UConn to Big XII Imminent?

[gioff2323]

Confused - which 3 loss team is in top 4 ?

 

[Kolumbo]

Confused - which 3 loss team is in top 4 ?

good question. I'm thinking he's looking at Clemson which is in the ACC championship game with 3 losses. If Clemson wins, that might be enough to leapfrog Boise State. So the 4th bye spot would be between Clemson and the winner of Arizona State-Iowa State.

 

[How Sway?!]

good question. I'm thinking he's looking at Clemson which is in the ACC championship game with 3 losses. If Clemson wins, that might be enough to leapfrog Boise State. So the 4th bye spot would be between Clemson and the winner of Arizona State-Iowa State.

If Clemson and Boise both win, there's no way Clemson leapfrogs Boise.

 

[Kolumbo]

If Clemson and Boise both win, there's no way Clemson leapfrogs Boise.

You are looking at one scenario although it would be interesting if they both win
Clemson could win and Boise could lose. What say you then
I think Clemson would most certainly leapfrog Boise St. Then it would come down to where Arizona St or Iowa St falls

 

[How Sway?!]

You are looking at one scenario although it would be interesting if they both win
Clemson could win and Boise could lose. What say you then
I think Clemson would most certainly leapfrog Boise St. Then it would come down to where Arizona St or Iowa St falls

Not sure what point you are trying to make

If Boise loses then it makes the whole discussion moot since they wouldn't be a conference champion and both the B12 and ACC would get the bye.

 

[Kolumbo]

Not sure what point you are trying to make

If Boise loses then it makes the whole discussion moot since they wouldn't be a conference champion and both the B12 and ACC would get the bye.

Yeah, I'm not sure what Yormark is thinking, post #1,975. Maybe he thinks that Clemson would leapfrog either Boise State if they both win or Clemson would leapfrog the Arizona St/Iowa St winner. For some reason he must feel that the Big 12 is being shunned somehow. Maybe a whole lot of banter about nothing. I think in the end, he is not happy with Boise St being ranked so high leaving one of the P4 out. He focused on strength of schedule.

OK, I found it. I guess it's a measuring contest between the ACC, Big XII and G5 Boise State.

Big 12 commissioner Yormark: ‘No way should a Group of 5 champion be ranked above our champion’​

"“The (selection) committee continues to show time and time again that they are paying attention to logos versus resumes,” said Yormark. “Strength of schedule should matter and wins against Power 4 opponents should matter.”"

 

[uconnyankee]

Yeah, I'm not sure what Yormark is thinking, post #1,975. Maybe he thinks that Clemson would leapfrog either Boise State if they both win or Clemson would leapfrog the Arizona St/Iowa St winner. For some reason he must feel that the Big 12 is being shunned somehow. Maybe a whole lot of banter about nothing. I think in the end, he is not happy with Boise St being ranked so high leaving one of the P4 out. He focused on strength of schedule.

OK, I found it. I guess it's a measuring contest between the ACC, Big XII and G5 Boise State.

Big 12 commissioner Yormark: ‘No way should a Group of 5 champion be ranked above our champion’​

"“The (selection) committee continues to show time and time again that they are paying attention to logos versus resumes,” said Yormark. “Strength of schedule should matter and wins against Power 4 opponents should matter.”"

This is BY being BY and pumping up his conference and trying to create that illusion of P4 and everyone else separation.
The Big 12 doesn’t have an elite team this year and he’s doing exactly what he’s saying committee shouldn’t: judge a team based on logo. In this case, the P4 logo.

FSU is bad. Clemson has 3 losses. SMU was a G5 last year. We’re suddenly supposed to think the ACC with their P4 logo is sitting right there with the BIG and SEC??? Same with Big 12. There is certainly some separation, but not enough to simply discredit a very solid Boise state team for not being in Big 12 or ACC. Both those conferences have some weak teams to boost stats and records.

 

[CJasmer]

This is BY being BY and pumping up his conference and trying to create that illusion of P4 and everyone else separation.
The Big 12 doesn’t have an elite team this year and he’s doing exactly what he’s saying committee shouldn’t: judge a team based on logo. In this case, the P4 logo.

FSU is bad. Clemson has 3 losses. SMU was a G5 last year. We’re suddenly supposed to think the ACC with their P4 logo is sitting right there with the BIG and SEC??? Same with Big 12. There is certainly some separation, but not enough to simply discredit a very solid Boise state team for not being in Big 12 or ACC. Both those conferences have some weak teams to boost stats and records.

I think SOS should be considered. If Boise state loses to UNLV they should not get into the CFP. The same for the loser of ACC and Big 12 championship games.

 

[Stinger92860]

The same for the loser of ACC and Big 12 championship games.

That will never happen. They will increase the CFP to 32 teams before that ever happened. Screw the bowls and make more money.

 

[ZooCougar]

This is BY being BY and pumping up his conference and trying to create that illusion of P4 and everyone else separation.
The Big 12 doesn’t have an elite team this year and he’s doing exactly what he’s saying committee shouldn’t: judge a team based on logo. In this case, the P4 logo.

FSU is bad. Clemson has 3 losses. SMU was a G5 last year. We’re suddenly supposed to think the ACC with their P4 logo is sitting right there with the BIG and SEC??? Same with Big 12. There is certainly some separation, but not enough to simply discredit a very solid Boise state team for not being in Big 12 or ACC. Both those conferences have some weak teams to boost stats and records.

The Big 12 is pretty damn weak in football. Overall they are stronger than the MWC. But they don’t have anyone that is better than Boise imo.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

The Big 12 is pretty damn weak in football. Overall they are stronger than the MWC. But they don’t have anyone that is better than Boise imo.

Their weakness in football could hurt UConn's chances to get into the conference, given that Memphis and even Tulane are much better than we are -- at least for now.

 

[ZooCougar]

Their weakness in football could hurt UConn's chances to get into the conference, given that Memphis and even Tulane are much better than we are -- at least for now.

That's what I have been alluding too.

 

[noeynox]

Their weakness in football could hurt UConn's chances to get into the conference, given that Memphis and even Tulane are much better than we are -- at least for now.

Except you've heard Yormark talk about brand value and large fan bases as it relates to UConn. Those schools are not like us. Now if they take a no money like SMU we are hit.

 

[Exit 4]

Except you've heard Yormark talk about brand value and large fan bases as it relates to UConn. Those schools are not like us. Now if they take a no money like SMU we are hit.

Its not the best start for the B12 and the new CFP, but I don't think the results of season 1 of the new format are going to rock UConn off its possible path to the B12. Yes the B12 needs football, but it also needs markets and more east coast teams and we deliver on both. Lets see what happens this winter.

 

[UConnJim]

According to Sagarin, the Big 12 is ranked the second best football conference behind the SEC, slightly ahead of the Big 10, and comfortably ahead of the ACC. Their problem is that they don't have a dominant team this year, but they have a number of very good teams. The Big 12 has 10/16 schools in the top 40 and the ACC has 5/17 in the top 40. Big 10 has 9/18 in the top 40.

 

[ZooCougar]

According to Sagarin, the Big 12 is ranked the second best football conference behind the SEC, slightly ahead of the Big 10, and comfortably ahead of the ACC. Their problem is that they don't have a dominant team this year, but they have a number of very good teams. The Big 12 has 10/16 schools in the top 40 and the ACC has 5/17 in the top 40. Big 10 has 9/18 in the top 40.

People still look at Sagarin?

All that matters is playoff slots. They don’t have any marquee programs. It’s a cornfield of mid.

 

[Kolumbo]

Their weakness in football could hurt UConn's chances to get into the conference, given that Memphis and even Tulane are much better than we are -- at least for now.

couterpoint. We could perhaps be a favorable win opportunity in the short term for Big XII top teams. If it's all about wins and brands, we got your brand right here. Unless they are scared of our football already.

I think Brett is a little scared of BY. Boise wins, they get a bye. Boise loses. No CFP.