcake schedule is the problem...if we played better teams in the first four...it just means we would have lost earlier and more quickly learned that our bigs consistently get in foul trouble, we struggle when karaban is 1-8 from the field, and our smaller backcourt cannot guard or rebound like the last two years

I'm not sure there would be an advantage to know that earlier since I don't think there any easy solutions that could have been in place for Maui

We know it now and will strive to 'solve' it for March

Fair enough. Basketball is by far my weakest sport

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The Big 12 is a pretty bad hoops league this season.

 

[Husky92]

The Big 12 is a pretty bad hoops league this season.

So…you’re saying we’d fit right in?!?

 

[B1GEast]

The university should have made it's push after the season instead of before the football season.

They were probably trying to take advantage of the back to back titles, but that first blowout loss the Maryland really looked bad.

An 8-4 season looks much better. Timing is everything. I'm curious to see how the outlook is with a solid year in football.

 

[John]

The Big 12 is a pretty bad hoops league this season.

yeah, they're certainly not a powerhouse like the Big East*

* satire

 

[ZooCougar]

The Big 12 is a pretty bad hoops league this season.

And in football they are basically what the Big East was.

I can’t see anyone in the ACC jumping ship to that.

 

[UConnJim]

And in football they are basically what the Big East was.

I can’t see anyone in the ACC jumping ship to that.

What you are missing is that the Big 12 football TV ratings are blowing away the ACC and that will have an impact when the next media contracts are negotiated. And, the ACC is more likely to lose their top schools (Clemson, FSU, North Carolina) than the Big 12. Here are the top 3 rated games for each conference over the past 3 weeks:

Week 13:
Big 12: 6.22 million, 1.91 million, 1.31 million total = 9.44 million
ACC: 0.985 million, 0.897 million, 0.262 million total = 2.14 million

Week 12:
Big 12: 4.00 million, 1.75 million, 1.00 million total = 6.75 million
ACC: 1.85 million, 0.957 million, 0.298 million total = 3.105 million

Week 11:
Big 12: 3.68 million, 2.07 million, 0.378 million total = 6.128 million
ACC: 3.46 million, 1.44 million, no 3rd game rated total = 4.90 million

And, according to the Sagarins, the Big 12 is the #2 football conference and the ACC is #4.

 

[ZooCougar]

What you are missing is that the Big 12 football TV ratings are blowing away the ACC and that will have an impact when the next media contracts are negotiated. And, the ACC is more likely to lose their top schools (Clemson, FSU, North Carolina) than the Big 12. Here are the top 3 rated games for each conference over the past 3 weeks:

Week 13:
Big 12: 6.22 million, 1.91 million, 1.31 million total = 9.44 million
ACC: 0.985 million, 0.897 million, 0.262 million total = 2.14 million

Week 12:
Big 12: 4.00 million, 1.75 million, 1.00 million total = 6.75 million
ACC: 1.85 million, 0.957 million, 0.298 million total = 3.105 million

Week 11:
Big 12: 3.68 million, 2.07 million, 0.378 million total = 6.128 million
ACC: 3.46 million, 1.44 million, no 3rd game rated total = 4.90 million

And, according to the Sagarins, the Big 12 is the #2 football conference and the ACC is #4.

I’m so sure those tv ratings will weigh heavily in the eyes of the playoff committee

 

[UConnJim]

I’m so sure those tv ratings will weigh heavily in the eyes of the playoff committee

But they heavily weigh on TV network executives and future TV contracts.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

And, according to the Sagarins, the Big 12 is the #2 football conference and the ACC is #4.

I'm sorry, the B12 is ahead of either the B1G or SEC? That seems... doubtful